Re: Avenue Parade N.I.M.B.Y. Slimeballs
 

I do have a treatment facility on my doorstep ... well, almost; it's a 3 min. walk away ... an OATC (Ontario Addiction Treatment Centre) in a converted store on Princess St., Kingston's main drag ... I've heard no complaints about it. Also, there is a regioinal detox centre, generously supported by the Sisters of Providence, in a large Victorian house beside the Hotel Dieu hospital. No problems with this one either. It's in a mainly residential area, along with doctors' and lawyers' offices (appropriate perhaps.) There is also Street Health, where addicts can get their methadone, clean needles, condoms etc. Given the problem with substance abuse and all the etceteras, treatment centres have to go somewhere. The problem is not going to evaporate.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

On reading most of the posts I surmise that none of you have ever had a family member with a drug or alcohol problem. If that is so you should be very thankful because it could so easily have happened to any one of you. These people are not the scum of the earth they are people with a very real problem. A problem which is going to get worse unless the police come down hard on known drug dealers!!!
But as I said if you haven't been there you will never understand:( And before anyone says it will never happen to any of their family I would say "never say never" it happens to people from all walks of life unfortunately.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

I suppose i'd like to know the Real reason behind them wanting to put this unit in a purely residential setting. Does anyone realy believe that theres no room within either Accrington Victoria Hospital or the Two Brand New Health Centres which have only just been built at a cost of 17 million quid!! Assuming that this facility is desperately needed would'nt one have thought it should have been included during the planning stages of these facilities. Surely the unit would be better located within one of these???

Also, the local estate agents have been surveyed with regards to what would happen to property values within the immediate area of such a facility. The results is that every estate agent questioned has said that prices would fall by between 8% - 10%!! The East Lancs PCT have been made aware of this, but are unwilling to take this into consideration. I wonder if there would be grounds for a legal challenge if they decide to go ahead with this ill thought out plan.

Best Regards - Taggy

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

The rehab centre should be in one of the new health centres. Not rocket science, as has been said Avenue Parade is a busy thoroughfare for children on their way to and from Peel Park, and for secondary school kids on their way home,it's a long and well populated street. I work with people on these rehab programmes, some genuinely want to help themselves, so don't and just keep taking whats given, I also live in the Peel ward and as I don't own my house it isn't the worry of plunging market prices that makes me unhappy about this proposition, it's basically the wrong place for it. We have enough to deal with here already with the gangs of chavs hanging around the Spar and the various druggies and nutcases; on second thoughts, hand it over, room for a few more ! :rolleyes:

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

well i have unfortunately, agree these people are not all "Scum" but some are, just as are some non addicts, thats life, but agree with polly in so far as these places though needed, should NOT be sited in residential places.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

I am not for one minute saying it should be there, after all we have two health centres doing nothing as most doctors have not moved into them. But the centre is needed and wherever they go somebody will be unhappy.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

Finally, someone brought up this excellent point. Compassion and understanding has found at least one ally ... Karma sent.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

Exactly ! Avenue Parade is at the centre of the most densely populated area of Accy they couldn't pick a worse place !

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

As Tealeaf stated, the Avenue parade residents suggested the Acorn Health Centre. This is also a residential area. Why do they think it should go there rather than in their backyard? These places have to go somewhere, and in the middle of nowhere is not a sensible option. Someone suggested Green Howarth...I'm sure the golf club would object! :D

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

I visit the Acorn health centre for chiropody every couple of months.
It is a big empty white elephant and the area around is sparse on housing because they have mainly been demolished.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

On one side it is sparse, but the other side of Blackburn road isn't. And they will eventually rebuild on the demolished sites! :)

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

Acorn is a purpose built health centre, Avenue Parade's ex doctor's surgery is a derelict, decaying aged building that needs demolishing, not refurbing, it's in the wrong place and not suited for the purpose. The town centre is already suffering from the preponderance of various "do-gooder" organisations ( I will say no more as I would be castigated for it) and this proposed rehab centre is right on the doorstep of the main culprits!.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

I agree with magpie and polly, the hospital is the correct place, Blackburn road is definately not the place either tealeaf, that is also a residential area.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

The Acorn Centre is on Blackburn road the main road into Accrington.
It would look good for people visiting the area to see all the Alcoholics and drug users hanging around the street .
Also a lot of children catch the bus to school right outside the acorn center so they would be vulnerable to the drug addicts in get them hooked too.
The Acorn center is definitely not the right place.

Re: Drug and Alcohol Dendency Unit on Avenue Parade
 

I have had both in my family, who have fortunately come out of the other side ok, and agree that they are not the scum of the earth, many however have to steal to afford the habits, that is my basis for saying not in a residential area, the crime cont is likely to go up, and then with it, house insurance, car insurance etc.
I thought the police would sort out a problem I was in the middle of some years ago, sadly not, I sorted them out myself, at great financial and emotional cost.