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pussycat 29-11-2008 11:21

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Another young boy was knocked down in ossy last nite , old man driving didn,t see him , boy is in a bad way and was rushed to manchester hospital , hope he is fine get well soon corey , my love to your parents , he is a friend of my stepson who was there at the time of the accident , my stepson is in shock , and very worried for his friend ,

Neil 29-11-2008 11:28

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I hope he makes a full recovery soon.

Have you any more info on this?
Like where it happened, at what time and how old he is?

Polly_45 29-11-2008 11:37

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Hope he recovers from his injuries
happened on Harvey Street Ossy late last night,police closed rd off until early hrs of this morning

BERNADETTE 29-11-2008 11:42

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Hope the lad makes a full recovery

Neil 29-11-2008 11:45

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Originally Posted by Polly_45 (Post 655830)
Hope he recovers from his injuries
happened on Harvey Street Ossy late last night,police closed rd off until early hrs of this morning

I did wonder if it would be Harvey Street. There has been talk of LCC doing speed checks on there because of several complaints about speeding. It is a big wide road at one end and cars do drive too fast. It is the sort of wide empty road that driving at 30mph feels slow. All of a sudden you reach the Community Centres and its built up with parked cars. Lots of kids around as well.

A fixed camera would be a good idea facing towards union road just before the houses.

Gayle 29-11-2008 13:35

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You don't mention how old the boy is - was he at the youth centre at the time, you say it was late at night? I only ask because sometimes I've seen them playing 'chicken' around there, now I hope that wasn't the case here and I genuinely hope the boy is ok but that's another reason for people to be warned to slow down at the approach to the youth clubs.

Benipete 29-11-2008 15:14

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Come very close to hitting a few myself,Kids wearing dark clothes and having no lights on their bikes are very hard to see.:confused::confused:

Neil 29-11-2008 16:39

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Thats a good point Pete, was the boy walking or riding a bike.

We often jump to the conclusion that the driver is always at fault. I have hit somebody with a car almost 10 years ago. He just stepped out from behind a wagon as I was almost stopped at traffic lights. I do hope the boy gets better but the driver of the car will be a mess as well I am sure. Different kind of mess I know but it does effect you.

shillelagh 29-11-2008 17:38

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Hope he gets better soon.

Found this on the bbc website
BBC NEWS | England | Lancashire | Schoolboy hurt in road accident

Schoolboy hurt in road accident
A 13-year-old boy is seriously ill in hospital after being knocked down by a car in Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire.

Corey Taylor had been crossing Harvey Street in the town at about 1900 GMT on Friday when he was hit by a Toyota Corolla car, Lancashire Police said.

The teenager sustained serious head injuries and was taken to Royal Manchester Children's Hospital.

Police are not treating the incident as suspicious, but have appealed for any witnesses to contact them.

Sgt Mick Young, from Lancashire Police, said: "The driver of the Toyota remained at the scene and provided full details to police. He is uninjured but is in shock.

"A full investigation has now been launched."

magpie 29-11-2008 17:54

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 655850)
You don't mention how old the boy is - was he at the youth centre at the time, you say it was late at night? I only ask because sometimes I've seen them playing 'chicken' around there, now I hope that wasn't the case here and I genuinely hope the boy is ok but that's another reason for people to be warned to slow down at the approach to the youth clubs.


It happens a lot on that road... kids are always playing chicken there... they also throw things at cars ( this happened to me a few weeks ago)

Don't know the facts behind this case.... however in the past there are some kids on there
that should know better, its a wonder none of them have been killed:

Lesson learnt , probably not:

derekgas 29-11-2008 17:59

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What I dont understand is this, in areas where there is a large ethnic population, there are masses of traffic calming measures, from speed ramps, cameras, 20 mph limits, and plenty of streets shut down at one end or made one way, (I know this to be true in Bury, around heywood st, in accrington, willows lane and blackburn road, and bash in blackburn, certain parts of great harwood) but there appear to be far fewer where the population is ethnic minority (ramsbottom is a good example), I hope the lad in question is ok, and also the driver, but it does make me think that the local authority could do more in certain areas, and I am not being racist, this is fact.

cherokee 29-11-2008 18:00

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Oh I do hope the child makes a full and speedy recovery and the driver can overcome this accident.

