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just heard on the radio that any one that claimed child allowance will get £150 to help out with winter fuel charges

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child allowance as in child benefit/ family allowance?

well EVERYONE who has a child/children claims that, so is it going to go to EVERYONE with kids? even the royal family?

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is that as well as the fantastic allowance you get if the temp drops below 0? what is it now? was £7 last time i got it...

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Am sure someone mentioned it to me, if your getting child tax credits / income support. Need to look into it further, Im still paying last years bills :(

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ta for that Dave


this is all good and well IF they use the money for gas and leccy, maybe its just a bit more money to go on alcohol and drugs?

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was thinking the same..... was also thinking that since its a winter payment will go towards christmas...

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to be honest i'm not really feeling the fuel rise at the moment, yeah i may feel it when the colder weather starts....i'm on meters and i wouldnt ever have them removed, they have been in since i moved in 12 years ago and i love them, i can keep an eye on what i'm putting in and using and not have a huge bill at the end of it, if i have to put £20 a week in the gas this winter it wont bother me at all, its just the price of living nowadays, i think this is a bad idea giving people this money, in most cases it wont go on what its meant for, as it says on the link that Dave put ip, its just a ploy to keep Brown in number 10

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The fuel rises will be hitting everybody hard, not just parents. I can see that some folk won't be happy about this.

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That's very true. One thing that annoys me is that the cost of fuel isn't proportionate to the number of people in a house. Boiling a pan of potatoes costs around the same for one person as it does for four. A TV uses as much electricity if there's one or twenty people watching it.

I qualify for nothing at all, except a 25% reduction in council tax now I live on my own, but the cost of living is going up the same for me as it is for everyone else.

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I fail to understand why 'Sweeteners' are kept in reserve by the Government....If they feel that some members of the public are deserving of an increase give it to them...on the other hand, if it is felt and proved that certain members of the public are not deserving of the benifit...take it away.
The same should apply to all benifits......Pension credit is another bone of contension...If the Government think that a minimum amount of money is required to maintain a family home, bring the pension up to the required level and don't play about with means testing.
The Government did not fullly compensate pensioners for stealing from the pension funds in the way of tax?
What do you think?

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It is a god point and the irony is that people who have not paid one penny in their whole life qualify for the same benifit.

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Damn good poing, Have a bit of Karma from me!


POING!!!!! lol PoinTTTT........ karma sent

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Be better if they paid it straight to the gas or elec company, just more beer/drug money for some isn't it

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There are a lot of responsible people left....I hope :):confused:

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This is what I meant, it was people like you who I was referring to.

I can understand how annoying things like this must be for you.

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The people who get the thick end of the wedge...........Working Taxpayer.?

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another attempt to buy the poor persons vote ,what shoudl happen is that the government should drag the likes of british gas over the coals and if needed force them to reduce fuel costs because i am %100 sure british gas's only excuse and only genuine excuse for continualy raising fuel prices is that the fat cats at the top want more money

oil prices may well have gone up but briish gas especialy has been hiking the prices up for years when not needed and could easily afford to absorb some of the rise in fuel costs but that would mean making a few less millions each day so thay wont

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I'm not really complaining in my case, as I earn a decent wage and I'm not exactly struggling to get by. However, there are loads of people out there who are finding the increasing cost of living hard to cope with, but don't qualify for any kind of help.

I wouldn't mind some kind of payback, however, as I pay loads out in income tax every month! :( ;)

Thanks BB and BT for the karma. :)

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I was talking about people like Tin Monkey who don't get child benefit or any other help.

There's a group of people who are not yet pensioners so don't get any of the allowances that pensioners get but who don't have young / any children so don't get allowances there either....in fact they get sod all so I can understand their frustrations over things like this.

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Don't expect payback on pensions or NI......The Government spend that as they go along, and on people who dont contribute.

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I think you'll find that I was referring to Tin Monkey :rolleyes:

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But that's the way it's always worked. When it comes time for me to draw my pension, will there be any pot for me to dip in to? (And I know the answer to that already).

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To quote the poet "Oh to be in England".......not a chance in hell. :eek:
Good luck.

