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steeljack 09-01-2009 04:42

re Left hand drive cars on UK roads
 
the mention of Ronaldo and his motoring accident in another thread got me to wondering how big of a problem driving Left hand drive cars on UK roads is ? . Has any Accy web user in the UK had problems with Euro cars driving mistakenly on the 'wrong' side .
Anyone know of any accident figures ? ;)

Thought about putting up a poll " Should the UK drive on the Right like the rest of mainland Europe" but thought better of it .
:flamethro :hidewall: :whip:

jaysay 09-01-2009 09:59

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 667395)
the mention of Ronaldo and his motoring accident in another thread got me to wondering how big of a problem driving Left hand drive cars on UK roads is ? . Has any Accy web user in the UK had problems with Euro cars driving mistakenly on the 'wrong' side .
Anyone know of any accident figures ? ;)

Thought about putting up a poll " Should the UK drive on the Right like the rest of mainland Europe" but thought better of it .
:flamethro :hidewall: :whip:

Shouldn't make any difference really SJ once you get used to it, but there will be bad drivers irrespective of left or right hand drive, there are people who just shouldn't be on the road full stop. As far as the Renaldo thing I've never understood why there needs to be road cars which can do 205mph, its just tempting Boy Racers to break the law

cashman 09-01-2009 10:05

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don't really see a problem with left or right hand drive cars, only problem i see is some of the "Clowns" behind the wheel.

AccyLass 09-01-2009 11:07

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We have a Trans Am and that is a left hand drive, I've never known him to drive on the wrong side of the road with it lol

churchman phil 09-01-2009 11:13

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 667395)

Thought about putting up a poll " Should the UK drive on the Right like the rest of mainland Europe" but thought better of it .

The sheer cost of doing that prohibits it from being done. There's all the road markings that would need changing, re-positioning of road signs, re-structuring of some junctions, complete re-planning of town centre routes due to current one way systems etc, etc, etc.

Plus half the loonies behind a wheel now wouldn't have the brains to adjust...

Studio25 09-01-2009 15:34

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Originally Posted by churchman phil (Post 667469)
Plus half the loonies behind a wheel now wouldn't have the brains to adjust...

It would be a cool way to get rid of half the loonies behind a wheel, though.

All we'd need is a way to make sure they didn't take anyone else out at the same time...

magpie 09-01-2009 16:34

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I often wonder if I am on the right side of the road....

MargaretR 09-01-2009 16:59

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That lunatic 2nd ex of mine dealt in secondhand yankee cars at one time.
I was often a front seat passenger and found it a harrowing experience - to seem to be in the driving seat but have no control. This was made worse by his lunatic habit of racing against other motorists.....:eek:

***Mr D*** 09-01-2009 17:11

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 667430)
As far as the Renaldo thing I've never understood why there needs to be road cars which can do 205mph, its just tempting Boy Racers to break the law

I dont think many boy racers will drive cars that can do 205mph. Thats why Citroen built the Saxo.:D

Most cars can break the speed limit.

Eric 09-01-2009 17:30

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I have no problem with left-hand drive.;)

katex 09-01-2009 17:45

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 667597)
I have no problem with left-hand drive.;)

Even with a left hand drive car ... first time out in America managed to almost crunch someone's wing mirror, forgetting had a lot more car to my right ... :o

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 667590)
I dont think many boy racers will drive cars that can do 205mph. Thats why Citroen built the Saxo.:D

Most cars can break the speed limit.

Amazed how Ronaldo got insurance as he is only 23 years old, and most insurance companies wouldn't touch him for this car under 25 !! Money talks though doesn't it !

AccyLass 09-01-2009 17:47

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 667602)



Amazed how Ronaldo got insurance as he is only 23 years old, and most insurance companies wouldn't touch him for this car under 25 !! Money talks though doesn't it !


The name might of helped too ;) lol

Although, I bet they wouldn't of insured Mickey Mouse :D

***Mr D*** 09-01-2009 17:50

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 667602)
Amazed how Ronaldo got insurance as he is only 23 years old, and most insurance companies wouldn't touch him for this car under 25 !! Money talks though doesn't it !

It would be very, very expensive, but that wouldnt worry him.

Most companies wouldnt touch him because he is a footballer.

churchman phil 09-01-2009 18:27

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The insurance was probably done through the clubs brokers.