Neil 29-11-2008 18:53

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 655925)
What I dont understand is this, in areas where there is a large ethnic population, there are masses of traffic calming measures, from speed ramps, cameras, 20 mph limits, and plenty of streets shut down at one end or made one way

Maybe it is down to the strong sense of community they have which gives them a loud voice at County Hall.

derekgas 29-11-2008 19:04

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 655946)
Maybe it is down to the strong sense of community they have which gives them a loud voice at County Hall.

You are probably right, they seem to have a very loud voice in many aspects! :eek::rolleyes:

Neil 29-11-2008 19:06

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 655954)
You are probably right, they seem to have a very loud voice in many aspects! :eek::rolleyes:

Who said I could not be diplomatic :rolleyes::D

yerself 29-11-2008 19:41

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Originally Posted by derekgas
What I dont understand is this, in areas where there is a large ethnic population, there are masses of traffic calming measures, from speed ramps, cameras, 20 mph limits, and plenty of streets shut down at one end or made one way, (I know this to be true in Bury, around heywood st, in accrington, willows lane and blackburn road, and bash in blackburn, certain parts of great harwood) but there appear to be far fewer where the population is ethnic minority (ramsbottom is a good example), I hope the lad in question is ok, and also the driver, but it does make me think that the local authority could do more in certain areas, and I am not being racist, this is fact.

I've driven through these areas you mention. There always seems to be a high number of BMWs, Subaru Impreza WRCs and beat beat-up Toyotas being driven around at breakneck speed. Do you think this could have something to do with siting of the traffic calming measures?;)

derekgas 29-11-2008 20:02

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 655959)
I've driven through these areas you mention. There always seems to be a high number of BMWs, Subaru Impreza WRCs and beat beat-up Toyotas being driven around at breakneck speed. Do you think this could have something to do with siting of the traffic calming measures?;)

You are right... did you notice the age and ethnic origin of the nutters driving them by any chance? :eek:;)

accyman 29-11-2008 21:12

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that road can be horrendous especialy when all the parents double park their cars to watch their kids play football leaving the road to be over 300 yards of single file traffic with a brow to boot so you cant see cars coming the other way

i drive down there a lot and i am surprised there arnt more accidents with a mixture of speeding drivers , inconsiderate parking , kids running out between parked cars and not wearing anything visable in the dark

wouldnt hurt to start teaching kids how to cross a road safely in schools again either


hope the lad gets well and that somthing gets sorted with that road because as of yet there isnt one saftey measure in place , no crossing and not even so much as a speed bump

Neil 29-11-2008 21:15

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 655987)
i drive like a right tool down there a lot and i am surprised there arnt more accidents with a mixture of speeding drivers

You missed a bit out of your post mate - I corrected it for you :p:D

accyman 29-11-2008 21:17

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 655959)
I've driven through these areas you mention. There always seems to be a high number of BMWs, Subaru Impreza WRCs and beat beat-up Toyotas being driven around at breakneck speed. Do you think this could have something to do with siting of the traffic calming measures?;)

i dont like speed bumps but i bet if there were a few down that road they wouldnt use it for drag racing then

accyman 29-11-2008 21:20

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 655988)
You missed a bit out of your post mate - I corrected it for you :p:D

i only put my foot down when i think its you infront of my car thankyou ;)


infact i recall you asking me to speed past a camera while you gathered in the road so that you could get a family potrait done on teh cheap :p

suedarbo 30-11-2008 19:11

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I work in Ossy, my work involves driving all over town usually in the evening. I am amazed at the amount of youths that walk (swagger!) along in the middle of the road and refuse to move. I was going along Catlowhall street the other week and encountered about 7 of them. They didn't look that old either, all waltzing along in the road. Do they think they are invincible?
I'm not saying that this is what happened with this young lad and I hope he gets well quickly.

accyman 30-11-2008 22:31

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Originally Posted by suedarbo (Post 656263)
I work in Ossy, my work involves driving all over town usually in the evening. I am amazed at the amount of youths that walk (swagger!) along in the middle of the road and refuse to move. I was going along Catlowhall street the other week and encountered about 7 of them. They didn't look that old either, all waltzing along in the road. Do they think they are invincible?
I'm not saying that this is what happened with this young lad and I hope he gets well quickly.