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What allowances ? Should be getting a tax personal allowance before tax of £9030 (at 65)... they now telling me has dropped to £4954 !! (taxed now @ 20% over this amount .. thanks Gordon) am totally confused, as this tax debt was supposedly being collected by my last employer last year.. still on a bloody K code .. will have to ring them tomorrow as now making life difficult for me .. will have to go back to some work. Know they will be correct, but just do not get it !!

Get the Council Tax 25% .. as other people living alone, and the fuel allowance/bus pass .. that is it !

Sorry to sound off ... just every time I sort things out, summat else comes along.

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Kate.....If you vote labour in the next election...I will come back to haunt you. :p

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There will never be a system that suits all unfortunatley.

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At this rate Roy, will be haunting you .. LOL.

Actually haven't voted Labour for years, 'cept in Local Elections >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :hidewall:

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Well This is just a way for GB to scrape back a few votes. Well not mine im affraid ...

This plonker has made far to many cock ups to get my vote no matter how much he offers in backhanders ,

If the public has any sense grab whats on offer while its there for the taking then get shut of the clown that put it on the plate before he finds a way to snatch it from under your nose...

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The tax allowance for the whole year in which you attain age 65
(this tax yr) is tax allowance 9030

It took me a bit of hassle to get it - you need to phone them to remind them how old you are :D

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that would have been easy to arrange if it had not been sold off by you know who, think now the logistics of it would be difficult?

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wish I got a tax allowance of 9030, you old un's have never it so good :p:D

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Yes, they know that Margaret, but there is a 'however' on my new coding, and this tax code has been sent to the company responsible for my very 'small private' pension which doesn't even match the amount they are talking about.

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We have paid in blood sweat and tears for that allowance....what say you?

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The firm who are paying your company pension will need a notification direct from your tax office - I had to ring 3 times and they sent 3, before I eventually got a refund.

PS you finish up with a peculiar tax code because they reduce it by your retirement pension.

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Understand this, but they are saying still owe this debt of £815 which they said that last year and adjusted my code then to cover it to my Employers, but now saying I still owe it !! Ah well, will speak to them tomorrow to get an explanation... do understand Income Tax, but this one got me baffled, probably looking at it more closely as my income now reduced drastically :(

Sorry folks to be self-indulgent with my problem.

Don't understand this new allowance on the child benefit either ... :confused:

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So people on child benefit and oaps will get a fuel allowance?
Fair enough,not got a problem with that but what about the rest of us?
Just because we work we don't earn massive amounts,we don't get any help with anything and our gas bill has just tripled so we can't afford it!
God knows what it will be like in winter,its scarey!
We have already turned the boiler off to try and save some money and are investing in some wooley jumpers and thick duvets for winter.
I don't think this has been thought through properly,just another empty gesture from GB to try and save his political life.

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Don't worry cherokee he's already thieved it of you before he gives it back, he's been taking £5 billion a year out of private pension schemes for 11 years now, I have a friend who projected pension is now £60 a week less that it was 12 years ago, and due to the 10p tax fiasco is taxed on it as well

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I don't know much about tax codes, Katex but hope you get yours sorted. :)

The allowances I was talking about for pensioners are the heating allowance, free tv licence, bus pass, prescriptions etc

People like Tin Monkey don't get any of these or any of the allowances for young children. There are no allowances for people like him so I can understand him being miffed off.....that's all I was saying. :)

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This isnt fair. Everyone has the rising cost of living so why do people with kids get help. Sorry i agree with Tin monkey - im in the same position as him.



Wonder if spugs up for being a daddy again? :D:D:D

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Thats a bit extreme for a one off £150 payout Jen:D

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I have one son who spends most of his time with me, but because his mum has custody i am not entitled to a penny help.Then we have family tax credit,got a mate at work who earns same money as me yet gets £360 a month extra for having two kids and wife,we are all paying for this-why?

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Is it any wonder people like Shillelagh and Tin Monkey feel the system is unfair towards them when they read statements like yours?

You say that this mate of yours gets £360 a month extra for having two kids and a wife. This makes it sound like everyone with 2 kids and a wife is just given large sums like this every month but that isn't true, is it?

