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magpie 15-11-2008 16:32

No wonder people avoid the shops....
 

some of these idiot store managers, ought to go round their stores in a wheelchair and then have a go walking round with a pram and maybe throw in a toddler or two.
Its not easy and at times flipping impossible:

Why do they have to make the isle's, which are narrow enough already, worse by trying to stick even more goods on the shop floor.

Woolworth's is one of the worst along with Matalan... not to mention Ossy Mills ( which really is a no go area with a wheel chair)

Do they sit and think... hey Christmas busy time, lets make it even harder for mums and people with wheel chairs... if that 's the case they are doing a good job:

I am now going to do all my shopping online.... stuff the Christmas atmosphere along with the turkey...

emamum 15-11-2008 16:34

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ive had that problem as well...im not very good a squeezing through gaps at the moment lol

polly 15-11-2008 16:35

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I agree totally. I have long been a fan of online shopping and Avon is a Gdsend and I dont have any toddlers, prams or wheelchairs to think about!!

garinda 15-11-2008 16:39

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I noticed today that the main walkway in the M & S in Accy is now a real obstacle course, with piles of Chritmas biscuits to navigate round.

I struggle because once I start walking it's hard to stop, but it must be a nightmare for those with buggies or in wheelchairs.

emzy 15-11-2008 16:56

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i have a nightmare all year round with the double buggy, wilkinsons is always bad for it, as is the pond shop (the one thats just moved)

I try and avoid these shops as I just end up getting bad tempered

I went in instore the other day, managed to make my way down the aisle at the far wall only to find that I could not get out down any of the aisles and had to go all the way back up to get back out. Most of their aisles were the same and there was no way that i was gotting down these. I must admit, it does wind me up a bit

Studio25 15-11-2008 17:19

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 651031)
ive had that problem as well...im not very good a squeezing through gaps at the moment lol

Well at least your bump will disappear in 114 days- unlike some of us who'll still be knocking over piles of tins in the co-op with our guts.

Actually, I suppose you'll just start doing it with a pram. :rolleyes:

I never understood why they pile up stuff in the aisles instead of putting them on the shelves. Surely the losses from "falling over" damage and the need for an employee's time to clear up would be more than offset by having that same employee wander around making sure the shelves are kept full?

In the co-op the other night I noticed one of their usual tricks of piling a half-case (6 bottles) of wine, seven boxes high, was going to come to a spectacular, colourful end. The box at the top of the pile had four bottles taken from the far end and the one under it had four bottles taken from the near end. All it needed was for someone to take a bottle from the third box and it would all come crashing down. :dancedog:

Caz 15-11-2008 17:37

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Wilkinsons has always annoyed me the way it is set out. Especially that aisle where you have to go up to either the top end or bottom to get round to where the tools etc are. Also the aisles set on an angle...I'm assuming they are still like that. Why don't they just make them straight up and down, with a gap in the middle of each aisle, and stop putting those stupid baskets with their bargains in, around the store. Also make each aisle at least the width of a double pram. No good having automatic doors so it's easy to get your pram in, and then you can't get round the store to what you want. Maybe if all the people who have trouble navigating the stores pestered the staff to get them the items they want, taking up their time, they might stop and think. another bugbear of mine is stuff packed too high. Either the shelves themselves being too high-Asda, or stuff packed so high on the top shelf, that it is dangerous to get something down-Netto..especially for shorties like me. :D. Getting to the bottom of a freezer is difficult enough, lol! :D

Lilly 15-11-2008 17:46

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I do a lot of shopping online.

It's so much easier on the nerves in many ways.....no parking, queuing or navigating aisles hassles. :D

polly 15-11-2008 18:18

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And another thing..............has anyone else noticed the growing trend for some shops (like WH Smiths and ASda) to have higher and higher shelves?

How is someone (probably female) of 5'2" supposed to reach goods off a shelf a goo 12" taller than she is? Do these shops think that small people dont buy anything? At least the internet does not discriminate according to height

Caz 15-11-2008 18:20

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And another thing..............has anyone else noticed the growing trend for some shops (like WH Smiths and ASda) to have higher and higher shelves?

How is someone (probably female) of 5'2" supposed to reach goods off a shelf a goo 12" taller than she is? Do these shops think that small people dont buy anything? At least the internet does not discriminate according to height
See post 7, lol! and I'm just 5ft!:)

MargaretR 15-11-2008 18:27

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 651065)
I do a lot of shopping online.

It's so much easier on the nerves in many ways.....no parking, queuing or navigating aisles hassles. :D

I'll second that and if you have 'savvy' you use a voucher which covers the delivery charge and a bit

I've had a few deliveries from Sainsburys lately because they are offering free delivery Tues Wed and Thurs if you spend £100.

The other 2 (Asda & Tesco) then notice that you are neglecting them and so mail you money off vouchers.:)

PS Instore I always struggled to read labels -on line no problem - shop 24/7, in my nightie, without using bifocals

pipinfort 15-11-2008 18:36

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 651065)
I do a lot of shopping online.

