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It is reported that as of September primary school children will be weighed and if it is found that they are obese specialist nurses will be cold calling at their homes to offer help tackling the problem. Surely the money that is being spent on setting things like this up could be put to better use. I think a lot of parents will resent the fact that somebody is undermining their parenting skills.

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maybe the money would be better spent on something like extra swimming lessons for them? afterall, swimming is one of the best forms of exercise for losing weight

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If there is a medical reason why the child is obese then surely that will be noted. If not then if help is offered it should be accepted.
I don't suppose these nurses will be forcing anyone to do anything, just offering advice. Childhood obesity is a terrible problem these days and most people don't want their child to be obese so would accept help if offered.

Another point is that obesity in very young children cannot be the fault of the child so in absence of a medical issue it must be down to what the parents are feeding the child. These parents need help and education for the sake of their child.

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I was thin as a child and now struggle with my weight, my sister was "chubby" and is now a size 4 / 6, everyone changes as they get older

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No Flashy . swimming will help tone muscles, lose a few calories yes, but the only way to lose weight is not to overeat more than your body needs, knock off sugars ... e.g. biscuits, cakes, peanuts, chips, crisps, bread etc. Easy really.

I see loads of people at my gym in the pool overweight (well.. they are at least trying), but no weight loss that I can see as I spy them in the restaurant later at lunch tucking into pasta dishes and chips !

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Sorry but I feel that more than enough has been spent advertising health diets and so forth. People are being told they can't have drugs which could save their lives because there is no money in the pot, yet money can be found for schemes like this. Time to get priorities right IMHO

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children dont need 'diets' they need healthy lifestyles....... diets actually make you fatter in the long run (apparently)

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Exactly:)

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Which is what these nurses will be advising when they call, is it not? :confused:

A change of lifestyle.

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yeah........ some childhood obesity is because of the parents ignorance...

the nurses might guilt the parents that dont care into doing something (sometimes happens when an outside agency becomes involved)and they will teach the parent that dont know better,

The partents do need help but not necassarily from nurses, dieticians and early years practitioners are qulified in child health and diet and nutrition and the nurses would be better off used elsewhere imo

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I don't think a nurse calling on the parents will do much good. If a parent has a fat child, and doesn't try to do anything about it, it's more a case of "can't be ar$ed" than anything else.

My granddaughter is a well-built child. She has the same physique as her mother and her grandfather (my late husband, who wasn't at all fat but was broad shouldered and - just a big lad)), she's tall and big-boned but she isn't fat because her diet is sensible and she's encouraged to do a lot of physical activity such as dancing, swimming and cycling.

There can't be a parent alive today who doesn't know all about the dangers of obesity. If they haven't already tackled it - they never will.

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This scheme will save lives too.

Some parents just need a little help and advice.

It's all for the good of the child. Obesity is a killer and it is said that many children today will die before their parents.

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Yes but my point is this money could be spent on more deserving things IMO.

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Don't be ridiculous Emamum .. what is the difference between healthy lifestyle and diet .. same difference to me ... :confused:

I haven't any issue with people who are overweight ... it's how you feel yourself about it and if it is affecting your health.

Ok Emzy .. you feel you are overweight (I understand about your tummy area due to those gorgeous boys you have brought into the world). Let us monitor you and give us your consumption of food over the next three days (no cheating) and can compare against our slimmer members, if that is what you want, which appears to be an issue for you.

Start now .. what have you eaten today ? ... no lying please.

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But it's costing the country millions Bernie, so by doing this programme, could save the country millions to be spent on other things.

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im talking about the difference.....if you say diet then people automatically think, atkins, cabbage soup, detox etc....... im talking about what they eat for the rest of their lives

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Ok .. these diets are extreme aren't they ... a diet to me is just common sense as mentioned in my earlier post. Cut out the crap like puddings, sugars, etc. smaller portions.

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But as Westender pointed out it is most likely to be parents who can't be bothered who have children with obesity. You only have to look at families walking round town and you wil find that a lot of the parents are overweight. Maybe a bit less junk food would help.

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No-one is suggesting that all kids turn into clones of each other with exactly the same measurements.....just that they be alive and within the healthy weight range for their age and height.

