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At last commonsense has prevailed and the Gurkhas have won their fight to stay in Britain. Hip Hip Hooray :D

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Here Here Good News For Once

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well that makes a change,not before time.:rolleyes:

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Great news, at last a bit of common sence, should never have got to this

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I hope they will be getting the full pension as well

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Agreed! And not before time too.

But they haven’t actually won anything except the right to seek a judicial review.

Now watch Labour try and wriggle out of it.

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The only real friends we ever had Nothing but the utmost respect for them.

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Agreed. This was only a test case for half a dozen Gurkhas.

Don't forget, this contemptible government had to be dragged to court to even get this far. In the weasel words of Jacqui Smith - the latest in a long line of incompetents to hold the Home Secretary's post - the Home Office will now review the other 2,000 cases. Obviously, if they had the slightest sense of decency, they would admit defeat gracefully and grant an automatic right to stay for these brave men. But they don't, so they'll look for other ways to slide out of it. Just watch. :(

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I'ts ironic that these fine people have been denied access to a life in the UK when our sworn enemies in two world wars (Now Europeans) are allowed in to work, live and do as they please.
I know who I would give my vote to.
I spent six years serving with these lads and never met one who I wouln't trust.....not only with my property......but with my life. :)

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agree with everything said before more power to them and good luck.

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My dad, god rest his soul, thought the gurkas were ultimate warriors from his time in WW2. he would be jumping on gordon brown's head if he was still alive.

stop chuffing around GB, sort it out!!!!!!

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think he would have to toss a coin wi mi dad n grandad ian.;) yet read yer post the other way, is gordon brown dead. pmsl.

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Look at this tribute:
See Gorkha, Gurkha army, kukri, khukuri, knives in action in gallery
Select No 5 picture.

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I hate to say I told you so...but I told you so.

BBC NEWS | UK | More Gurkhas can settle in the UK

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A bit of good news in the ever gloomy days of bad news

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Jaysay, read the small print, then tell me it's good news!

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I understand that only 100 of these lads will qualify under the new criteria.
45000 of these lads lost for their lives in the service of this country.
Disgusting and typical of this awful bunch of incompetants.

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disgraceful but unsurprising.:rolleyes:

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Sorry Wynonie, I just read your post and didn't think they could be so crass, saw Joanna Lumley on TV this morning and she was optimistic, would appear that they can't get anything right, but they are only to willing to let so called asylum seekers stay here even if there application is refused. just wish I was 40 years younger I'd be joining Eric in Canada this country's shot at

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How right you were with the last comment,makes me ashamed to be British.:mad::mad:

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Knew this would happen with this set of deceitful, headline-spinning nonentities.

BBC NEWS | UK | Fury over Gurkha settlement plan

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this is a great reason to vote conservative! ya only see what ya want to see.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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I agree with the solicitors comment "they should hang their heads in shame"

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You stop it off:D

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John..................you must get a new keyboard. :)

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I am with that comment.

Sadley though the administration is so wired up to cloud cukoo land and suported by the airy fairy brigade that they would walk around with there heads held high. Add to that the worst case of selective deafness around and we are in the poo poo. They were quite happy to have the gurkas bolster the British army but when it comes to the crunch they are treated like the dog muck on the bottem of their highly polished, expensive shoes.

What do they think the gurkha's of the past were military slaves, convinient cannon fodder or both? Let them the pre "97" troops have the same rights that Commonwealth troops are afforded. The fact that they were based in Hong Kong has in my oppinion nothing to do with the issue as Hong Kong was a Crown colony protectorate or whatever it was and therefore British. Would they do that to any soldier that had been based at Gib if Gib was handed back to Spain?

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Sorry, dont celebrate yet.
The news only applies to men with 20 years or more service.
The ordinary Gurkha can only achieve 15 years so it does not apply to them.
Yes, it should apply to all Gurkhas,not just officers.

Any British soldier will tell you the worth of Johhny Gurkha.

We have a lot to be thankful for.

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To the above point how many officers are Gurkha as oppossed to British Officers? Think its a case of one of the largest body swerves around!!!!

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Another great cock up by Brown and his cronies...deserving people don't get anything - disgraceful!!

