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shakermaker 06-08-2008 11:08

displeased.
 
I've been sat in this morning waiting for a delivery of books. Only, I've been given a little red card to read instead.

Chapter one:
"Sorry, you were out" it read.
"No I bloody wasn't" I said.
"Time: 11-15" it followed.
"Lying gits! If I heard this wafer of a thing coming through the letterbox I think I would've heard a knock" I said, rather vexed now.

Realising that I was now bellowing at a piece of card, I came on here to take out a little frustration. Equally pointless I know, but no one from Royal Mail is within punching distance.

I accept that it's a bit mirky and wet outside, and the Postie doesn't want to dally on the doorstep waiting for deaf aid Doris, but completely dismissing the actual knocking part of the delivery procedure isn't really on in my book.

First to be burned at the stake in my revolution: lying Posties.

Representative smiley for the MSN infested: :mad:.

Urgh.

flashy 06-08-2008 11:11

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pmsfl, get on the phone to them and give the a right rollocking, i would :D

bonny_tuesday 06-08-2008 11:16

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I've actually seen them pretending to knock on doors!
give 'em a ring. Give 'em a good shouting at!
Another thing they do is, knock and run! Especially if they know that there is an older person inside, so that by the time they older person has got to the door to answer the knock there is nobody there!! I can't stand people with that mentality.
Bonny x

BERNADETTE 06-08-2008 11:49

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Shakermaker I accept that it's a bit mirky and wet outside, and the Postie doesn't want to dally on the doorstep waiting for deaf aid Doris,
Can quite understand your frustration but was there any need to add a derogatory comment to it?? Your comment about others less fortunate does you no favours:mad:

grego 06-08-2008 11:51

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I can understand how annoying that is especially when you've waited in, I would phone them and complain.

MikeSz 06-08-2008 11:58

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Oh I do love this rant - and im glad im not the only one with premature Victor Meldrew syndrome!!

My postie, when he can actually be arsed getting there before dinner time (I understand I'm lucky - someone at work tells me her postie doesnt turn up till after 2pm!) seems to go out of his way to scrunch my mail up as much as possible - I dont even have a spring loaded or draft protected letterbox - its just a normal swing open one.

I challenged him once on a day off when he made a flippant comment about my not being in normally - so I responded that yes, normally I am at work (like most people in the middle of the day) and in the absense of royal mail not sending their posties out at proper hours any more, would he like me to explain using small words and visual aids how to put an envelope through a letterbox without resorting to Origami for toddlers? I also pointed out that as the purpose of a postie was to, you know, deliver mail...that it might be beneficial in future that he actually put my perfectly normal sized CD's from Amazon through the letterbox rather than deciding that it was just too much effort and sticking a red card through in its place, though if he wanted to do that, id be happy to start a tally for my share of his sallary for all my trips to cantebury st.

flashy 06-08-2008 12:10

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well at least the postie doesnt nick bank cards like the one up fern gore(actually top of willows lane) did a couple of years ago with my sisters bank card and several other peoples

Benipete 06-08-2008 12:34

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Originally Posted by grego (Post 615418)
I can understand how annoying that is especially when you've waited in, I would phone them and complain.

Three times I waited in for a repair man to call.

Three times he put a card through the door.
When I asked why he didn't ring the door bell he said it was in case I had a gas leak and a spark from the bell could blow him up!!!:angel:

grannyclaret 06-08-2008 12:46

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Weve had this done too, the first time it was before half past seven in the morning ,brought in a van , our post man dosent come until between 11 and 2 in the afternoon,
I HEARD A KNOCK AND BEFORE I COULD GET TO THE DOOR HE WAS GONE,card posted ,written out to say we were not in,,Is this what they call speed writing ?,,,Probably thinking we were still in bed,,,Fumming mad I was at the sorting office for nine oclock when it opened but the van haddent even arrived back...that was on a rainy day too

jambutty 06-08-2008 12:50

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 615383)
I've been sat in this morning waiting for a delivery of books. Only, I've been given a little red card to read instead.

