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cherokee 04-09-2008 19:31

Injured solder turned away from hotel for being in the army
 
First it was the soldier refused beer in the petrol station, then it was the Birmingham airport scandal and now this !!!!

:mad::mad:When are people going to realise that these guys need a bit of reconition and praise for putting their lives on the line, not condemning and turning away.:mad:


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cmonstanley 04-09-2008 19:51

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is there a link.was he refused for just being in the army or was there any other reason ,was there a misquote:confused::confused:i cant see somebody being refused for just purely having their uniform on..if its true its about time we turned this country upside down and got back to basics.....first of all the army should have the freedom to go anywhere because they put their ass on the line for britain.....

WillowTheWhisp 04-09-2008 20:55

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He evidently didn't have his uniform on. It was only when he presented his military ID for identification purposes that he was refused. I can understand them not wanting a uniformed soldier in case it attracted terrorist acts, but no-one would know he was a soldier if he looked like a civilian would they?

cashman 04-09-2008 20:58

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was on 6-00 news, its as willow says according to reports, that being the case its disgraceful.:(

WillowTheWhisp 04-09-2008 21:01

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From the link
Quote:

The Metro Hotel, which is owned by American Amusements Ltd, has issued an apologetic statement saying the incident "was a mistake".
Maybe the official policy is not to have uniformed soldiers and the desk clerk misinterpreted it as any military personnel.

cashman 04-09-2008 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 627078)
From the link

Maybe the official policy is not to have uniformed soldiers and the desk clerk misinterpreted it as any military personnel.

or just maybe they pay peanuts n employ monkeys:D

Royboy39 04-09-2008 21:12

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I have served with our country cousins and know exectly where they are coming from.

American Amusements Ltd,

cherokee 04-09-2008 22:24

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I think its an utter disgrace. like what as been said he wasnt in uniform ,he was asked to show ID and when he produced his army ID he was apparently told they would not let a soldier stay.(or words of that effect)
None the less maybe we are back to if it was a mistake staff not knowing their jobs again. (lack of training) as cashy says pay peanuts!!!!!!!!

BERNADETTE 04-09-2008 22:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 627101)
I think its an utter disgrace. like what as been said he wasnt in uniform ,he was asked to show ID and when he produced his army ID he was apparently told they would not let a soldier stay.(or words of that effect)
None the less maybe we are back to if it was a mistake staff not knowing their jobs again. (lack of training) as cashy says pay peanuts!!!!!!!!

Totally agree but then it is only a soldier serving the country that is being insulted, so there seems to be no problem:mad:

cherokee 05-09-2008 00:26

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 627107)
Totally agree but then it is only a soldier serving the country that is being insulted, so there seems to be no problem:mad:


I agree Bernie, The attitude from some british citezens towords our troops is disgraceful :mad:. Wouldnt think that many of them would put themselves in their position would you?
Our lads are fighting for the country we all live in but it seems a case of out of sight out of mind with some. and even when they come home they arent worthy of recognition:mad:

Eric 05-09-2008 00:30

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It's hard to believe this happened.

cashman 05-09-2008 00:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 627145)
It's hard to believe this happened.

only cos ya emigrated years ago Eric, things like this are not that unusual here these days.;)

BERNADETTE 05-09-2008 00:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 627145)
It's hard to believe this happened.

But it did Eric and very few seem concerned about it. Disgraceful IMHO:mad:

cashman 05-09-2008 00:40

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 627149)
But it did Eric and very few seem concerned about it. Disgraceful IMHO:mad:

Blazey mentioned on a thread the "American Dream" sadly shes got a point, back in 70s a highly decorated G.I.s body was returned to one of the southern states n his family had to bury him over 30 miles away, cos all the ones around his hometown were " All White" cemetries. now this aint as bad as that, but the principles the same.:(

cherokee 05-09-2008 00:40

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I agree Eric ..
But then is it really? after all we are talking about Britain.and the british public:rolleyes:

cherokee 05-09-2008 00:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 627150)
Blazey mentioned on a thread the "American Dream" sadly shes got a point, back in 70s a highly decorated G.I.s body was returned to one of the southern states n his family had to bury him over 30 miles away, cos all the ones around his hometown were " All White" cemetries. now this aint as bad as that, but the principles the same.:(

I vaguely rem hearing or reading something about that . Terrible

Ber999T 05-09-2008 04:19

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Having looked at the link to the report i noted that there has been 1257 posted comments.