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this has been going on for years...until the Tories were kicked out in 1997 Ghurkars did not have the right to reside in the UK... the law was changed by this government to allow Ghurkas this right... but it was not retrospective and so those who left the armed forces before 1998 did not get the same rights... which is wrong and the Government should not oppose any Ghurkas having the right to live here.

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true it is disgraceful, but they got EVEN LESS under the torys, summat ya all neglect to mention, except mancie.

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Fair enough, Mancie. Must admit I hadn't thought about that. Wondered why the Tories were being so quiet about it!

However, all the more reason for this present lot to right past wrongs and restore just a little bit of this country's honour!

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I don't see this as a party political issue but a matter of right and wrong.It's time these brave men were given their just rewards for their service to this country.

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Irrespective of rights or wrongs from the past, the present government don't seem to have a problem with an open door policy for everybody else in the world and even put their rights before the indigenous population

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simple solution, throw ALL Illegals out, Let all Gurkhas in, not rocket science, just about guts to do it.:(

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It might be a problem with all these human rites lawyers making millions out of keeping them here cashy, can't be cutting off their cash cow can we:(

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Well chuck them out wi em. make a bit more room.:D;)

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Hear, hear sir, spoken like a true gent, never thought of that:D

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i find it ironic that we allow peopel in who bring nothing to this country and contribute even less yet demand we change our ways to suit them yet when it comes to people who supported us and died for us we treat them so badly

are the gurkhas sure they want to be british citizens because we are at the bottom of the list when it comes to priorities

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We, the taxpayer keep the miscreants like Chindamo Learco(who murdered a headmaster),Abu Qatada........a whole bunch of Eastern European criminals(whose names I can't spell.....but came to this country with the express desire to commit crime and get a prison sentence, have a cushy life paying nowt, while learning English).....these aforementioned folks have no respect for the British, have not improved British life, have given nothing of themselves........we can take these folk in.
But the Gurkhas who have fought for the British cause over the years can be treated in such an appalling manner........the politicians who are responsible for this travesty should hang their heads in shame.....except that shame is a concept with which they are unfamiliar.

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Why was it not reprospective? Labour have had 12 years to right the situation but have declined......You have habit of blaming Maggie for all that is out of order in today's society.
Maggie would call a spade a spade............you can't do that now. :mad:

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I don't think anyone can now and I certainly wouldn't risk it where Mancie is.
:eek::eek::D

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No pasa nada Theo. :)

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its not a case of blaming maggie, but what i would love to know is were you 2 slagging the torys when they were in power fer doing sod all? somehow i doubt it.:rolleyes:

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I quite often spoke out against the Tory Government cashy, especially over the Community Charge, of which I said that the concept was good but the implementation was crap, if the charge had have been set at £50 per head ( but still with benefits for the less well off) I don't think anybody would have objected, but at near £300 per head it was scandalous

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was refering to admitting the gurkhas john, have no doubt ya slagged em fer other things.:)

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Ow'ed on a bit.................the answer to that as far as I am concerned is yes. I would slag anyone I thought was a prat and I did............The Tory's spent years trying to right the wrongs of the Labour Goverment before the emergence of Maggie.
I will probably get slated for this, but here goes.
Taxpayers were losing money hand over fist keeping the railways alive as with the mines, millions of pounds lost and subsadised , not by the government but the taxpayer.
Easy money from the IMF was not available then as the country was still paying off its debts for the second world war.
The country was on the verge of bankrupcy as it is today under a labour government......spending money you have not got is why we are in this mess now.
Some of us chose to call the Americans but if they had called the debt that was due to them on the due date, we would have been in deep crap.

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like i said to jaysay,i don't doubt that, i was refering to the plight of the gurkhas.

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I think I was too.............but twelve years on and nothing.
The plight of the Gurhas is ongoing and there is no excuse for the current labour government to ignore the claim of these gallant men.
If GB can borrow money to keep the high paid nabobs of the civil service, then surely he can this situation on board.......probably I'ts beyond his Ken?

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i don't think ya was so i'll put it in plain english- were you slagging the tories back then fer completely ignoring the gurkhas? i have already said no excuse fer this governments disgraceful attempt. but at least they have made a start, abject as it is. Maggie did NOWT at all.:rolleyes:

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it will be very interesting, hope some good will come of it at the end of the day, my cynicism doubts it though.

