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K.S.H 05-09-2008 20:36

Stupidity and traffic don't mix
 
Police have released CCTV footage of a 14-year-old boy being struck by a bus outside a school in southern Scotland.
Dumfries and Galloway Constabulary want to make other pupils aware of the dangers passing traffic can pose.
The boy broke his nose and shoulder in the incident, which police say he was lucky to survive.
He has now made a full recovery.



This lads very lucky to be alive, surprised he got away with just a broken shoulder and nose


Was going to put it in over 18's but it's aimed at school children



Don't open the link if your a bit squeamish


BBC NEWS | Scotland | Footage shows boy hit by bus

WillowTheWhisp 05-09-2008 20:42

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Good grief what an absolutely stupid thing to do!

West Ender 05-09-2008 20:45

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The way the lad jumped over the barrier it was almost like watching a suicide bid. He's a very lucky boy - and a very stupid one.

BERNADETTE 05-09-2008 20:47

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The lad was very lucky there, just beyond me why they can't use the pelican crossing that was provided:confused:

Wynonie Harris 05-09-2008 20:59

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Suppose it's one way to stop a bus. Personally, I prefer to put my arm out.

Bonnyboy 05-09-2008 20:59

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No Pelican Crossing there Bernie, just a set of Traffic lights but with markings on the road for cyclists.


Maybe there should be a crossing with a main road being outside the school, then again there’s no accounting for gross stupidity.

BERNADETTE 05-09-2008 21:06

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Is that not a pelican crossing I can see?

WillowTheWhisp 05-09-2008 21:07

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I thought it was too. Anyway leaping over the barrier is stupid. Looks like he caught his foot in it and went headlong into the bus.

K.S.H 05-09-2008 21:13

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 627447)
Is that not a pelican crossing I can see?

Yes, it is
Bit of a funny one though as it only goes half way across the road, look carefully and you can see the 2 lights that pedestrians see ie red man/green man, and I "think" you can just make out the box with the button you press on the lights on the traffic island

Bonnyboy 05-09-2008 21:24

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 627450)
Yes, it is
Bit of a funny one though as it only goes half way across the road, look carefully and you can see the 2 lights that pedestrians see ie red man/green man, and I "think" you can just make out the box with the button you press on the lights on the traffic island

Yeah I can see the cowls covering the red and green men lights. Strange that it only gets you to the middle of the road, there’s no zig-zag markings either. Been some time since I saw a Highway Code, perhaps it’s a new sort of crossing with a different name. Possibly one of those Toucan Crossings.

BERNADETTE 05-09-2008 21:24

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 627450)
Yes, it is
Bit of a funny one though as it only goes half way across the road, look carefully and you can see the 2 lights that pedestrians see ie red man/green man, and I "think" you can just make out the box with the button you press on the lights on the traffic island

Strange that it only covers half of the road:confused: Seems like jumping over the barrier seems to appeal to a lot of the kids, maybe they will think twice now:)

Bonnyboy 05-09-2008 21:26

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 627456)
Strange that it only covers half of the road:confused: Seems like jumping over the barrier seems to appeal to a lot of the kids, maybe they will think twice now:)

Was there not a similar incident on Hyndburn Road not all that long ago :confused:

K.S.H 05-09-2008 21:28

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 627455)
Yeah I can see the cowls covering the red and green men lights. Strange that it only gets you to the middle of the road, there’s no zig-zag markings either

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 627456)
Strange that it only covers half of the road:confused:

Theres a lot like this up and down the country, main reason here I think is because there are two lanes on this side of the road, only one on the other side making crossing a lot safer.
Zig Zags - don't forget this is in Scotland, just because we have them in England doesn't mean they will have them in Scotland

BERNADETTE 05-09-2008 21:28

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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 627457)
Was there not a similar incident on Hyndburn Road not all that long ago :confused:

Yep there was near Asda, can't understand these kids:(

Neil 05-09-2008 22:06

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There are some other idiots stood in the bike lane as well. If they needed to move they can't because of the railings.

forceten 05-09-2008 22:08

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Maybe he was showing off infront of his friends? Maybe he had a disability in that he had no sense of danger?

No excuse I know, but I have a child who has no sense of danger and this is something that he would do. Which is why I have to know where he is and who he is with 24/7

It's not all just stupid kids you know.

Bonnyboy 05-09-2008 22:34

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 627478)
There are some other idiots stood in the bike lane as well. If they needed to move they can't because of the railings.

Is it a Toucan Crossing, do you know :confused:

Neil 06-09-2008 07:31

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Originally Posted by forceten (Post 627479)
It's not all just stupid kids you know.

