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katex 18-10-2008 13:07
Cutlery manners ?
 
I am guilty of this, and noticed two separate scenes on 'Corrie' last night where everyone was eating just with their forks, and not sliding onto the back of your fork with a knife as I have always been taught. I think far more sensible anyway ... this is the American way, and looks like we are being influenced.

Like using your soup spoon away from you to scoop up the contents; doesn't make sense, has further to travel to yer gob, and tipping the plate towards the centre of the table to grab those last remaining drops. Of course, would do this when out dining, but never at home now ... probably tip the plate directly into my mouth anyway ..:D

Loved the bit where 'Kevin' was making a stew butty.

AccyLass 18-10-2008 13:12
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Elbows off the table and all that
My girl tells me about that (cos of Nanna) :rolleyes:
I tell her this is OUR house! Not ya Nanna's lol

I don't mind how things get eaten as long as they use a knife and fork and don't chew with their mouth open!

emzy 18-10-2008 13:25
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I am bad for eating off my knee when eating alone (well, using a plate but on my knee not at the table) but I got confused when eating out when there was more than one knife and fork lol

jaysay 18-10-2008 13:43
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642301)
I am guilty of this, and noticed two separate scenes on 'Corrie' last night where everyone was eating just with their forks, and not sliding onto the back of your fork with a knife as I have always been taught. I think far more sensible anyway ... this is the American way, and looks like we are being influenced.

Like using your soup spoon away from you to scoop up the contents; doesn't make sense, has further to travel to yer gob, and tipping the plate towards the centre of the table to grab those last remaining drops. Of course, would do this when out dining, but never at home now ... probably tip the plate directly into my mouth anyway ..:D

Loved the bit where 'Kevin' was making a stew butty.
Knife kate, whats one of those:D

katex 18-10-2008 14:07
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 642313)
Knife kate, whats one of those:D
Well would need one to cut yer steak Jaysay, but the trend is now to cut, disperse with knife and just use fork to spear and enter into your jaws.

Know we have had threads like this before, but wonder if it is time to assess our cutlery etiquette for more sensible guidelines .. I mean, teaching a child how to use a knife and fork 'properly' takes hours of practice.

Know what you mean Accylass re. mouth open .. my son was regularly getting chastised off daughter for this when he was little. Mind you, even now, eats food far too quick so reckon never gets time to shut his mouth. Daughter once had to give him the Heimlich Manoeuvre .. due to not chewing long enough ... not like there is any pack competition... :rolleyes:

jaysay 18-10-2008 14:25
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642324)
Well would need one to cut yer steak Jaysay, but the trend is now to cut, disperse with knife and just use fork to spear and enter into your jaws.

Know we have had threads like this before, but wonder if it is time to assess our cutlery etiquette for more sensible guidelines .. I mean, teaching a child how to use a knife and fork 'properly' takes hours of practice.

Know what you mean Accylass re. mouth open .. my son was regularly getting chastised off daughter for this when he was little. Mind you, even now, eats food far too quick so reckon never gets time to shut his mouth. Daughter once had to give him the Heimlich Manoeuvre .. due to not chewing long enough ... not like there is any pack competition... :rolleyes:
Good heavens kate you mean you can afford steak:eek:. but seriously know exactly what you mean, its a while snce I went out to dine, but many a time you would see youngsters just using there fork, infact I was looking through a catalogue only this week and there was an item in it call forknife, it was a fork with one edge sharpened like a knife, and hats the gospel truth, so where is it going to end:eek:

BERNADETTE 18-10-2008 14:34
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I always use a knife and fork when eating:) Don't like the sound of that forknife think it could be dangerous:(

Morecambe Ex Pat 18-10-2008 14:38
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Cavemen used to rip their food apart and then eat it. Since we became 'civilised' it has become customary to use tools to eat food. I was always taught, cut with your knife and eat with your fork and continue to do just that.
When it comes to table manners though, the incorrect use of tools is insignificant when you are seated with people who are unable to eat anything without slurping, sniffing and sloshing food round their mouth as they carry on a conversation.

West Ender 18-10-2008 14:47
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I use a knife and fork - the English way - most of the time but if I'm eating pasta, at home or in a restaurant, I don't use a knife. That would be pointless (no pun meant). We always sit at the table for meals and I'm a bit particular about table manners but that doesn't mean mealtimes aren't relaxed and sociable occasions. Oh, and I've eaten a stew buttie before now. :p

garinda 18-10-2008 14:51
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It's only the middle classes in Victorian society that became so uptight about table manners. The aristocracy and the peasants didn't care how their food got to their bellies, just as long as it did get there.

