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Less 20-09-2008 15:26

What use is a Million pounds?
 
So, we hear that the 'Author' J K Rowling has generously donated £1,000,000 to the Labour party.

Harry Potter author JK Rowling gives £1 million to Labour - Telegraph

Oh Joy I thought until I saw how Labour in debt for 17.8 MILLION! Dont't plan to use the money to help pay of their debt, Oh, No, they will use it to:-

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allow the party to continue with its work.
Now I'm No Conservative, but a million pounds paid off a debt means I would at least be trying to straighten my economical deficit, that would suggest to me that I could perhaps trust Labour with my Country's Economy. I can't understand, however that they given the amount they owe can choose how the money is spent.

If it was you or I, the cheque would rightfully be swallowed paying off our debtor's, come on Labour of all the rubbish parties we have to choose from, I for one consider this is a shot in the foot!

Given the Economic climate it won't be long before you drag out the, 'work together, tighten our belts', Clichés, please, please, lead by example pay your debts.

WillowTheWhisp 20-09-2008 15:33

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It should go towards paying off their debt. What an irresponsible example to set for the rest of the country.

Tealeaf 20-09-2008 17:21

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J.K.Rowling was in receipt of unemployment benefit over a period of several years while she was busy writing the first of the Harry Potter novels. In other words, she was not available for employment and was thus involved in a fraudulent claim against the benefit office.

I would assume, therefore that the million quid this woman is forking out to the labour party is nowt less than a bribe to keep the long arm of the law away. If this government had any principles they would by now have brought her before a court of law, had her locked up and seized her assets - all six hundred million quid.

AccyLass 20-09-2008 17:23

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 633101)
J.K.Rowling was in receipt of unemployment benefit over a period of several years while she was busy writing the first of the Harry Potter novels. In other words, she was not available for employment and was thus involved in a fraudulent claim against the benefit office.

I would assume, therefore that the million quid this woman is forking out to the labour party is nowt less than a bribe to keep the long arm of the law away. If this government had any principles they would by now have brought her before a court of law, had her locked up and seized her assets - all six hundred million quid.


Or just ask her to pay it back


Would save the goverment a lot of money instead of dragging her through court and sending her to prison

emamum 20-09-2008 17:28

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 633101)
J.K.Rowling was in receipt of unemployment benefit over a period of several years while she was busy writing the first of the Harry Potter novels. In other words, she was not available for employment and was thus involved in a fraudulent claim against the benefit office.

I would assume, therefore that the million quid this woman is forking out to the labour party is nowt less than a bribe to keep the long arm of the law away. If this government had any principles they would by now have brought her before a court of law, had her locked up and seized her assets - all six hundred million quid.

what a load of rubbish!!

blazey 20-09-2008 20:09

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That is the most outrageous claim I've ever heard.

Writing the book didn't make her unavailable for employment, she was a single mum! She would have paid tax on the money she earned from publishing the book so I'm pretty sure she paid much more back in tax than she received in benefits.

Some people are just bitter.

As for the way Labour are choosing to spend the money, I think it could make sense because investment into other things could generate more money to pay off more of the debt...

...but investment doesn't seem like that brilliant of a thing right now so I wouldn't get my hopes up on that :p

I can't imagine wanting to give that kind of money to a political party. Bob Geldof and Bono are trying to save africa, amongst many other celebrities, and good old J K Rowling wants to save Labour. You couldn't make it up could you really.

MargaretR 20-09-2008 20:44

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Dame Rowling would look good on the next book cover

Benipete 20-09-2008 21:01

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 633151)
Dame Rowling would look good on the next book cover

Naughty Naughty.This is clearly a case of Gordon teaching the nation to be PRUDENT.Stuff the bills and use the money to find a new job.I wish him well.:alright::help:

jambutty 21-09-2008 15:28

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 633101)
J.K.Rowling was in receipt of unemployment benefit over a period of several years while she was busy writing the first of the Harry Potter novels. In other words, she was not available for employment and was thus involved in a fraudulent claim against the benefit office.