Neil 09-01-2009 18:29

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Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 667461)
We have a Trans Am and that is a left hand drive, I've never known him to drive on the wrong side of the road with it lol

Am I right in saying the biggest problem is that you can't see when over taking cars. That includes buses and other vehicles that are stopped at the side of the road. Do those little mirror things help at all that you can get?

Car parks must be fun too as the pay booth is on the wrong side :D

Royboy39 09-01-2009 20:30

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 667597)
I have no problem with left-hand drive.;)

Luckily I dont have a problem with left hand drive in the UK or right hand drive in Europe.....the answer is dont chase about like a blue arsed fly.
Dont follow too close and wait for a safe opportunity to overtake....if you cant see....dont do it. ;)

Neil 09-01-2009 23:32

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 667673)
Dont follow too close and wait for a safe opportunity to overtake....if you cant see....dont do it. ;)

Sometimes you have no choice but to pass a vehicle.

jaysay 10-01-2009 09:00

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 667602)
Even with a left hand drive car ... first time out in America managed to almost crunch someone's wing mirror, forgetting had a lot more car to my right ... :o



Amazed how Ronaldo got insurance as he is only 23 years old, and most insurance companies wouldn't touch him for this car under 25 !! Money talks though doesn't it !

Quite right too kate, and he probably earns more in a week (and I use the term earns very losely)than you and me get in 10 years

jaysay 10-01-2009 09:02

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Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 667604)
The name might of helped too ;) lol

Although, I bet they wouldn't of insured Mickey Mouse :D

Why, has he signed for United too:D

Benipete 10-01-2009 11:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 667780)
Why, has he signed for United too:D

Must have got him mixed up with Mickey Rooney:D:D

jaysay 10-01-2009 13:56

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 667880)
Must have got him mixed up with Mickey Rooney:D:D

Of course silly me:D

AccyLass 10-01-2009 14:45

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 667614)
Am I right in saying the biggest problem is that you can't see when over taking cars. That includes buses and other vehicles that are stopped at the side of the road. Do those little mirror things help at all that you can get?

Car parks must be fun too as the pay booth is on the wrong side :D


I asked him and he said, parked cars and buses are no problem cos you could see from quite a way back if the road was clear... moving traffic is harder, but you just pull further back in order to see to over take...

As for car parks and things that have the paybooths on the right.... he has to reverse thro Mc Donald's drive thro!:D


(That was a joke before I get linched :p)

jaysay 10-01-2009 14:47

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Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 667951)
I asked him and he said, parked cars and buses are no problem cos you could see from quite a way back if the road was clear... moving traffic is harder, but you just pull further back in order to see to over take...

As for car parks and things that have the paybooths on the right.... he has to reverse thro Mc Donald's drive thro!:D


(That was a joke before I get linched :p)

Ya but not much of one AccyLass:do-one:

AccyLass 10-01-2009 14:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 667952)
Ya but not much of one AccyLass:do-one:

:p

Neil 10-01-2009 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 667951)
As for car parks and things that have the paybooths on the right.... he has to reverse thro Mc Donald's drive thro!:D


(That was a joke before I get linched :p)

There is no sign saying please drive through forward so it must be ok to reverse through :D

AccyLass 10-01-2009 15:01

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 667959)
There is no sign saying please drive through forward so it must be ok to reverse through :D


I'll have a look next time we go;) lol

mr_flibble 10-01-2009 15:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 667430)
thing I've never understood why there needs to be road cars which can do 205mph, its just tempting Boy Racers to break the law

Well why shouldnt there be cars that can do 205mph? Just because my car can do 170 doesnt mean im going to do that in the middle of accy town centre does it?

As for the left hand drive cars thing, its not a matter of what side your steering wheel is on its just a matter of being used to the roads in question, i've driven on english, french, german and american roads in lots of different cars of both left and right hand drive construction and never had a problem... and nobody should do so long as they pay attention to what they are doing.

Eric 10-01-2009 17:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 667602)
Even with a left hand drive car ... first time out in America managed to almost crunch someone's wing mirror, forgetting had a lot more car to my right ... :o



Amazed how Ronaldo got insurance as he is only 23 years old, and most insurance companies wouldn't touch him for this car under 25 !! Money talks though doesn't it !

I don't think that the problem was too much car when you almost hit someone .... I think it might just have been a loose nut behind the steering wheel;)

Royboy39 10-01-2009 18:33

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I understand there is to be an exercise in Ireland to test the system for a change from left to right. The cars are to change on Monday and if it works the Buses and Wagons will be changed the week after? :hesoff::alright:

SPUGGIE J 10-01-2009 19:42

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 667590)
I dont think many boy racers will drive cars that can do 205mph. Thats why Citroen built the Saxo.:D

Most cars can break the speed limit.