Chapter one:
"Sorry, you were out" it read.
"No I bloody wasn't" I said.
"Time: 11-15" it followed.
"Lying gits! If I heard this wafer of a thing coming through the letterbox I think I would've heard a knock" I said, rather vexed now.

Realising that I was now bellowing at a piece of card, I came on here to take out a little frustration. Equally pointless I know, but no one from Royal Mail is within punching distance.

I accept that it's a bit mirky and wet outside, and the Postie doesn't want to dally on the doorstep waiting for deaf aid Doris, but completely dismissing the actual knocking part of the delivery procedure isn't really on in my book.

First to be burned at the stake in my revolution: lying Posties.

Representative smiley for the MSN infested: :mad:.

Urgh.

The poor maligned Postie gets it in the neck again.

To those complaining about late deliveries, try to remember that someone on the Postie’s round has to be first and someone has to be last. And as I understand it the rounds are much larger than in previous years so it takes longer to complete.

Once upon a time a particular Postie would have a particular round and s/he got to know the people on his/her route. If my experience is anything to go by that no longer happens. I seem to get a different Postie every week. Sometimes the post arrives at around 10.00am and on other days it can be around noon. The main point here is that it arrives intact and for me when isn’t an issue.

Small parcels that can get pushed through the letterbox get pushed through the letterbox unless a signature is required.

Anything too large or requiring my autograph I get a knock on the door. Not being quite as sprightly on my feet as I would like, it takes time for me to get to my door. But I have never found the Postie gone and a card through the door except of course when I wasn’t actually in. However living in Darwen like I do, I suspect that most Posties know who is likely to be in and who isn’t and who is getting on a bit and in my case, the Postie will know by the absence of my car at the front door, whether I was in or not. And also, because my bedroom is at the front of the flat, the Postie will know if I am up or not by the curtains still being drawn closed or open. I have noticed that if my curtains are still drawn, the Postie knocks loud and long and waits for me to get up. His knock is much quieter when my curtains have been pulled back.

So basically I have no complaints about the postal service that I receive and I think that you are being unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

kathleen_firth 06-08-2008 13:17

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surely it would of been just as easy to knock than fill out the paper work to post.

oh i dont know how the royal mail people think....

MargaretR 06-08-2008 14:26

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Perhaps by making 2 trips they are securing their jobs.
A lot of mail is now e-mail

katex 06-08-2008 14:33

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Would have thought than an 'on-foot' postie would be only too pleased to get rid of the weight ... and not have to cart it back to the sorting office .. :confused:

emamum 06-08-2008 14:34

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If he took it with him in the first place........

that might be why they are disapearing so quickly

accyman 06-08-2008 14:36

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probably wanted to get home and already had the card written ,my friend works for a housing association and often jokes about the feather he keeps in his van for knocking on doors so he can put a you wernt home card through the door and get away early

im sure he dosnt realy do it lol

cashman 06-08-2008 15:05

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have had " a you were not in card" a couple of times n its bloody annoying when you were n as i'm usually in front room on computer, they definately never knocked, also annoying is getting 3 letters for 3 differant people one of the addresses is usually fer the Street, not the Road i live on, this happens at least once every 3 months, just cos yours is on the ball jim, don't mean everyones is.

bonny_tuesday 06-08-2008 15:59

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Yesterday my daughter had mail for next door on both sides and for somebody who used to live in her house 9 years ago.
She has notified the post office on numerous occasions that they no longer live there.
I think the reason she gets her neighbours mail is because they all have steep drives!
Bonny x

jaysay 06-08-2008 16:16

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 615519)
If he took it with him in the first place........

that might be why they are disapearing so quickly

I think you've hit the nail on the head there ema, no doubt that he had the little red card already made out befor he got to Lesses door, I've had this with letters that don't have the correct postage on they never knock they just put these flaming cards through the door:mad:

jambutty 06-08-2008 17:57

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 615539)
have had " a you were not in card" a couple of times n its bloody annoying when you were n as i'm usually in front room on computer, they definately never knocked, also annoying is getting 3 letters for 3 differant people one of the addresses is usually fer the Street, not the Road i live on, this happens at least once every 3 months, just cos yours is on the ball jim, don't mean everyones is.