iv seen kids jumping out infront of cars on harvey street trying to scare drivers into swerving thinking they are big and clever and like your self have experinced kids deliberatly standing in the road making cars stop infact they also like to do it near the war memorial standing on the traffic island jumping out or pretending to jump out infront of cars as they pass by

i used to be firm believer that a driver should be aware of the dangers of the road and be held fully resposible if they hit somone but with the stupid games kids play and total disregard for their own safety when crossing a road i can understand why a driver could easily hit somone and not be able to prevent an accident

its amazing how a teenage yob provoking an accident can suddenly become a saint and expert road crosser once it gets run over

again im not saying this is what this particular child was doing but it happens

bernie94 01-12-2008 08:14

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 655987)
that road can be horrendous especialy when all the parents double park their cars to watch their kids play football leaving the road to be over 300 yards of single file traffic with a brow to boot so you cant see cars coming the other way

i drive down there a lot and i am surprised there arnt more accidents with a mixture of speeding drivers , inconsiderate parking , kids running out between parked cars and not wearing anything visable in the dark

wouldnt hurt to start teaching kids how to cross a road safely in schools again either


hope the lad gets well and that somthing gets sorted with that road because as of yet there isnt one saftey measure in place , no crossing and not even so much as a speed bump


i dont know about all schools but they do at my grandsons school sacred heart in church.

emamum 01-12-2008 09:54

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woulda thought road safety is something parents should teach their children. Its not difficult to tell the child to stop look and listen everytime they cross the road, teach them how to use a zebra crossing and to always wait for the green man (and then wait till the cars have stopped cos not all do)

derekgas 01-12-2008 10:26

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All well and good teaching your kids to watch for the green man, or stop look and listen, personally I am sick to death of people walking straight over the road at pelicans when the red man is showing, they must know that you are trying to teach kids, but they selfishly just cross willy nilly, I usually say 'thanks for that, I am trying to teach the kids NOT to do that' :mad:

Studio25 01-12-2008 11:13

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 656397)
woulda thought road safety is something parents should teach their children...

It is, but at my lad's school I seem to be the only parent who does it (perhaps there are some others that I don't see 'cos I'm late a lot). I stand behind him and let him do all the work. He even waves traffic on that stops for him (thinking they are doing him a favour) after a scare early on when I had to grab him as someone overtook the stopped car- on a zigzag!

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 656401)
All well and good teaching your kids to watch for the green man, or stop look and listen, personally I am sick to death of people walking straight over the road at pelicans when the red man is showing...

My big bugbear is someone who steps into traffic within a 30 second walk of a pedestrian crossing. I see it all the time from my vantage point at the shop- in fact, if you'd been watching on the webcam 30 seconds ago, you'd have seen an idiot mum/guardian crossing at the double roundabout in Great Harwood centre, when there was a perfectly serviceable pelican crossing right next to her. My blood boils when it's someone who's endangering the lives of others- not just themselves.

On two occasions I've actually stopped and said: "Are you stupid?" tends to tarnish the ambiance when you say it to a neighbour though :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 656401)
...I usually say 'thanks for that, I am trying to teach the kids NOT to do that'

hehe- me too. I get upset with parents who drag their kids across between parked cars without showing them how to check. they are not just endangering their lives at that moment, but in the future when the kid runs out thinking traffic isn't something to be scared of.

Taggy 01-12-2008 13:29

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 656337)
iv seen kids jumping out infront of cars on harvey street trying to scare drivers into swerving thinking they are big and clever and like your self have experinced kids deliberatly standing in the road making cars stop infact they also like to do it near the war memorial standing on the traffic island jumping out or pretending to jump out infront of cars as they pass by

i used to be firm believer that a driver should be aware of the dangers of the road and be held fully resposible if they hit somone but with the stupid games kids play and total disregard for their own safety when crossing a road i can understand why a driver could easily hit somone and not be able to prevent an accident

its amazing how a teenage yob provoking an accident can suddenly become a saint and expert road crosser once it gets run over

again im not saying this is what this particular child was doing but it happens

I travel on Harvey Street a lot, and whilst its certainly true that many drivers do drive far to fast along there, i have to agree that there is a big problem with teenagers loitering in the roads and deliberatly causing problems for drivers. This occurs mainly around the Community centre area.

I notice in the Newspaper though, that they are drawing attention to the fact that there were two "Elderly" Couples in the car. Do you think someone is already trying to apportion blame??

Best Regards - Taggy


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