Well I could see 4 stupid kids stood in the bus lane, 1 stupid kid who head butted a bus and another stupid kid who tried to jump over the fence but luckily for him, did not make it, he did see his mate head butt a bus which you don't see everyday.

derekgas 06-09-2008 08:03

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He seems to trip as he goes over the railing, he got off lucky, a second earlier and he would have been under the bus, is just a kids trick really, but you would think the school would have a teacher outside school to prevent things like this, they did when I went to school!

derekgas 06-09-2008 08:18

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It isnt a pelican crossing either, they are traffic lights, it is used to cross because the lights change regularly on timers!

K.S.H 06-09-2008 08:47

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 627537)
It isnt a pelican crossing either, they are traffic lights, it is used to cross because the lights change regularly on timers!

I'd disagree there, you can clearly see the the cowls on the lights, if they were traffic lights there would be three of them, theres only two though, these would be the green man-red man, if they are traffic lights who they pointing at, there well before the junction.
Don't think its a toucan, heres a pic of one Image:TUCANCrossing.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia notice the difference with the white lines

K.S.H 06-09-2008 09:05

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Heres a close up of one of the lights, notice the two cowls to the right and also the sensor on the top of the lights

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/a...1&d=1220691700

WillowTheWhisp 06-09-2008 09:48

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It's definitely not traffic lights because they are not at a road junction.

Neil 06-09-2008 09:52

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 627552)
It's definitely not traffic lights because they are not at a road junction.

So where are the cars turning right going :p

K.S.H 06-09-2008 09:53

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 627543)
if they are traffic lights who they pointing at, there well before the junction.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 627552)
It's definitely not traffic lights because they are not at a road junction.

Snap :D

K.S.H 06-09-2008 09:54

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 627556)
So where are the cars turning right going :p

The lights and crossing are well before the junction

Neil 06-09-2008 10:49

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Originally Posted by K.S.H (Post 627558)
The lights and crossing are well before the junction

The cars opposite are stopped at the lights for the same junction, if not then why are they all stopped and waiting? Yes the lights are a way from the junction but they are for that junction.

K.S.H 06-09-2008 11:58

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I'm not saying it's not a traffic controlled junction - it is, i'm trying to point out that the lights I have shown in the picture are pointing towards pedestrians that would be on the centre island and not to traffic coming out of the road you see to the right

MargaretR 06-09-2008 12:03

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It all boils down to Darwin's theory of evolution :D
We have developed to dominate all other species because of intelligence.
Anyone that thick gets weeded out early - 'survival of the fittest' applies.
He either 'learns' or acts stupid again -so preventing his genes from being passed to the next generation. :D

Neil 06-09-2008 13:09

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 627574)
Anyone that thick gets weeded out early - 'survival of the fittest' applies.
He either 'learns' or acts stupid again -so preventing his genes from being passed to the next generation. :D

We all do stupid things sometimes and make mistakes, a little bird told me even you did something stupid after an AccyWeb meet.

jambutty 06-09-2008 13:09

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There were traffic lights for that side of the road so that would indicate a pedestrian crossing of some sort. If you look further up the road just after where cars are turning right immediately after the end of the island the traffic coming towards us is stopped at traffic lights. You can just make out a traffic light on green on the island.

What about the guy walking on the road side of the railings as the bus came by and the 14 years old gave the bus a Glasgow Kiss? He just carried on walking across the road.

What grabbed my attention were the cars arriving at the scene. Quite rightly they stopped then as the car in the outside lane moved up a bit white van changed lanes. He obviously reasoned that the nearside lane would be blocked for a while and the outside lane would probably be the first to move, so he got over early. The ambulance and police would have a hard time getting to the scene and until the police did it would be gridlock on that side of the road.

The question is should the bus driver hop out of his cab and get the outside lane moving past the accident to give the emergency services a clear run if they would be coming from that direction? Or maybe a teacher if there was one there? Or even an adult attending to the victim. Or would that encourage drivers further back to switch lanes so that they would not be held up. No doubt many drivers would switch anyway with the nearside lane stopped.

Once it had been established that the victim was alive, breathing and in no further danger surely the next thing to do is to clear a path for the emergency services to the victim. I suppose that it would have been prudent to ask the driver of the car in the outside lane if he witnessed the incident and if he did ask him to pull up ahead of the bus to await the police. It is doubtful if any other driver apart from the driver of the blue car in the inside lane was a witness.

A “Toucan Crossing?” Does that mean that only two people can cross at a time.

Neil 06-09-2008 15:45

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