Not had time to look at but if 1st page anything to go by pewwwwwwwwwwwww that hotel could be in trouble and have they heard of the American owners???????

Would that have happened if it was US troop out of uniform visiting?

Love to hear what they have to say given the way their troops get respect!!!!!

Eric I guess the North Americans know how to support their troops all we can do here is disrespect them and the dangerous job that they willingly under take on behalf of this COUNTRY not goverment (they maybe the bosses but they are not the Country)

mani 05-09-2008 04:42

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uk troops just dont get treated with the respect and courtesy that their american counterparts get

if an american solider is on leave and in full uniform in a restaurant - there's a very good chance someone will offer to pick up his tab. thats how high respect they have for them.

here they get advised not to wear their uniform for fear of attacks.

the only time i think its ok to refuse army personnel - and i know i'm gonna get shot down now - is in a nightclub. esp if its a group of squaddies. alot of clubs if they realise that it is squaddies on a night out they will refuse them entry as after a few drinks they can be a handful.

WillowTheWhisp 05-09-2008 07:25

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According to some reports mani I think that's what has been behind this incident, that the hotel has had trouble n the past from a rowdy group of squaddies and adopted a 'never again' policy which unfortunately has been misinterpreted by this particular member of staff and taken to extremes. There is a world of a difference between one smart soldier in uniform sitting at a restaurant table and eating his meal with perfect dignity and a crowd of drunken partying rebel rousers. Maybe army personnel party harder because they have it tougher.

cherokee 05-09-2008 10:03

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Well I sorry but I disagree. yes squaddies can party hard but no harder than civvies .
You walk into town on a fri or sat night and you will see blokes and even women kicking off.
Its the pubs and clubs that are to blame for this not the squaddies. the pubs/clubs are the ones that sell stupid things like shots/alco pops . have them on special offer. but then dont like to pick up the after effects.
squaddies are no different to your average group of rowdy lads going out, and also like civvies there are good and bad .
you could send two groups of lads out, one being squaddies the other civvies and I,d put money on there being just as much chance of the civvie group kicking off.
Fair enough dont allow same sex groups in your hotel , but to condemn a soldier who Incidently was on his own at ten o clock at night (so assumingly at that time just wanted to get his head down) is and utter disgrace and IMO a quick SORRY!!! isnt good enough.

moonshiner 05-09-2008 12:01

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thankfully not all hotels and clubs are like these pratts my son is a serving solder based in aldershot, him and a few lads went into london the other week for birthday drink. at one club the manager gave themfour bottles of champers for nowt:D

Eric 05-09-2008 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ber999T (Post 627158)
Having looked at the link to the report i noted that there has been 1257 posted comments.

Not had time to look at but if 1st page anything to go by pewwwwwwwwwwwww that hotel could be in trouble and have they heard of the American owners???????

Would that have happened if it was US troop out of uniform visiting?

Love to hear what they have to say given the way their troops get respect!!!!!

Eric I guess the North Americans know how to support their troops all we can do here is disrespect them and the dangerous job that they willingly under take on behalf of this COUNTRY not goverment (they maybe the bosses but they are not the Country)

Canada is not a "military" country. We have a relatively small military; but it is effective, highly trained and very professional, with a long history of effectiveness from Vimy Ridge, to Juno Beach. We have made a commitment to NATO to keep the Canadian Battle Group in Kandahar until 2011; and Canadian troops are suffering casualties .... 96 killed already, and god knows how many wounded physically and psychologically. The majority of Canadians are opposed to the conflict in Afghanistan; but an even greater majority supports our men and women serving there. There is no paradox in this. Every Friday many Canadians wear something red to show support for our troops. Canadian service men and women, in and out of uniform are more than welcome at any business in Kingston .... in fact anywhere in Canada. A hell of a lot of businesses of all types offer discounts to members of the military.

When we bring home our dead to CFB Trenton, the major air transport base, and are taken to Toronto along Highway 401, thousands line the highway to show their respects .... and not only on the nice days; whatever the weather, snow, rain, frigid below zero temps, they are there.

It is reassuring to see the outrage that this incident has generated.


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