It's so much easier on the nerves in many ways.....no parking, queuing or navigating aisles hassles. :D


Margaret beat me to it so i`ll third that.....:D

carlsbergaddict 15-11-2008 18:54

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...And on the subject of the great British tradition...queuing!! Many a time Im in a shop queuing for 5 or 10 minutes, then the person in front of you gets to the checkout...Then its like someone has played a trick on them and hidden their purse or wallet somewhere on them!! Bags, jacket, trouser pockets, shirt pockets and other secret locations are all searched twice over before it is finally located - hopefully!!. Thats not it though! Often the dreaded credit/debit card is then produced for payment only to find the checkout operators chip n pin machine requires a PIN number entering. This often comes as a shock to the customer as you hear the words "now whats my number??"....
Online shopping wins for me everytime too!!!!!

steeljack 15-11-2008 19:02

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Absolutly no reason why those who are at home all day should be clogging shops up on the weekends and evenings (especially this time of year) there is plenty of time during the day-time mid-week when the shops are empty , leave the shops to the working folk (the ones with money to spend) on the weekends . :D ;)

Caz 15-11-2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 651123)
Absolutly no reason why those who are at home all day should be clogging shops up on the weekends and evenings (especially this time of year) there is plenty of time during the day-time mid-week when the shops are empty , leave the shops to the working folk (the ones with money to spend) on the weekends . :D ;)

Maybe some of the people on "limited income" unlike you :D rely on people other than themselves for the transport? Thus out of working hours is the option for them too? :)

shillelagh 15-11-2008 20:18

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At the minute everyone else is doing my shopping for me - with a carpet burn running the length of my nose, 2 black eyes, graze on my forehead its better for me to hide out rather than have everyone else staring at me!!!! But come next week i'll be out and about. So anyone sees me dont worry i aint been mugged!!! just been ill!!!

By the way i took a header into icelands basket at the front once when i was ill there and it went everywhere ... but i cant help it ...

Caz 15-11-2008 20:20

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with a carpet burn running the length of my nose,
:eek:

Sorry Jen, couldn't resist! :)

garinda 15-11-2008 20:34

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 651156)
At the minute everyone else is doing my shopping for me - with a carpet burn running the length of my nose, 2 black eyes, graze on my forehead its better for me to hide out rather than have everyone else staring at me!!!! But come next week i'll be out and about. So anyone sees me dont worry i aint been mugged!!! just been ill!!!

By the way i took a header into icelands basket at the front once when i was ill there and it went everywhere ... but i cant help it ...

Blimey, you have been in the wars again.:(

Hope you're soon on the mend x :)

Perhaps we should buy you an American footballer's outfit for Christmas.:p

Caz 15-11-2008 20:38

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Hope my post wasn't thought to be unfeeling. :( I have a son with epilepsy, and you have to make the best of a bad situation. We turn many a situation into something to have a laugh about. Sometimes you have to laugh about it, or you would cry. Hope you're feeling better Jen. :)

Royboy39 15-11-2008 21:11

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I agree with online shopping 100% but you will have your local councilors bleating that is taking trade away from the town centre, although the town centre is a dead duck anyway.
Let's hope this current situation stops or even curbs the ideas for change and silly spending of taxpayers money.
Build Supermarkets by all means but let them make up the shortfall in rates.

shillelagh 15-11-2008 22:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 651164)
Blimey, you have been in the wars again.:(

Hope you're soon on the mend x :)

Perhaps we should buy you an American footballer's outfit for Christmas.:p

I'd probably hurt myself even worse!!!! lol:D

Caz ... i have it cant do owt about it and if you dont laugh then you would cry ... and have done a few times but its one of those things .. Shops sometimes dont know what to do .... they can panic and make things worse

glasgow guy 16-11-2008 15:02

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when I worked as a manager in retail I always done the trolley test before opening or after moving things about - or I got my staff to do it and it was basically someone walking round the aisles/displays etc with a shopping trolley, if they could get round withouto bumping into anything or getting jammed then sorted - if jammed or whatever we always moved things so no probs..

jaysay 17-11-2008 09:45

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Originally Posted by glasgow guy (Post 651311)
when I worked as a manager in retail I always done the trolley test before opening or after moving things about - or I got my staff to do it and it was basically someone walking round the aisles/displays etc with a shopping trolley, if they could get round withouto bumping into anything or getting jammed then sorted - if jammed or whatever we always moved things so no probs..

Its a pity more anagers don't do that GG, would save a lot of problems for customers

Caz 17-11-2008 09:48

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Getting through with a trolley, doesn't mean you can get round with a double pram or wheel chair though.

Tealeaf 17-11-2008 13:20

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There is a simple solution to all these whinging women shoppers - sex segregation. Men are logical when it comes to buying their goodies; they know what they want and where it is located, so it's in to the supermarket, straight down the relevant aisles, pick the stuff, put in the trolley, to the checkout, pay and then finally exit. Any delays are invariably caused by women blocking the aisles either through gormless chatter with their chums or worse still simply not knowing what they are doing there in the first place.