The Saxo was designed appeal to brain dead boy racers. :p

katex 10-01-2009 23:55

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 667993)
I don't think that the problem was too much car when you almost hit someone .... I think it might just have been a loose nut behind the steering wheel;)

I know Eric, but I think it was probably more to do with my Chestnuts ... :hidewall:

joaner3 11-01-2009 01:34

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I have no problem with left hand drive

Neil 11-01-2009 07:10

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Originally Posted by mr_flibble (Post 667980)
Well why shouldnt there be cars that can do 205mph? Just because my car can do 170 doesnt mean im going to do that in the middle of accy town centre does it?

Well why shouldn't I be able to walk around with a hand gun on my belt like John Wayne? Just because I could shoot someone dead does not mean I will do.

Same argument.

You might not do 170mph but you can be damn sure many people have done.

jaysay 11-01-2009 09:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668142)
Well why shouldn't I be able to walk around with a hand gun on my belt like John Wayne? Just because I could shoot someone dead does not mean I will do.

Same argument.

You might not do 170mph but you can be damn sure many people have done.

You only have to watch programs on TV such as Road Wars to see what havoc brain dead ******* can do with souped up cars that they can't hand, cars are meant to be a convenience to get you from A to B to case up and down roads a 170mph +.People who want these type of cars should learn to drive and join a formula 1 team

Taggy 11-01-2009 09:54

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668142)
Well why shouldn't I be able to walk around with a hand gun on my belt like John Wayne? Just because I could shoot someone dead does not mean I will do.

Same argument.

You might not do 170mph but you can be damn sure many people have

done.


The way Ronaldo goes down in the tackle, you'd think John Wayne had already got to him!


Best Regards - Taggy

jaysay 11-01-2009 10:09

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 668179)
The way Ronaldo goes down in the tackle, you'd think John Wayne had already got to him!


Best Regards - Taggy

Well they did say he was rolling around in the outside lane like he'd been shot by a Japanese snipper, an when quized by the police he said the wall wasn't ten yards way:D

Eric 11-01-2009 10:13

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Originally Posted by joaner3 (Post 668131)
I have no problem with left hand drive

Ok ... but when you guys from Quebec drive in Ontario, please try to remember that you can make a right turn on a red;):D

Taggy 11-01-2009 10:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 668188)
Well they did say he was rolling around in the outside lane like he'd been shot by a Japanese snipper, an when quized by the police he said the wall wasn't ten yards way:D

LOL!!! Nice One!!:)

Best Regards - Taggy

Studio25 11-01-2009 10:28

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668142)
Well why shouldn't I be able to walk around with a hand gun on my belt like John Wayne? Just because I could shoot someone dead does not mean I will do...

Reminds me of the urban legend:
Quote:

A female newscaster is interviewing the leader of a Youth club:

Interviewer: So, Mr. Jones, what are you going to do with these children on this adventure holiday?

Mr Jones: We're going to teach them climbing, abseiling, canoeing, archery, shooting...

Interviewer: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible isn't it?

Jones: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the range.

Interviewer: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

Jones: I don't see how, we will be teaching them proper range discipline before they even touch a firearm.

Interviewer: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

Jones: Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute but you're not one are you?

Needless to say, the interview was terminated almost immediately.
And, of course, its followup...
Quote:

A couple went on vacation to a fishing resort up north. The husband liked to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife liked to read.

One morning the husband returned after several hours of fishing and decided to take a short nap. Although she wasn't familiar with the lake, the wife decided to take the boat out.

She rowed out a short distance, anchored, and returned to reading her book. Along came the sheriff in his boat. He pulled up alongside her and said, "Good morning, Ma'am. What are you doing?"

"Reading my book" she replies as she thinks to herself, "Isn't it obvious?"

"You're in a restricted fishing area," he informed her.

"But officer, I'm not fishing. Can't you see that?"

"Yes, but you have all the equipment. I'll have to take you in and write you up."

"If you do that, I'll have to charge you with rape," snapped the irate woman.

"But, I haven't even touched you," groused the sheriff.