My husband has two kids and a wife and I can tell you that he does not get £360 a month or anything for that matter.

In fact unmarried people are often entitled to more.

You don't say anything about your friend's age, earnings or circumstances etc just that he is married with two kids....this alone would not result in him being given £360 a month, there must be other circumstances. Is one of his children disabled? ...and you don't say who gives him this?
Is it tax credits, carers allowance, what?

Give us the full picture please.

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I think he may mean £36, that is what i get for having a wife and 2 kids.........!

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He clears about £260 a week,30 yrs old,lives with partners mum and dad (not married sorry)and its family tax credit,also refuses to do any overtime because this would affect family tax credit-hope that makes it clearer:)

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£90 a week 360 a month,if you get £36 perhaps he's on the fiddle.

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depends how many hours you work and how much tax you pay..... is it not a rebate on your tax?

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I wonder if the next election will be timed to coincide with this latest bribe.....whoops, one off payement?

I think Gordon Brown must have been watching Peter Britcliffe, when he found money for the free pensioner's coaches to the coast, for the month, and only that month, after the local election.

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I do BOC (better off calculations) everyday and they do vary depending on age, circumstances. There are lots of different premiums such as over 50 you will receive a premium for this, being disadvantaged in the work place you can receive a prmium for this working 30 hours plus also has a premium. If you earn 15,000 pa then you will receive less tax credits but may still get full child tax credit. The government are introducing return to work credits (£40.00 per week for the 1st twelve months)for people returning to work who are on health related benefits. If you think you are not getting correct tax credits or child tax credits or any of the premiums mentioned above it may be worth visiting your local CAB and they can do a BOC for you, no point asking JCP as they are not really interested in people who have already returned to the work place.

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it does, he gets the working family tax credit then.....i know a few people who make a bit on that old scam........makes my blood boil.....so i`ll be grabbing the £150 fuel payout with both hands if/when it comes......

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Tax credits are paid in arrears so basically you get credits based on the previous years earnings, depending on his hourly rate at 40 hours fetching 260 home would be about 6.50 per hour,each year he would earn approx 13,500 which is below the 15,000 threshold so he probably would be getting up to 80.00 per week tax and child credits, this is only a rough guess I would need exact figures for the breakdown to be right

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maybe you need to contact tax credits and fill out the forms again, you can do it by telephone to

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Unmarried couples are treated in the same way as married couples when it comes to tax credits, benefits etc. If any unmarried couples get more then they are fiddling.

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I think this may have been mixed up with single people, who depending on their circumstances can claim tax credits but not all single people are eligible and if anyone gets more than they are entitled to they will have to pay them back and the tax man doesn't give up until he has every peeny back

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An allowance when the temp goes below zero:eek::eek::eek: $15 .... my god, what a concept. I wish they would try it here. How much do you get when it goes below 20 or 30? Or, if you live in Northern Ontario, or Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, when it goes below 40!!!!!!:theband:

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I think everyone would benefit from an allowance for fuel bills I may work full time but it doesn't mean that the price increase on fuel will not affect me and I am sure there are lots of othe people on here who would benefit from a little help from the government

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You're onto him! ;)

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I meant couples who don't live together so each is considered as a single.

Hear hear. :)

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Exactly what i was saying in my post earlier,this affects everybody to some extent but we won't all get much needed help.:(

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Thats the only trouble when your trying to bride somebody Loz, you make some happy yet you upset other groups i.e. the 10p tax fiasco

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just heard on the news that this IS NOT going to happen now, people on child benefit ARE NOT going to get £150 fuel allowance, they have changed their minds, watch the news at 10 to find out more

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what a surprise!

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yeah surprise surprise lets just milk the country dry buy the mortgage companies and watch us all get reposessed and reap in the rewads...............new labour new britain.

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Shock..............Horror.................:eek: The wife had it earmarked for some Hilfiger Denim Jeans..........

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the pensioners always get a fuel allowance willow, i think my dad got £200 (or something like that) last year, so i presume they will still carry on getting it

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I think the pension fuel allowance will continue.....

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