Equally cashman, just because shakermaker’s Postie was not on the ball it doesn’t mean everyone’s is not on the ball.

My lifetime experience of receiving mail through my door suggests that the majority of postmen and postwomen do a sterling job in all weathers. There will always be some rogues and lazy people and you get that in any group but in the main our postal service is very good.

All you people moaning about mail deliveries would have something to moan about if you had to collect your own from the Post Office.

It wouldn’t surprise me to discover that some ‘suit’ in Royal Mail hasn’t already considered ‘collect your own’ as a means of increasing their profits and a bonus for the ‘suit’. The only thing preventing such a move is finding a suitable ‘downtown’ premises where the PO Boxes could be placed and figuring out how to sack thousands of postmen and women without starting a civil war.

cashman 06-08-2008 20:35

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the suits are equally as useless, when i moved to blackpool in early 90s, being a trade union branch sec at the time, i PAID the post office to redirect my mail, cos obviously some of it would be very important, for the next 12 months minimum, most of it was sent to my old address in accy, luckily my union stuff was soon diverted to me new one as obviously i notified them, but stuff from solicitors regarding peoples accidents were not, the person who purchased my property in accy used to ring me to tell me mail had come, which was very good of em, but a damn nuisance fer me, as i had to trail from church to nr baxenden at rush hour to collect before going home to blackpool, when i had PAID fer this service, as far as i am concerned the GPO is crap from top to bottom, yes there are some good people who work hard for em, i still have a couple of mates that do, n their opinion is the same as mine, n they are near retirement now n have worked fer em fer donkeys.

shakermaker 06-08-2008 22:25

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 615410)
Can quite understand your frustration but was there any need to add a derogatory comment to it?? Your comment about others less fortunate does you no favours:mad:

Doris likes her nickname. She told me to include it. It isn't an insult.

shakermaker 06-08-2008 22:26

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 615455)
So basically I have no complaints about the postal service that I receive and I think that you are being unfair to tar them all with the same brush.

Who are 'them'? I have complained about lying Posties. I haven't said all posties are liars; they aren't. I haven't done any tarring.

BERNADETTE 06-08-2008 22:39

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Originally Posted by shakermaker (Post 615841)
Doris likes her nickname. She told me to include it. It isn't an insult.

In that case please accept my apologises:o

Royboy39 06-08-2008 22:48

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What about a reversable sign on the door 'Please Knock I'm in'
Or don't bother knocking I'm out, leave the parcel next door at No:?

grannyclaret 06-08-2008 23:10

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I have no complaint with the foot postman except it comes so late,,,I was complaining about the post van deliveries ...and he must already have had some cards printed out already,,,with just the time to fill in,,,plus the fact that the sorting office is only open until dinner time,,,,

Benipete 07-08-2008 03:50

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It wouldn’t surprise me to discover that some ‘suit’ in Royal Mail hasn’t already considered ‘collect your own’ as a means of increasing their profits and a bonus for the ‘suit’. The only thing preventing such a move is finding a suitable ‘downtown’ premises where the PO Boxes could be placed and figuring out how to sack thousands of postmen and women without starting a civil warWouldn't mind a collect your own junk mail service.Would save on the white bag collections.