The answer to it all is to let women only wonder aimlessly around the aisles monday to saturday and then hand over to men on a sunday when no silly hold-ups will happen. I can guarantee that men will get more shopping done in one day, at a cheaper price, than women can manage in six.

grannyclaret 17-11-2008 14:29

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The answer to it all is to let women only wonder aimlessly around the aisles monday to saturday and then hand over to men on a sunday when no silly hold-ups will happen. I can guarantee that men will get more shopping done in one day, at a cheaper price, than women can manage in six.
what planet are you from then Tealeaf......:egged::egged:or better still what booze are you on....
only joking

magpie 17-11-2008 15:27

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Originally Posted by Caz (Post 651674)
Getting through with a trolley, doesn't mean you can get round with a double pram or wheel chair though.


Very good point... or a wide wheel chair

Lilly 17-11-2008 15:38

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 651743)
There is a simple solution to all these whinging women shoppers - sex segregation. Men are logical when it comes to buying their goodies; they know what they want and where it is located, so it's in to the supermarket, straight down the relevant aisles, pick the stuff, put in the trolley, to the checkout, pay and then finally exit. Any delays are invariably caused by women blocking the aisles either through gormless chatter with their chums or worse still simply not knowing what they are doing there in the first place.

The answer to it all is to let women only wonder aimlessly around the aisles monday to saturday and then hand over to men on a sunday when no silly hold-ups will happen. I can guarantee that men will get more shopping done in one day, at a cheaper price, than women can manage in six.

You're right men do know what they want from the supermarket and they do seem to get it done very quickly.

Fabulous, you think.............until you start unpacking what he's brought home and discover that all he's bought is beer, pizza, crisps and some putrid looking microwaveable burgers. :(

Then the woman has to go back the following day and do it again properly.

Caz 17-11-2008 16:06

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they know what they want and where it is located,
Would like to know of a supermarket that always has its products in the same place..part of their marketing ploy to move things round. :mad:

You shopping for a family tealeaf? Think not.

Think we should make him do someone's weekly shop for a family with a pram and toddler in tow. :)

garinda 17-11-2008 19:51

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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 651047)
i have a nightmare all year round with the double buggy, wilkinsons is always bad for it, as is the pond shop (the one thats just moved)

I try and avoid these shops as I just end up getting bad tempered

I can imagine that really must be hard work.

I'd be tempted to find someone to make me a double decker buggy.

Does anyone sell them?

If you had an upstairs/downstairs contraption, at least you could get two children out and about, and it would only take up the same floor space as a single pushchair.

emamum 17-11-2008 20:01

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you can get double buggys that are the same size as a single but these are really designed for an older child and a new baby.. my friends after getting one and another friend has one that looks like the baby is in the shopping basket lol... Emzys boys are big lads and pretty heavy ( trust me lol) so their buggy will be extra hard to shift about

glasgow guy 17-11-2008 21:29

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Originally Posted by Caz (Post 651674)
Getting through with a trolley, doesn't mean you can get round with a double pram or wheel chair though.

that may be so but just because I say I used a shopping trolley I am not taling about the exact width of one..I am talking about 4ft wide between things which is ample room for anyone really..should someone have gotten stuck then it was not probs as some things were in trolleys which were simple to move..and to be honest..the amount of double buggys and wide wheelchairs that actually came in where a tiny % so there never was any troubles..
I even kept a can wd40 under my desk for prams with squeeky wheels...now that was service! :D

jaysay 18-11-2008 09:55

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The main reason people have so much trouble with shopping trolleys is that the blood wheels have a mind of their own, one wants to go right the other left and the others can't be assed to move at all:rolleyes:

blazey 18-11-2008 16:57

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It is brilliant to be young, single and child-free.

The problem I have is if I have a rucksack with twenty books on my back!

emzy 18-11-2008 18:43

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 651891)
I can imagine that really must be hard work.

I'd be tempted to find someone to make me a double decker buggy.

Does anyone sell them?

If you had an upstairs/downstairs contraption, at least you could get two children out and about, and it would only take up the same floor space as a single pushchair.

Those double decker ones (phil & Ted) are expensive and the child underneath cant really see anything so unless young would get bored very easily. Have also thought about the one infront of the other but given the size and weight of my two I would have to be very very strong to lift it up kerbs etc, I have to more or less jump on the back of mine to get it up kerbs because of the weight (they arent small my two, as many can vouch for, they are both bigger than average for their age) so and stuck really. The style I have is the most suitable for there age (and is one of the narrowest for a side by side) but still a nightmare cornering etc. Ive tried numerous different styles of double prams but side by side was the only one suitable for my 2, Im not the smallest person either and am quite strong (given there are times ive to hold or carry both the boys at once) but still struggle with it, evern in the stores that have wider aisles etc


I would be more than happy to provide a walk round service for stores to check their suitablility in aisle width :)

Benipete 18-11-2008 21:11

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Just got back from the Asda,Two pluses - Not a push chair in sight and cans are back down to £20 for 45.
Life's good.:theband::D

jaysay 19-11-2008 10:04

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Originally Posted by blazey (Post 652242)
It is brilliant to be young, single and child-free.

The problem I have is if I have a rucksack with twenty books on my back!

You know blazey, I once thought that, but life is like an MFI cupboard, one lose screw and everything falls to pieces.:D


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