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It is good to hear that all is not lost Greg. Power to your elbow.
I hope that we can see sense and let these brave men have the hospitality of our country....and chuck some of the other layabouts over the hedge

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Got this e-mail yesterday if anyone would like to sign the on-line petition

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Subject: Gurkha Justice Campaign update from Joanna Lumley

> Thank you so much for your support of the Gurkha Justice campaign. We are
> overwhelmed by the support the campaign is receiving.
>
> As you may know, on Friday, the Government badly let down the Gurkhas. The
> new rules they have announced will exclude the huge majority of ex-Gurkhas
> who retired before 1997 from claiming citizenship in this country.
> They've given five bullet points that virtually cannot be met by the
> ordinary Gurkha soldier.
>
> It is so obvious that the treatment of the Gurkhas has been a great
> injustice. To treat them like this is despicable.
>
> The strong reaction by the public and press should show the Government
> that they simply cannot get away with this outrage.
>
> I'm ashamed of our adminstration. We will be challenging this decision in
> the courts and in Parliament. We will not stop now.
>
> This is not a party political campaign: it's simply one for justice. I am
> so grateful though for immediate support from MPs from all Parties,
> including amongst others Conservative leader David Cameron and Lib Dem
> Leader Nick Clegg.
>
> Nick Clegg has agreed to put a vote to Parliament this Wednesday calling
> for a fair deal for Gurkhas. This vote on its own won't change the
> Government's ruling, but would be an overwhelming signal to the Government
> that they need to think again.
>
> We need all MPs that support the Gurkha justice cause to turn up and vote
> for a proper deal for Gurkhas on Wednesday. Can I ask that you take a
> couple of minutes right now to ask your MP to do so?
>
> You can send a message to your MP directly at http://www.theyworkforyou.com
> please ask them to support the Gurkha Justice motion on Wednesday.
>
> On Wednesday, there will also be a Gurkha Justice rally and protest
> against the Government's decision, starting at noon in Old Palace Yard,
> Westminster. Many MPs have already committed to support the vote and join
> me and others at the rally. I know it's awfully short notice, but if you
> can, please do come along as well to add your support.
>
> If you can pass on this message to others as well that would be fabulous -
> and if they sign up to www.gurkhajustice.org.uk we can keep in touch with
> them directly in future.
>
> Lastly, again, thank you so much for your support. It means so much to us.
> I spoke today to Lt Madan Kumar Gurung, who has been at the forefront of
> the campaign since it began. He said to me that he has no fear for the
> Gurkhas any more, as he knows the loving hearts of the British people will
> not let them down. With your support we won't.
>
> With warmest good wishes,
>
> Joanna
>www.gurkhajustice.org.uk

>

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wlmailhtml is not a registered protocol. is all i get when i click yer link.:confused:

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Sorry cashy.......just put it in as I got it :(

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perhaps that nice mick will know whats the score?;):)

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Ok lynx have edited your post the links now work

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I think this is what Greg was refering to in his post.

BBC NEWS | Politics | MPs urged to change Gurkha rules

Good luck to them.

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told ya he was a nice man lynx,:D cheers sorted now.:)

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Thanks mick :D

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Never mind thanks Mick,knock a few of his thumps off the list.:hitting8:

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don't know if I can do that :D......You'll do owt to spoil my fun :D

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Hopefully, the government will get the message now!

BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown defeated over Gurkha rules

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Don't hold your breath Wynonie, you know Brown only has two rules
Rule 1 Gordon Brown is always right
Rule 2 If Gordon Brown is proved wrong Rule 1 applies:rolleyes:

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And he has said it will cost too much money to let these men stay in this country, yet we can keep the criminals that come over here......what a disgrace.

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they won today government lost by 21 vote's but still not law ? when will they understand what the public want !!!!

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it could never have become law today, as you are probably well aware, laws have never been changed DIRECTLY after ANY vote.:rolleyes:

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Yesterday saw the first defeat of a Government since James Callaghan lost a vote on a referendum on Scottish Devolution, leading to losing a vote of no confidence on the 28th March 1979 which saw the fall of the Labour Government

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Sadly not in this case, abhorrent behaviour from the MOD, especially as one of these lads was killed only the other week. Fighting for a Country they have given their loyalty to, in a war not of their choosing but due to the pride of these people they'll dig in & get on. Disgusting

Gurkha veterans lose pensions appeal battle - Home News, UK - The Independent