"Yes, that's true," she replied, "but you do have all the equipment."

mani 12-01-2009 17:24

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a family friend of my brother in law recently got hit by a european trucker whilst parked on the hard shoulder

mr_flibble 12-01-2009 23:53

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 668163)
You only have to watch programs on TV such as Road Wars to see what havoc brain dead ******* can do with souped up cars that they can't hand, cars are meant to be a convenience to get you from A to B to case up and down roads a 170mph +.People who want these type of cars should learn to drive and join a formula 1 team


So because some people are fools then it should ruin the fun for the rest of us?

Cars were never suppost to be a convenience, thats why most of the original car companys all made sports cars.

But out of interest, if 170mph is too much then what speed should they be able to do?

Perhaps you might argue that all cars should be electronically limited to 70mph or whatever the local limit is? But then what happens to safe overtaking? if the car in front is doing 60 on a 70mph road and i want to over take im not going to be able to do it in a safe manner with a car restricted to 70.

What most people seem to forget is that its not the 200 mph super cars that get clocked speeding on a daily basis, its the ford focus taking the kids to school etc doing 35 in a 30.

jaysay 13-01-2009 10:55

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Originally Posted by mr_flibble (Post 668711)
So because some people are fools then it should ruin the fun for the rest of us?

Cars were never suppost to be a convenience, thats why most of the original car companys all made sports cars.

But out of interest, if 170mph is too much then what speed should they be able to do?

Perhaps you might argue that all cars should be electronically limited to 70mph or whatever the local limit is? But then what happens to safe overtaking? if the car in front is doing 60 on a 70mph road and i want to over take im not going to be able to do it in a safe manner with a car restricted to 70.
What most people seem to forget is that its not the 200 mph super cars that get clocked speeding on a daily basis, its the ford focus taking the kids to school etc doing 35 in a 30.

Well if you keep breaking the 70mph speed limit you won't have a licence long, which seems like a good idea myself. The legal limit to drive on the roads in this country is 70mph. That is why people who bomb up and down the motorways at 100, 110, 120 mph don't hold onto their licenses long, if your caught doing 100+ is an automatic ban and quite right to. If people want to drive these souped up cars a breakneck speeds try Brands Hatch or Silverstone no the M1 and M6

***Mr D*** 13-01-2009 11:44

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 668756)
Well if you keep breaking the 70mph speed limit you won't have a licence long, which seems like a good idea myself. The legal limit to drive on the roads in this country is 70mph. That is why people who bomb up and down the motorways at 100, 110, 120 mph don't hold onto their licenses long, if your caught doing 100+ is an automatic ban and quite right to. If people want to drive these souped up cars a breakneck speeds try Brands Hatch or Silverstone no the M1 and M6

Do you drive?

Speed IMO = Time and Place.

IMO 100MPH on a emply motorway at 1am isnt to bad, a higher powered car will handle at that speed no problem, a low powered car will not be so cleaver at that speed.

100Mph on a busy motorway, is dangeress.

I would say 90% of people exceed 70Mph on a motorway.

Neil 13-01-2009 13:04

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Originally Posted by mr_flibble (Post 668711)
Perhaps you might argue that all cars should be electronically limited to 70mph or whatever the local limit is? But then what happens to safe overtaking? if the car in front is doing 60 on a 70mph road and i want to over take im not going to be able to do it in a safe manner with a car restricted to 70.

What a load of twodle. So you are saying that to safely over take a car doing 60 you have to break the law? Come on you can think of a better argument than than.

If the speed limit is 70 how can it be ok to drive faster than 70 just so you can over take?
If you can't over take without speeding then it is not a safe place to pass.

Wagons are limited - do we see them crashing because they could not go faster?

I also agree that cars should be speed restricted but I think it should be 80mph and the motor limit raised to 80mph.
Not only that but I think the engines power output should be limited depending on the type of vehicle.

Come on Ian I know you will want to get involved with this one ;)

Neil 13-01-2009 13:19

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668773)
I would say 90% of people exceed 70Mph on a motorway.

Do you ever sit at 70mph? If not try it and see how many cars you actually pass, you might be surprised.

***Mr D*** 13-01-2009 13:58

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668824)
Do you ever sit at 70mph? If not try it and see how many cars you actually pass, you might be surprised.

I dont do a lot of driving, I try to walk when I can plus I drive a V6 so it likes to eat petrol.:(

However, yes I have drove at a steady 70Mph on numorous motorways, I would agree that some jorneys at 70-75 avarage, still no one has passed me and I find myself overtaking them. but on others I find 70mph, you are being overtaken by loads of cars. Suppose it could relate to time and place.

