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magpie 22-11-2008 10:49

Final insult: Baby P
 
:mad:Final insult: Now public faces paying millions to provide Baby P's mother with a new identity:mad:

Final insult: Now public faces paying millions to provide Baby P's mother with a new identity | Mail Online



Why should we put up with this…. The woman should be named and both her and the stepdad should be sterilised , so they can have no more children…
In fact they should never be allowed out of jail…
Words fail me they really do:

emzy 22-11-2008 10:52

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I got a text the other day giving the names of all 3 people involved, icluding the street and town, whether this information was true or not i dont know but it is being circulated wither way

But no, they should not get any help in any way, they should be jailed for life

onlyme 22-11-2008 13:30

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As emzy says, if the names are meant to be hidden, theyre not doing a right good job of hiding them, spent 5 mins on facebook and you'll have names, pictures, addresses links to their pages etc etc etc

The joys of the net

jambutty 22-11-2008 13:48

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Another insult is the crass insistence on naming the child Baby P.

The poor mite had a name so they should use it. After all the child’s picture has been shown all over the place so why not the child’s name as well?

Oh! Dear! It might identify the mother and father? Good!

Rest in peace little one. You didn’t deserve what you got.

citizenx 22-11-2008 13:49

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There's a website which is quite easy to find using google, which shows the pictures of the killers.

jaysay 22-11-2008 14:13

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Its just the same as Maxine Carr, she was given a new identity too, why is we have to protect this scum, the law never gives these people what they deserve, if they did there would be know need to give them new identities, just a tombstone

West Ender 22-11-2008 14:16

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Has any reason been given for the anonymity of the parents? I can't comprehend why this has been done when every other parent/guardian in a case like this, for instance Victoria Climbié's aunt, is named.

garinda 22-11-2008 14:23

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The evil cow did the crime, and is supposed to be doing the time, though for what suffering she inflicted, that time will never be enough. She's afraid. Tough luck love.

For any public money to be spent offering her protection is obscene.

It's a sad state of affairs when those who break the law have more rights than the victims.

I hope she spends the rest of her life looking over her shoulder, but that still won't compensate for the cruelty she inflicted on a defenceless child.

Politicans of all parties need to realise that the general public are sick to the back teeth with lawyers fighting for the 'human rights' of criminals. We are more concerned with the human rights of the victims of crime.:mad:

garinda 22-11-2008 14:26

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 653761)
Has any reason been given for the anonymity of the parents? I can't comprehend why this has been done when every other parent/guardian in a case like this, for instance Victoria Climbié's aunt, is named.

I can't understand either why they all haven't been publicly named, after been found guilty of this heinous crime.

magpie 22-11-2008 14:39

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have found names and addresses: because these have now been put on line... part of their defence will be ( we cant have a fair trail) and they will all get new id's at our cost:

the best would be to let them out in the town where they lived ( thus saving the tax payer a lot of money )

derekgas 22-11-2008 16:13

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I received a text about a week ago giving the names and addresses of the mother, her fella, and i quote 'the paedo that lived with them', I wasnt sure of the origin so didnt post it, I wonder about imprisonment as a punishment, maybe leave them with the same identity, in the same house and see what happens! Imo this would be worse than prison in this country.

BERNADETTE 22-11-2008 16:52

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It is a travesty that they haven't been named officialy, after all how many innocent mothers have endured hell after losing their children to cot death? Hope the evil gets rot in hell.
RIP Little Man nobody can hurt you anymore

West Ender 22-11-2008 17:01

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Originally Posted by jambutty (Post 653755)
Another insult is the crass insistence on naming the child Baby P.

The poor mite had a name so they should use it. After all the child’s picture has been shown all over the place so why not the child’s name as well?


I believe his name was Peter.

yerself 22-11-2008 17:33

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ovariohysterectomy
surgical excision of the ovaries and the uterus, used as a means of preventing pregnancy and ovarian cyclicity, and for removal of a diseased uterus. The common 'spay' operation in dogs and cats.

The only public money to be spent on this excuse for humanity should be that paid to have the above procedure carried out on her.

Neil 22-11-2008 17:35

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A UK judge banned pictures and naming of the people in this case. Does that mean that this US based website can talk about their names and post pictures?

Especially if a US citizen posted the information.

panther 22-11-2008 17:37

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4 words......THE LAWS AN ASS!!!

The evil cow should be tortured just like that poor mite who no longer as a life!!!:angry:

magpie 22-11-2008 17:49

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their pics and names are all over the net... so the powers that be would have to take up legal proceedings with an awful lot of people:

Yes the little babies name was Peter: I don't understand why the grandparents or biological father did not give the little boy a proper funeral and headstone: I am sure they could have got the money from somewhere:

Another reason they are not naming the low life is because there are three other children to consider:

was shocked to hear some STUPID social worker was fighting for the right for this excuse of a woman to keep her baby, the one she was pregnant with whilst murdering her little son:

Words really fail me on this case... and there are others not unlike this one: the law needs to change : look at all the flipping hype Jonathan Ross and the other bloke got... they very nearly lost their jobs... but doctors and social workers and the rest of the ( IDIOT CHILD PROTECTION TEAM ) some how managed to keep theirs:

Jae Swift 22-11-2008 18:08

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Originally Posted by emzy (Post 653731)
I got a text the other day giving the names of all 3 people involved, icluding the street and town, whether this information was true or not i dont know but it is being circulated wither way

But no, they should not get any help in any way, they should be jailed for life

I have names, photos, addresses, post codes, names of the social workers etc. and people that refused to see bruising and broken back etc.