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not so much fat children , its the jumbo parents that need seeing to. was in the local supermarket this morning and came to the conclusion ...there should be a law .......if your ass/hips are wider than a standard shopping cart you are not allowed into the store :eek: :eek:

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Jumbo parents very often breed jumbo kids and need educating about healthy food. This is why home visits have been suggested... to help the parents which in turn will help the child.

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Pity the person who gets the job of writing up the job description for the 'thin' police , .... " all applicants MUST meet BMI index standards, 25 being the maximum etc. " ...." employment is dependant on staying thin etc. ".......guess discrimination is okay in this instance .
No doubt the local councils will end up paying out millions in compensation for hurting the feelings of some fat typist who had to type it up . ;) ;)

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They would do better to spend the money on getting back the school playing fields and encouraging outdoor activity PT, games, sport, hopscotch, skipping......also getting parents to see that carbonated drinks are bad for their childrens health.

I am not sure if the fixation with weight at an early age could be harmful and encourage children to become anorexic/bulimic later on in their childhood.

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Where did you hear this, Bernadette?

Can you put a link up?

I can't seem to find one.

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It was in the Lancashire Telegraph today.

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Can't remember too much Bonnyboy, but when I was at school (years hence) .. used to have medicals once a year to check if any problems, which included weight, height, heart rate, etc .. probably only the basics. Not sure whether parents had the option .. probably, seem to remember having to bring home a form for my parents to sign.

They obviously never turned it down though, as was subjected to it and, in my opinion, only good for us.

Do they still test eyes these days too ?

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Lancashire Telegraph - East Lancashire's daily newspaper.
See if this works for you

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They do still test eyes and hearing but, like with everything else these days, parents have to give permission and can opt out if they want.

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Yeah,i opted out of the school giving ty an eye test since he has one every 3 months at the hospital anyway....

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This was in the papers this week. It's about weighing children and sending letters home to show the results i.e normal, overweight, underweight etc.

It makes no mention of nurses making home visits though. :confused:

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Thanks Margaret. :)

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was told many years ago, if ya wanna keep a reasonable shape eat everything ya like at meals, but EAT LESS of it n don't snack, aint saying thats right but everything i eat virtually, comes out of a chip pan or frying pan, n i have never been overweight, wether thats down to luck who knows? but its done me ok.

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Anorexia is nothing to do with just being overweight Margaret .. mental disorder.

There has been controversy all week as to whether to use the word obese .. well, call a spade a spade I say.

You all go on about money being spent in the N.H.S., but this is an area that can be rectified with the correct education, saving heartbreak and money later.

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It is in the Telegraph but not the link that Margaret put on(thanks Margaret). I don't do links (am useless with computers) but if anybody can help it is on page five

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Spot on again, Katex.

Karma coming your way.

Edit.....well it would be if the system would let me haha

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Maybe they could use the money to make healthy food cheaper. Anybody like to work out how much chips and beans cost as opposed to a salad ?

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in many cases ya can't put sense where there is none, any good parent will seek advice if there childs weight is a worry, of that i am sure, so sending nurses to persuade the numptys is a total waste of money,n like bernie says could be better spent elsewhere.

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Don't think you need to eat salads all the time but why can't folk cook from scratch? A lot of the problems come from feeding them convienience foods and there is allsorts added to them

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Yes, why don't they hike up the price of alphabites and turkey twizzlers to about £6 a packet?

They should stick a 'these cause death' warning on too, like they've done with the fags. :D

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Well, yes .. has been suggested, but like Cashy said .. eat smaller portions too ... don't leave the table with a distended stomach .. your body doesn't require all this bulk.

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Was a report today about Los Angeles restaurants putting the calorific value on menus .. could catch on over here, who knows ?

Even California, the state of fitness freaks, is worried about the increasing body weights.

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Down in L.A. they have passed a moritorium on new fast food outlets in certain parts of the city, notably in the poorer inner city sections, facts/research have confirmed that both child and adult obesity health problems are much higher among those living in public housing and dependant on welfare.
But its a catch 22 situation , supermarkets refuse to open in these areas due to higher operating costs (stock control/crime problems) so the folks are stuck with corner convienience shops (high prices) and fast junk food outlets.

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What a load of twaddle!!