Nancy Mitford was most scathing about fish knives, and they are still classed in the same catagory as saying 'serviette' instead of napkin, by most modern day society Nancies.

Because my dominant hand is more or less useless, a friend bought me a Knork. A good idea in theory, but it's very heavy, and I can manage just as well with an ordinary fork.:)

Knork Flatware » Home

katex 18-10-2008 14:58
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Do put my elbows on the table when out ... good to have them slightly apart, hands together to give a bridge for your chin to rest on to look seductively at your escort (not that I have had the opportunity for some time like :() :D

Caz 18-10-2008 15:08
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Remember these? :)

combination of all three, very popular in the 70s

MargaretR 18-10-2008 15:13
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 642361)
It's only the middle classes in Victorian society that became so uptight about table manners. The aristocracy and the peasants didn't care how their food got to their bellies, just as long as it did get there.

Nancy Mitford was most scathing about fish knives, and they are still classed in the same catagory as saying 'serviette' instead of napkin, by most modern day society Nancies.

Because my dominant hand is more or less useless, a friend bought me a Knork. A good idea in theory, but it's very heavy, and I can manage just as well with an ordinary fork.:)

Knork Flatware » Home
I am glad you posted that link - I am going to get one.
I have hardly any grip in my left hand and am prone to fork dropping

garinda 18-10-2008 15:17
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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 642375)
I am glad you posted that link - I am going to get one.
I have hardly any grip in my left hand and am prone to fork dropping
It's worth a try Margaret. You're supposed to rock them to cut, which I can't do with my left hand.

Let us know how you get on with it.:)

West Ender 18-10-2008 15:19
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I don't think elbows on the table is so bad at all, as long as they're not right across it or spreading close to your neighbour's plate - or in his soup. I don't get in a stew (:rolleyes:) if you eat with just your fork, at my table, as long as you don't wave it around and/or splatter your food around.

Table manners, to me, involve not reaching across people for salt and pepper etc., not leaving the table while others are still eating, not carrying on a conversation with a mouth stuffed with food and, most definitely, not chewing so that anyone else can either see or hear what you're eating. If you're eating with me - button your lip. :D

katex 18-10-2008 15:22
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 642387)
It's worth a try Margaret. You're supposed to rock them to cut, which I can't do with my left hand.

Let us know how you get on with it.:)
But you eat with your fork with the right hand in this new culture ...unless you are left-handed of course.

Are there left handed/right handed ones ? The picture looks like made for right handed people.

garinda 18-10-2008 15:28
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642397)
But you eat with your fork with the right hand in this new culture ...unless you are left-handed of course.

Are there left handed/right handed ones ? The picture looks like made for right handed people.
Lol, I've just had to go and root in the cutlery drawer to check.

It has two sharp edges, so I suspect it's for either hand.

I'm naturally right handed, but have to use my left hand now.

Brute force, and an ordinary fork, works for me, without all that rockin' 'n' rollin' you need to do with a Knork.:D

katex 18-10-2008 16:08
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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 642391)
not carrying on a conversation with a mouth stuffed with food :D
Isn't it awful though when you try and time conversation, you make a remark, put food in your mouth, then your other diner says "Pardon ?".

Sparkologist 18-10-2008 16:50
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My question is: In which hand should I hold a trench spade when eating, as I find this the quickest & most efficient way of clearing my plate. :D

P.S. Should one cock one's pinky finger whilst eating with this piece of hardware. :rolleyes:

emamum 18-10-2008 16:53
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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 642461)
P.S. Should one cock one's pinky finger whilst eating with this piece of hardware. :rolleyes:
not at the dinnertable please!

mrskitty 18-10-2008 17:19
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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 642308)
I got confused when eating out when there was more than one knife and fork lol

I was taught 'from the outside in', that is to use the cutlery from the outside first and then use the next ones for main etc...

My parents are from two very different social backgrounds so one side are extremely strict when it comes to table manners and the other side don't give two hoots.....my nan (on the 'bad side' as i used to say) used to read magazines whilst she was eating her dinner once everyone else had left the table!

West Ender 18-10-2008 18:46
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642450)
Isn't it awful though when you try and time conversation, you make a remark, put food in your mouth, then your other diner says "Pardon ?".

I make 'em wait until I've swallowed it. If they've any sense they'll see my jaws moving and prefer not to risk being sprayed. :D

david1 18-10-2008 20:05
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Like using your soup spoon away from you to scoop up the contents; doesn't make sense, has further to travel to yer gob, and tipping the plate towards the centre of the table to grab those last remaining drops. Of course, would do this when out dining, but never at home now ... probably tip the plate directly into my mouth anyway .


This has come from when you are onboard a ship, If the ship rocks from side to side as they do , the person who will get hit with the soup is the person facing you and not yourself . Thats why you tip it away from you .

flashy 18-10-2008 20:18
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this thread takes me back to when i first met Reece's gran (his dads mum)
she had never ever been into McDonalds before, i ordered her meal, took it over to her and she asked me 'where are the knives and forks?'

i couldnt stop giggling for ages :D

steeljack 18-10-2008 20:27
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It seems Accrington is the home of Splades and Sporks :eek: :eek:

Splades-Sporks

flashy 18-10-2008 20:38
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£3.95 each? kin ell


lol

steeljack 18-10-2008 20:49
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 642522)
£3.95 each? kin ell


lol
didn't check the price :D , I was imagining about £2 for 100 , (cheap injection molded plastic ) who apart from baby stuff uses plastic cutlery more than once :eek:

ANNE 18-10-2008 21:27
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We dont sit at the table to eat, these day's and I love stew butties. yummm

WillowTheWhisp 18-10-2008 21:38
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Those plastic sporks are supposed to be for camping. They are an ideal all in one piece of cutlery to put in your backpack with the little camping stove and mess tins. (we've got orange) We have some of those triangular stainless steal splayds too. Had them for years. They make great cake forks and are very good for scooping up peas. I can never see the logic of trying to balance peas on the back of a fork. I used to hate eating peas as a child when my mother insisted they should be transported to my mouth on the back of the fork.

As for spooning soup from the back of the bowl I was always told that was so that any drip underneath the spoon had the opportunity to fall into the bowl as the spoon passed over it and not end up down your front.

emamum 18-10-2008 21:41
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i eat my peas with honey
i've done it all my life
it makes the peas taste funny
but it keeps them on my knife

junetta 18-10-2008 22:44
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For the past two years we have been invited to a mate's house for Xmas dinner. They have an eight year-old daughter who eats with her fingers and never closes her mouth when eating. I found the whole thing pretty disgusting. My children and grandchildren have always been taught table manners as my parents taught me.

I overheard someone inviting them for dinner this year and we weren't included. Thank goodness for that!

Bonnyboy 18-10-2008 23:08
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Slightly off topic but still about cutlery and prompted by the Knork post earlier. If you have to purchase such items try a site like this - Disabled Accessories

They should ask if you are on any disability benefit, in receipt of carers allowance etc. If they don’t and you are then tell them, such products are VAT exempt. ;)

katex 18-10-2008 23:33
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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 642461)
My question is: In which hand should I hold a trench spade when eating, as I find this the quickest & most efficient way of clearing my plate. :D
A JCB digger would not be big enough for you Sparkolgist ! ... Looked at his plate piled up tonight ... exclaimed 'Gosh' .. reply was "eaten half of it already" .. Lettie: sure he has got a tapeworm ..can't keep that sort of figure scoffing all that, must get plenty of exercise .. LOL.

Bonnyboy 19-10-2008 00:03
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I dint put the flippin link into my previous post, too late to edit. Sorry.

Here it is - Disabled Accessories

Studio25 19-10-2008 02:23
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Originally Posted by david1 (Post 642516)
Like using your soup spoon away from you to scoop up the contents; doesn't make sense, has further to travel to yer gob, and tipping the plate towards the centre of the table to grab those last remaining drops.....
I always understood it to be that you eat from the "far end" of the plate to minimise the chance of getting scalding hot mushroom soup dripping on your gonads. Scooping from the edge of the plate instead of the middle is supposedly for the same reason (the edge of the bowl is cooler than the middle).

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Originally Posted by mrskitty (Post 642474)
...my nan (on the 'bad side' as i used to say) used to read magazines whilst she was eating her dinner once everyone else had left the table!
Your nan did exactly the right thing. Manners are there for public consumption. When you're alone- do whatever you want, nobody will complain.

It's only a problem when, as in Junetta's post, you have one parent who is militant about kids eating with their mouth open and another who thinks they should do what they want as long as they get the balanced diet.

jambutty 19-10-2008 05:40
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642362)
Do put my elbows on the table when out ... good to have them slightly apart, hands together to give a bridge for your chin to rest on to look seductively at your escort (not that I have had the opportunity for some time like :() :D
Wow! How do you manage to get the arresting police officer to take you out to dinner?

jaysay 19-10-2008 09:11
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Originally Posted by Sparkologist (Post 642461)
My question is: In which hand should I hold a trench spade when eating, as I find this the quickest & most efficient way of clearing my plate. :D

P.S. Should one cock one's pinky finger whilst eating with this piece of hardware. :rolleyes:
No Sparks, you only cock your pinky finger when drinking from a bucket:D

jaysay 19-10-2008 09:20
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Originally Posted by Bonnyboy (Post 642587)
I dint put the flippin link into my previous post, too late to edit. Sorry.

Here it is - Disabled Accessories
Your theory may not be that daft really BB, I know that all the medical equipment that I purchase is VAT exempt, if its for personal use. I'm nearly sure that if say a doctor, buys the same equipment for use in the surgery it is subject to VAT:confused:

Lilly 19-10-2008 21:05
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Originally Posted by flashytart (Post 642518)
this thread takes me back to when i first met Reece's gran (his dads mum)
she had never ever been into McDonalds before, i ordered her meal, took it over to her and she asked me 'where are the knives and forks?'

i couldnt stop giggling for ages :D
Ha haaaa....how funny!

When I was a child and McDonalds first opened in Accy I asked my Grandma to take me there in the school holidays when she was looking after me. She had never been in a McDonalds before.

We went in, she told me to sit down and save the seats whilst she went to the counter. When she came back with the food on the tray she said 'oh I've not got knives and forks, I'll go and get some.'

She was horrified when I said there aren't any knives and forks here.

She said 'well how are we meant to eat this then? With our fingers?' :eek:

The look on her face when I said yes was hilarious...I thought she was going to collapse! :D

jaysay 20-10-2008 09:31
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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 642818)
Ha haaaa....how funny!

When I was a child and McDonalds first opened in Accy I asked my Grandma to take me there in the school holidays when she was looking after me. She had never been in a McDonalds before.

We went in, she told me to sit down and save the seats whilst she went to the counter. When she came back with the food on the tray she said 'oh I've not got knives and forks, I'll go and get some.'

She was horrified when I said there aren't any knives and forks here.

She said 'well how are we meant to eat this then? With our fingers?' :eek:

The look on her face when I said yes was hilarious...I thought she was going to collapse! :D
Ya Lilly we're like that us old uns:D I can honestly say I've never been in a McDonalds, but I did an occasional Wimpy bar years ago;)

katex 20-10-2008 10:09
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 642596)
Wow! How do you manage to get the arresting police officer to take you out to dinner?
The Last Supper ? :D

Do enjoy eating with my fingers ... and who eats chips with a knife and fork .. just not the same is it !

jaysay 20-10-2008 10:56
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642900)
The Last Supper ? :D

Do enjoy eating with my fingers ... and who eats chips with a knife and fork .. just not the same is it !
I was miffed when they stopped using news paper to wrap your supper up on the way home from the pub:rolleyes:

jambutty 20-10-2008 12:43
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Originally Posted by katex (Post 642900)
The Last Supper ? :D

Do enjoy eating with my fingers ... and who eats chips with a knife and fork .. just not the same is it !
Once in a while I will make myself a late night snack of just a plate of chips (cooked in beef dripping) with salt and vinegar and a chunk of sharp cheese, but I use a fork rather than fingers.

It stops the remote from getting greasy.

katex 20-10-2008 15:42
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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 642927)
Once in a while I will make myself a late night snack of just a plate of chips (cooked in beef dripping) with salt and vinegar and a chunk of sharp cheese, but I use a fork rather than fingers.

It stops the remote from getting greasy.
Ha ha Jambutty, know what you mean .. just eaten a toasted hot cross bun lashed with butter and lemon curd ... me mouse pointer is hurtling all over my screen ...:D

Sparkologist 20-10-2008 16:15
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 642604)
No Sparks, you only cock your pinky finger when drinking from a bucket:D
Oh ******, that's where I've been going wrong all these years.

If I can find a picture of my glass bucket, I'll post a picture. :D


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