Benipete 07-08-2008 04:03

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Well that came out wrong - again.
The last two bits are mine. the rest is a quote from JB.

emzy 07-08-2008 09:23

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I was furtunate enough to actually catch the postie climbing over my gate last saturday morning (at around 7.15) the thing was he did knock, but didnt leave a card, just left 2 parcels on the doorstep. If for any reason I didnt hear the knock (which didnt actually wake the boys so couldnt have been all that loud) then no doubt my 2 parcels would have been stolen and I would have been none the wiser about the deliveries

Didnt agree with what he did but given that he had just woken me up and i was in my pj's i wasnt standing on the doorstep to argue

Studio25 07-08-2008 09:52

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Our postie is great- very conscientious and he also just posted a birthday card yesterday that had a "£1.14 to pay" sticker on it. The cynic in me thinks he might not have realised, but it would be nice to think he just thought it was ridiculous charging £1 processing for a 14p "underpayment".

Anyway - I think the worst offenders are anyone with a schedule to keep. I've caught a delivery bloke trying to put a card through the door at 4pm saying he'd tried to deliver at 12:45pm. It was for a guaranteed 1pm delivery that he'd missed.

ozzypostie 07-08-2008 10:50

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im sorry but i have to defend us postal workers a bit we knock on the door to get rid of the packages, the last thing we want is to be carrying dead weight around with us all day.
if your on the first part of the round and this happends we have to try and squeeze it in our bulging other 7 bags.
ive knocked on doors, rang bells several times waited for 5 mins and moved on only to be called back 5 mins after that with "oy postie" its very annoying.

we deliver to about 1000 homes so when you get letters through the post from someone who lived there 9 years ago and complain to us often sending the letters back with abuse jotted all over the letter you must realise we just deliver we dont send.

mistakes do happen were only human and if you ring the number on the card we will re deliver it for you the next day free of charge even to the inconveinance of the postie who has already tried to deliver previously but you will be surprised how manty times we redeliver and theres still no answer.

im refering to the foot posties here not the vans drivers .but i feel all posties are being tared with the same brush here the vast majority of posties in accrington take pride in delivering all mail correctly and im one of them!

jaysay 07-08-2008 16:38

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Originally Posted by ozzypostie (Post 616054)
im sorry but i have to defend us postal workers a bit we knock on the door to get rid of the packages, the last thing we want is to be carrying dead weight around with us all day.
if your on the first part of the round and this happends we have to try and squeeze it in our bulging other 7 bags.
ive knocked on doors, rang bells several times waited for 5 mins and moved on only to be called back 5 mins after that with "oy postie" its very annoying.

we deliver to about 1000 homes so when you get letters through the post from someone who lived there 9 years ago and complain to us often sending the letters back with abuse jotted all over the letter you must realise we just deliver we dont send.

mistakes do happen were only human and if you ring the number on the card we will re deliver it for you the next day free of charge even to the inconveinance of the postie who has already tried to deliver previously but you will be surprised how manty times we redeliver and theres still no answer.

im refering to the foot posties here not the vans drivers .but i feel all posties are being tared with the same brush here the vast majority of posties in accrington take pride in delivering all mail correctly and im one of them!

I can see your point OP but can you explain why, when there is a letter with insufficient postage on it (I don't know what was wrong with the old chaging rates)the postie puts a card through the door and definately doesn't knock. This has happenedto me on numerous occasions and its very annoying to say the least

sparkie 07-08-2008 19:33

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probably because the postie isn't allowed to take monies off people. Quite sensible when you think about it, stops any accusations of falsly obtaining funds, or failing to collect the right monies.

andrewb 07-08-2008 20:42

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I hope my new pc via citylink turns out ok tomorrow. :(

At Uni my deliveries never even came as far as my Block! Thats the first locked door but they never even attempted, always give them to Warden and if the warden wasnt in (most days since hes a lecturer) they'd just post a card and leave. I had to start watching out my window for hours if I knew they were coming so i could run to the wardens office.. haha.