Lilly 22-11-2008 22:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 653759)
Its just the same as Maxine Carr, she was given a new identity too, why is we have to protect this scum, the law never gives these people what they deserve, if they did there would be know need to give them new identities, just a tombstone

I don't think the people who killed the baby should be given a new identity but I think it's unfair to Maxine Carr to liken them to her. They are not the same at all.

These people abused and killed a little baby.

Maxine Carr didn't abuse or kill anyone and there would have been no need to give her a new identity if people weren't making death threats to her. :(

jaysay 23-11-2008 10:26

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 653994)
I don't think the people who killed the baby should be given a new identity but I think it's unfair to Maxine Carr to liken them to her. They are not the same at all.

These people abused and killed a little baby.

Maxine Carr didn't abuse or kill anyone and there would have been no need to give her a new identity if people weren't making death threats to her. :(

No she didn't kill anybody Lilly, but she aided and abetted Huntly, which in my eyes is just as bad, and perverted the course of justice which added more pain to the parents of those two little girls.

Just another point on baby P. it seems his sick mother(and I don't mean ill) has said in jail she can't understand what all the fuse is about, as her son was just accident prone, just about says it all to me, the self centred heartless murdering bitch

jaysay 24-11-2008 10:56

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Just been reading this morning more about this scum, it appears, according to top criminal lawyers that the mother could be back on the streets by next summer, apparently she was not the one guilty of killing the child and would receive a sentence of around 4 years only, and with time served she would be out by summer. However the ratbag that did kill the child can only be sentenced to a maximum of 14 years, which means he could be out in 7, give me strength, and they call that justice.

The other thing that annoys me is that this woman can the go on and have more kids. We often her about people being taken to court for cruelty to animals (like the guy in Accy only last week) and are band from ever keeping animals again, yet this woman will be quite free to breed again, unbelievable

Jim Procter 24-11-2008 13:12

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Well if everybody seems to know their names. Go on then and name them . This is still a free country Or is it?
Rest in peace little one

jaysay 24-11-2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by Jim Procter (Post 654449)
Well if everybody seems to know their names. Go on then and name them . This is still a free country Or is it?
Rest in peace little one

Could certainly name them, but I'm sure the mods would delete them immediately as Accy Web may become libel

Lolly 24-11-2008 16:17

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 653882)
Yes the little babies name was Peter: I don't understand why the grandparents or biological father did not give the little boy a proper funeral and headstone: I am sure they could have got the money from somewhere:

Baby P did have a funeral | The Sun |News

I'm glad he did have a funeral. He deserves to rest with some dignity. In the article it says that the family were told not to say anything because of the court case, and The Sun provided the granite gravestone. Theres some pictures in the paper today of the area where his ashes are scattered and its beautiful. Its full of flowers, toys and teddies mainly from complete strangers.

RIP Little Man xxx

Lolly 01-12-2008 14:08

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I know it will never bring him back but at least some small shred of justice has been done:

BBC NEWS | UK | Official sacked over Baby P case

Hopefully this wont happen to any other children in that area now.

jaysay 01-12-2008 16:07

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Originally Posted by Lolly (Post 656446)
I know it will never bring him back but at least some small shred of justice has been done:

BBC NEWS | UK | Official sacked over Baby P case

Hopefully this wont happen to any other children in that area now.

If Sharon Shoesmith had a shred of decency she would have resigned weeks ago, but no she toughed it out and had to be sacked, lets hope its a long time before she gets another job anywhere near children

Benipete 01-12-2008 16:25

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656470)
If Sharon Shoesmith had a shred of decency she would have resigned weeks ago, but no she toughed it out and had to be sacked, lets hope its a long time before she gets another job anywhere near children

Or has she just been moved to another department??:hidewall:

Wynonie Harris 02-12-2008 08:09

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She's not been sacked - she's been suspended on full pay. How much do you want to bet that she'll either be reinstated or she'll land another well-paid job elsewhere in the public sector? :mad:

jaysay 02-12-2008 09:26

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 656632)
She's not been sacked - she's been suspended on full pay. How much do you want to bet that she'll either be reinstated or she'll land another well-paid job elsewhere in the public sector? :mad:

I was fuming this morning when I saw that Wynonie, yesterday they said she'd been sacked and so she should have been. Although it now seems that before they can give her the boot they have to study employment law, they have also said there will be no financial settlement and that she will not be working in any other job within the council, but I'm no holding my breath:(

Wynonie Harris 02-12-2008 10:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 656642)
and that she will not be working in any other job within the council, but I'm no holding my breath:(

She might not be working for that council, perhaps she won't get a job with another council, but she'll get some sort of job with one of the many quangos or other bureaucratic nonenties that the government love to waste our taxes on...can't see her going down the job centre anytime soon!

jaysay 02-12-2008 11:10

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 656652)
She might not be working for that council, perhaps she won't get a job with another council, but she'll get some sort of job with one of the many quangos or other bureaucratic nonenties that the government love to waste our taxes on...can't see her going down the job centre anytime soon!

Looking at her Wynonie, I think going down the job centre would be beneath her, she looks a real snooty self important bitch to me:mad:


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