How on Earth can we teach children that body image shouldnt be an issue, and then enforce this scheme?
We know children are cruel, how many more bullying cases are we going to see on the back of this??
I challenge anyone to find a parent that doesnt know they should be feeding their children lots of fruit and veg, and that a high amount of processed foods are not the best option.
Yes bulimia and anorexia are medical conditions, but to encourage a child to have an unhealthy relationship with food is just going to aggravate these conditions.

Or shall we spend a lot of money on teaching grandparents how to eat eggs without chewing as well

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Some years ago, when I lived in Hassy, there was a family lived round the corner, 2 adults who were both vastley over weight, and 4 children who were even more over weight. 6 days a week you could see the two elder kids going to the local Chinese chippy at around 5-15pm for tea, (probably would have been 7 days, but it wasn't open for tea on Sunday) There is a lot in the statement "you are what you eat", If parents set a bad example to their kids then don't be surpised if the kids turn out exactly the same. The fact is we're getting the same old store, parents that can't be bothered bringing their kids up right are being led by the nose, whilst parents that are responcible are get no encouragement, If we had to reward good parenting and name and shame bad parenting, it may have mor of an effect than keep acting like a nanny state

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Yet again the goverment sticking their nose in...again!!, Parents know if their child is overweight...it is obvious, so they dont need some nurse telling em that!

GRRRRRRR

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according to the news report that i cant be bothered going and finding again... parents of obese children classed them as being a healthy weight....

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Well they just stupid then, if my kids were obese, which i think is a horrible term, I would know they are.

But then again a lot of parents say..."its just puppy fat"

What is getting up my nose, is some jumped up twit telling us all how to live our lives...it just pee's me off!!

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I don't know if they've brought cookery or home economics or whatever they call it now back to the secondary school curriculum but it was axed shortly after I left in 1994. :(

This was a terrible move as it means that children are not being taught basic cookery skills. Some will be taught at home by their parents but for those whose parents can't cook / won't cook if they're not being taught at home and they're not being taught at school then it's small wonder they come to rely on microwave meals and convenience foods....they don't know how to cook a meal from scratch. :(

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Think some parents are just ignorant to the fact thier kids are overwieght. These imo are the ones that should be educated in the diets of their young uns.

I know most of you think that this is just another interfereing government , but I actually agree that some parents cant be bothered in what they feed their kids,

I actually Know someone that seems to think that it ok to let thier child do what they want , eat what they want and smoke and drink at the age at 14 and I think its disgusting... This child has even been on the nhs non smoking programme and failed because they get too stressed without a fag.. c,mon what a joke!!!!!!

This is just an example of a minority. there are many many more parents like that out there.

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But how many times does the message have to be put across?? To my mind this is just money thrown after bad!!

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What was the bad Bernie ?.... :confused:
Sure, as yet, no large funds gone to combating obesity as yet ? Except private enterprises.

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What was bad? Money spent on telling parents what was/is bad for their kids!!! How many times do they need telling? If you really believe that no funds have been spent trying to combat obesity think you must be reading some other reports from me!!

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why should there be kate? do you honestly think some do not know, junk food puts weight on?:confused:

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most of it is just Human nature, no amount of information about calories and diet will make any difference. just by instinct we know that steak pudding, chips and gravy is possibly less healthy than a bowl of spinach.. but I do find it strange that any new ideas are always slammed on this forum... at least this is some iniative being shown..of course money could be spent elsewhere.. but then it always could be, It's better that the Goverment take some sort of action rather than just stick heads in the sand.

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Think it will be a waste of money personally.
Most parents will probably opt out of it because they don't believe their kids are obese.
Also any semi-intelligent person knows what foods are bad and which are good for you so if they feed kids junk food its laziness and ignorance,i don't believe a nurse telling them to do things differently will change anything imo.
Yes it is an issue that needs addressing but don't think this is the way.
For starters instead of giving parents the choice to opt out of their kids being weighed etc... why not make it compulsory?
And i agree about making certain foods cheaper and others dearer.
Has anybody got other ideas about waht could be done apart from what has already been mentioned?

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could firebomb iceland to help cut child obesity but then again the smell of cooked chicken will have the fat kids rushing into the flames :rolleyes: