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jaysay 29-10-2008 16:10

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We've got to remember that besides the 50 journos that already work for the Beeb over the pond, they are sending over another 100 to cover the Presidential elections next week, why. don't know about anybody else but I'm fed up with the whole circus that is American politics, our system may not be to every ones liking, but I'd sooner have ours than theirs any day

jambutty 29-10-2008 17:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645529)
Perhaps basic mathematics has moved on somewhat, since it was taught using slates and chalk.

It's common practice, for ease of reading, that figures above .5 are rounded up, and below that are rounded down to the nearest whole number.

Thus the findings, of this, and other more recent polls, are accurate.

Know-it-all garinda was privy to the actual figures and jumps to the conclusion that some of them have been rounded up or down.

By the way round up occurs at 0.5 and above not above 0.5.

andybrown_10 29-10-2008 17:25

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i think the fee should be scrapped, i've never had to pay it, but i'd rather read the paper, do you have to have a license to listen to the radio?

jambutty 29-10-2008 17:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 645567)
We've got to remember that besides the 50 journos that already work for the Beeb over the pond, they are sending over another 100 to cover the Presidential elections next week, why. don't know about anybody else but I'm fed up with the whole circus that is American politics, our system may not be to every ones liking, but I'd sooner have ours than theirs any day

And that is a case against the BBC spending not the TV licence.

garinda 29-10-2008 17:40

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645587)
And that is a case against the BBC spending not the TV licence.

Who receive their funding from us, the licence payers.

jaysay 30-10-2008 09:18

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645587)
And that is a case against the BBC spending not the TV licence.

Now hang on a minute here, you mean I've got to the age of 62 and haven't realised that the BBC don't get their funding from the licence fee, I'm so shocked I'm going to have a stiff whiskey to calm me down:confused:

jambutty 30-10-2008 09:44

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 645592)
Who receive their funding from us, the licence payers.

The BBC is funded by the TAXPAYER, which will also include licence payers and those who do not buy a TV licence. It also includes tourists who buy goods and services here.

Every few years the BBC negotiates with the government what funding it will receive for the next few years.

andrewb 30-10-2008 09:54

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The BBC is funded directly by the licence fee. BBC World Service is funded by a government grant.

Benipete 30-10-2008 10:49

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 645715)
The BBC is funded directly by the licence fee. BBC World Service is funded by a government grant.

I'm sure last time a watched BBC world in Spain they showed adverts as well.:confused:

jambutty 30-10-2008 12:10

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 645715)
The BBC is funded directly by the licence fee. BBC World Service is funded by a government grant.

Congratulations on being made “Administrator”.

Although there is a link between the TV licence and BBC funding, BBC funding is not dependant on how many licences are sold. The funding is set by the government and is guaranteed by Royal Charter and fixed at regular and infrequent intervals. The government off-sets this expenditure by gathering the TV licence fee.

The BBC is charged with the task of issuing the TV licence, collecting the fees and keeping track of who does and does not have a TV licence when they should have one to conform with the law. A separate department under the BBC umbrella carries out this task.

The annual BBC funding is currently some £4.3 billion. The current colour TV licence is £139.50. To generate £4.3 billion by the licence fee alone, some 31 million TV licences would have to be sold.

With a population of some 60 million in the UK there are probably in the region of 15 million domestic properties, although 10 million is a more likely figure. Chuck in a few more million for pubs, clubs, hotels etc and even with 20 million domestic properties it still wouldn’t reach 31 million.

The BBC generates extra revenue by the sale of the programmes that it makes and pays tax on the proceeds.

If by some major miracle everyone decided not to renew their TV licence it would not affect the BBC funding at all until the next revue. Similarly if the BBC suddenly ceased to exist we would still be required to have a TV licence.

Neil 30-10-2008 17:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 645705)
Now hang on a minute here, you mean I've got to the age of 62 and haven't realised that the BBC don't get their funding from the licence fee, I'm so shocked I'm going to have a stiff whiskey to calm me down:confused:

Why not have a red wine instead :D

Morecambe Ex Pat 31-10-2008 07:52

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In the early days, the licence fee was to pay for and maintain the numerous transmitters for both radio & TV and to fund the operation of a TV channel and several radio services.

Over the years the BBC has taken on a life of its own and the small licence fee has had to be increased substantially to pay for the many additional services it now offers. Just how they justify exhorbitant contracts to tempt 'popular' celebs on to the network is a major issue. Recent events have shown that the BBC is run by indecisive management and only public pressure forced them to act.

I always thought that making indecent phone calls was a criminal offence or have the mamby pamby PC brigade made upsetting others, acceptable too.

I quite like Jonathan Ross as a radio broadcaster but there is no place on Radio 2 for radical presenters to do their 'own thing'. Should Radio 2 stick with the likes of Wogan, Bruce, Evans and Wright? I say yes, let the weird and wacky find radio work elsewhere and leave Radio 2 to churn out good middle of the road entertainment for which they are best known.

grannyclaret 31-10-2008 09:01

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SCRAP THE LICENCE



AND WHILE YOUR AT IT



SCRAP THE B.B.C.

jaysay 31-10-2008 09:56

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 645814)
Why not have a red wine instead :D

Whiskey, Red Wine, White Wine, Rose theres no colour bar in my house Neil:D but I know where your coming from;)

andrewb 31-10-2008 11:31

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 645753)
Congratulations on being made “Administrator”.

Although there is a link between the TV licence and BBC funding, BBC funding is not dependant on how many licences are sold. The funding is set by the government and is guaranteed by Royal Charter and fixed at regular and infrequent intervals. The government off-sets this expenditure by gathering the TV licence fee.

The BBC is charged with the task of issuing the TV licence, collecting the fees and keeping track of who does and does not have a TV licence when they should have one to conform with the law. A separate department under the BBC umbrella carries out this task.

The annual BBC funding is currently some £4.3 billion. The current colour TV licence is £139.50. To generate £4.3 billion by the licence fee alone, some 31 million TV licences would have to be sold.

With a population of some 60 million in the UK there are probably in the region of 15 million domestic properties, although 10 million is a more likely figure. Chuck in a few more million for pubs, clubs, hotels etc and even with 20 million domestic properties it still wouldn’t reach 31 million.

The BBC generates extra revenue by the sale of the programmes that it makes and pays tax on the proceeds.

If by some major miracle everyone decided not to renew their TV licence it would not affect the BBC funding at all until the next revue. Similarly if the BBC suddenly ceased to exist we would still be required to have a TV licence.

The £4.3billion figure is from the whole of the BBC. That is licence fee, commercial revenue and world service. The BBC that we view on tv etc is fully funded by the licence fee. The BBC need government approval when setting the licence fee. However at the end of the day the licence is collected and used by the BBC, if the BBC didn't exist anymore, we would not be paying the licence fee because we don't pay it to the government, we pay it to the BBC.


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