ozzypostie 07-08-2008 21:56

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the card you get through the post comes from the delivery office desk were you owe money for underpaid items so wont be delivered until payed, ocassional some slip through the net and you get it for free if its not picked up by the system.
so theres no point knocking as we dont have anything for you.
you have to collect or leave it depends how important it is you may also get a reciept if you wish to take it up with the sender for any lost monies

Mr Aleks 07-08-2008 22:52

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I love it when i try to deliver stuff and the people are not in. My company rings me and says can you go back to 69 etc etc street they need it desperatly. Yes i will. But ill leave it till last. if they are not in and they need it then its your own fault no point in crying about it if you was in or not.

shakermaker 07-08-2008 22:56

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 616315)
I love it when i try to deliver stuff and the people are not in. My company rings me and says can you go back to 69 etc etc street they need it desperatly. Yes i will. But ill leave it till last. if they are not in and they need it then its your own fault no point in crying about it if you was in or not.

Full of sense as ever Aleks.
I was not pleased because the postie did not knock on my door. He/she just left a card, which isn't on.
Ozzyposie - I haven't complained about any other postie apart from the incompetent, ignorant and lazy postie that I had the displeasure of handling my property.

Benipete 08-08-2008 00:57

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Originally Posted by Aleks (Post 616315)
I love it when i try to deliver stuff and the people are not in. My company rings me and says can you go back to 69 etc etc street they need it desperatly. Yes i will. But ill leave it till last. if they are not in and they need it then its your own fault no point in crying about it if you was in or not.

I Am really disappointed when I am unable to deliver a parcel and try and leave it with a neighbour or at least be as helpful as I can.
If I can return on my way back I will only be to pleased to help.
The customer is always right and I will do my best to promote the good intension's of my employer.
I realise that without customers I will be out of a job.

Is that what you meant?:idea::D:whip:

jaysay 08-08-2008 10:09

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Originally Posted by ozzypostie (Post 616289)
the card you get through the post comes from the delivery office desk were you owe money for underpaid items so wont be delivered until payed, ocassional some slip through the net and you get it for free if its not picked up by the system.
so theres no point knocking as we dont have anything for you.
you have to collect or leave it depends how important it is you may also get a reciept if you wish to take it up with the sender for any lost monies

Thanks for that postie, but I still think its a nonsense, that items are judged on size as well as weight, I hadabout three of these cards through my door at xmas and they were all xmas cards, two had 1st class stamps on them, but according to the GPO list were about half an inch to long

ozzypostie 09-08-2008 10:19

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a lot of what royal mail does is nonsence im afraid this isnt the posties fault its the people who get paid mega money to come up with all these stupid changes to save or make more money for themselves.
when we striked last year due to all these changes and not just the pay increase we should of got, The big cheifs at the top who said the company was struggling took a bonus of 2 million maybe more im not sure. These are the people who are ruining what was once a fine oiled machine that was the envy of europe and now well time will tell.

Loz 09-08-2008 13:57

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Had this problem a couple of times,card through the door saying we called but you weren't in when we most definately were!
Annoying when you have to traipse to the post office to collect it.
Also keep getting peoples mail from the road across the street from the flats we live in and for people that lived in this flat before me and i've lived here for 8 years now!
Not really having a go at posties,i'm sure the majority do as good a job as they possibly can but a minority are spoiling it as well as the bosses.

Benipete 09-08-2008 14:39

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Originally Posted by ozzypostie (Post 616831)
a lot of what royal mail does is nonsence im afraid this isnt the posties fault its the people who get paid mega money to come up with all these stupid changes to save or make more money for themselves.
when we striked last year due to all these changes and not just the pay increase we should of got, The big cheifs at the top who said the company was struggling took a bonus of 2 million maybe more im not sure. These are the people who are ruining what was once a fine oiled machine that was the envy of europe and now well time will tell.

With you on that one,the street postmen &women do a remarkable job and from my experience are always well oiled.:D:hidewall:


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