I would assume, therefore that the million quid this woman is forking out to the labour party is nowt less than a bribe to keep the long arm of the law away. If this government had any principles they would by now have brought her before a court of law, had her locked up and seized her assets - all six hundred million quid.

Absolute and total codswallop!

Neil 21-09-2008 21:38

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It might not be true but it does pose an interesting question.

If you write a book and then publish it to make money, which period of the writing/publishing/publicising etc do you class as working?

Surely the time spent writing the book must be classed as working if you get paid for it in the end.

Gayle 21-09-2008 22:05

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Perhaps she was writing in her spare time. The rest of the time she was officially unemployed.

I'm fairly sure she'll have come off the social after the first book so writing would have been her job after that.

West Ender 21-09-2008 22:16

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I have been writing a book for about 4 years. I write it when I have time to spare and the "muse" is on me.

If I ever finish it and submit it for publication, and if it is accepted and published, I might make some money from it. The money would be taxed in the year in which it was earned, i.e. the year when I received payment. Any time spent preparing the book for publication and payment could not be classed as "earning" time as there would be no reward during this period. Until such time as it became lucrative, which might be never, it could only be classed as a hobby.

Retlaw 21-09-2008 22:26

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Is that figure right, 600 million quid. How do you make that much from a series of books. If she maybe gets 1 quid or even 2 quid for every book sold, how does it come to 600 million, how many books has she actually sold, even film rights wouldn't bring it to that figure surely.

Retlaw.

Benipete 21-09-2008 23:27

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 633502)
Is that figure right, 600 million quid. How do you make that much from a series of books. If she maybe gets 1 quid or even 2 quid for every book sold, how does it come to 600 million, how many books has she actually sold, even film rights wouldn't bring it to that figure surely.

Retlaw.

Well.If she got £1 quid it would be 600 million But if she got £2 quid it would be 300 million.
Maths over for the day. - English next!!!!:confused::confused:

Benipete 21-09-2008 23:39

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 633519)
Well.If she got £1 quid it would be 600 million But if she got £2 quid it would be 300 million.
Maths over for the day. - English next!!!!:confused::confused:

Got that one wrong again:D

steeljack 22-09-2008 00:34

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this got me wondering ......anyone know how much do Writers get from Librarys , Rowling must have lost sales by her books being on Library shelves .....do they get any compensation for lost sales , or is there some sort of Law which says anything in print/ publication can be placed in a library for public use :confused:

Neil 22-09-2008 07:48

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 633488)
Perhaps she was writing in her spare time. The rest of the time she was officially unemployed.

I'm fairly sure she'll have come off the social after the first book so writing would have been her job after that.

But I only go to work in my spare time ;)

jaysay 22-09-2008 08:45

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 633521)
this got me wondering ......anyone know how much do Writers get from Librarys , Rowling must have lost sales by her books being on Library shelves .....do they get any compensation for lost sales , or is there some sort of Law which says anything in print/ publication can be placed in a library for public use :confused:

I'm not sure on this SJ, but I think there's something caled public lending rights, where the author gets a very small fee every time a book is borrowed, maybe somebody knows more about tis than me:confused:

jambutty 22-09-2008 11:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 633537)
I'm not sure on this SJ, but I think there's something caled public lending rights, where the author gets a very small fee every time a book is borrowed, maybe somebody knows more about tis than me:confused:

Try http://www.plr.uk.com/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Lending_Right

jaysay 22-09-2008 11:06

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 633561)

Thanks JB thought I'd heard about LR before, that confirms it:mosher:

WillowTheWhisp 22-09-2008 13:21

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Classic post Tealeaf! :D Of course she was still available for work. If she'd been called on she could have put her pen down at any time and picked it up again later on.

Tealeaf 22-09-2008 13:47

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It is no surprise that she has changed the details on her website/blog/biography. Once we had the story of how the benefits system left her so poor that she was unable to heat her flat, so she took herself and her baby down to a local cafe where she would keep warm and write her book during the day.. All that has now been dropped. What has also changed is her story of how the idea of Harry Potter came to her while on a train journey from Manchester to London Kings Cross.. Now that latter name has also been dropped, for obvious reasons.

Truth is often stranger than fiction.

cashman 22-09-2008 14:00

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633108)
what a load of rubbish!!

please enlighten us WHY?:confused:

emamum 22-09-2008 14:03

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp (Post 633587)
Classic post Tealeaf! :D Of course she was still available for work. If she'd been called on she could have put her pen down at any time and picked it up again later on.

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 633138)
That is the most outrageous claim I've ever heard.

Writing the book didn't make her unavailable for employment, she was a single mum! She would have paid tax on the money she earned from publishing the book so I'm pretty sure she paid much more back in tax than she received in benefits.

Some people are just bitter.

As for the way Labour are choosing to spend the money, I think it could make sense because investment into other things could generate more money to pay off more of the debt...

...but investment doesn't seem like that brilliant of a thing right now so I wouldn't get my hopes up on that :p

I can't imagine wanting to give that kind of money to a political party. Bob Geldof and Bono are trying to save africa, amongst many other celebrities, and good old J K Rowling wants to save Labour. You couldn't make it up could you really.

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 633390)
Absolute and total codswallop!

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 633478)
It might not be true but it does pose an interesting question.

If you write a book and then publish it to make money, which period of the writing/publishing/publicising etc do you class as working?

Surely the time spent writing the book must be classed as working if you get paid for it in the end.

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 633488)
Perhaps she was writing in her spare time. The rest of the time she was officially unemployed.

I'm fairly sure she'll have come off the social after the first book so writing would have been her job after that.

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 633497)
I have been writing a book for about 4 years. I write it when I have time to spare and the "muse" is on me.

If I ever finish it and submit it for publication, and if it is accepted and published, I might make some money from it. The money would be taxed in the year in which it was earned, i.e. the year when I received payment. Any time spent preparing the book for publication and payment could not be classed as "earning" time as there would be no reward during this period. Until such time as it became lucrative, which might be never, it could only be classed as a hobby.

all of the above....

cashman 22-09-2008 14:08

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633600)
all of the above....

ah not being a mindreader, n ya quoting tealeafs post i assumed you were saying that was a load of rubbish. all of the above were posted after that.

emamum 22-09-2008 14:09

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tealeafs post was rubbish......all the quoted posts agreed with me.

cashman 22-09-2008 14:35

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633603)
tealeafs post was rubbish......all the quoted posts agreed with me.

so you think she was available fer work, yet remained unemployed fer several years, THAT i think is rubbish.:rolleyes:

emamum 22-09-2008 14:54

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she had a young child.. thats why she stayed at home.

cashman 22-09-2008 14:58

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Originally Posted by emamum23 (Post 633610)
she had a young child.. thats why she stayed at home.

so have quite a few on here, but if needs must they work.

Benipete 22-09-2008 15:05

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 633614)
so have quite a few on here, but if needs must they work.

All this talk of work has made me tired.
Going back to bed:D

Less 22-09-2008 15:17

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I'm really glad I started the biggest thread wander on accyweb, strange how I was calling the labour party, perhaps this is all part of their plan?

I don't really mind, thanks to this thread I can now start my own multi-million business whilst claiming and no-one can touch me, I was/am doing it in my spare time!

(I expected our local Conservatives to be crowing about Labour being unable to manage funds not J K Rowling and her lucky break)

Life brings it's surprises!
:D

jaysay 22-09-2008 16:11

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 633617)
I'm really glad I started the biggest thread wander on accyweb, strange how I was calling the labour party, perhaps this is all part of their plan?

I don't really mind, thanks to this thread I can now start my own multi-million business whilst claiming and no-one can touch me, I was/am doing it in my spare time!

(I expected our local Conservatives to be crowing about Labour being unable to manage funds not J K Rowling and her lucky break)

Life brings it's surprises!
:D

Na Less who am I to rain on their parade:D

steeljack 22-09-2008 17:09

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 633561)

interesting , thanks for the links


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