My comment was that 90% of people do not stick to under 70Mph all the time.

Neil 13-01-2009 14:30

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On my 70mph drive to work and back I pass lots of cars and yes some do pass me. You might be right with 90% do exceed 70mph sometimes but not all the time. It does not make it right though does it?

I stick to 70mph or less because it makes a difference to the amount of fuel I use. I do about 300 miles each week going to work but I do only average just over 4 days a week. Not a lot compared to some but enough for me to see what goes on on the roads and want to save some fuel.

***Mr D*** 13-01-2009 15:08

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668840)
On my 70mph drive to work and back I pass lots of cars and yes some do pass me. You might be right with 90% do exceed 70mph sometimes but not all the time. It does not make it right though does it?

I stick to 70mph or less because it makes a difference to the amount of fuel I use. I do about 300 miles each week going to work but I do only average just over 4 days a week. Not a lot compared to some but enough for me to see what goes on on the roads and want to save some fuel.

I agree it does not make it right, but is a limit of 70Mph realistick (SP) with todays vehicles, with improved performance, handling, brakes ect. I mean I can do 100Mph in 3rd gear.

I would agree if I stick to 70mph the consumption of fuel is far, far better than if I drive a bit faster. and 300 Miles Per week to me is a lot, It would cost me at least £60 a week. this is one of the main reasons I have not gone for a manchester job.

Neil 13-01-2009 15:50

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668845)
I agree it does not make it right, but is a limit of 70Mph realistick (SP) with todays vehicles, with improved performance, handling, brakes ect. I mean I can do 100Mph in 3rd gear.

But don't forget with all the improvements you mention there are still us humans behind the wheel making mistakes.

It still takes a long time to stop when you are doing 70mph and a car has just pulled into the side of your car on the motorway because they did not look properly before pulling out and nudged you into the crash barrier.

A few months ago I just missed a car that went up the bank into some trees on the M6. The car was on its side resting on a small tree. I suspect the driver was dead because they had the "did you witness an accident board out the next day".

70mph up the grass bank with a blown out tyre must be scary as well.

jaysay 13-01-2009 16:06

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668773)
Do you drive?

Speed IMO = Time and Place.

IMO 100MPH on a emply motorway at 1am isnt to bad, a higher powered car will handle at that speed no problem, a low powered car will not be so cleaver at that speed.

100Mph on a busy motorway, is dangeress.

I would say 90% of people exceed 70Mph on a motorway.

Mr D I used to drive for a living, unfortunately due to health problems I don't now. 100mph at 1am might not be to bad but its still breaking the law, end of. And of course people do over 70mph on the motorway, its the nature of the beast, but it doesn't make it right and if your caught you suffer the consequences, fines, penalty points, and we all know what points make, prizes and the top prizes is a copper running down the road with your licence, shouting sucker:rolleyes:

***Mr D*** 13-01-2009 16:18

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 668864)
But don't forget with all the improvements you mention there are still us humans behind the wheel making mistakes.

It still takes a long time to stop when you are doing 70mph and a car has just pulled into the side of your car on the motorway because they did not look properly before pulling out and nudged you into the crash barrier.

True, and i suppose you could say with all this technology in cars we feel a lot safer and dont realise the actual risk.

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 668874)
Mr D I used to drive for a living, unfortunately due to health problems I don't now. 100mph at 1am might not be to bad but its still breaking the law, end of. And of course people do over 70mph on the motorway, its the nature of the beast, but it doesn't make it right and if your caught you suffer the consequences, fines, penalty points, and we all know what points make, prizes and the top prizes is a copper running down the road with your licence, shouting sucker:rolleyes:

Fair play. Do the crime do the time.

Anyway I find its them bikers that are usually speeding.:D

jaysay 13-01-2009 16:26

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668878)
True, and i suppose you could say with all this technology in cars we feel a lot safer and dont realise the actual risk.



Fair play. Do the crime do the time.

Anyway I find its them bikers that are usually speeding.:D

For heavens sack Mr. D, don't upset entwisi:D

Neil 13-01-2009 23:30

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668878)
Anyway I find its them bikers that are usually speeding.:D

You are right, they should be banned. Most bikers are unsafe idiots.

Car manufacturers spend millions to make cars safer with air bags, crumple zones, pre tensioners blah blah blah.

What do they do to make bikes safe? Suggest you hold the handle bars tighter :D

Speedy 15-01-2009 00:06

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 668773)
Do you drive?

Speed IMO = Time and Place.

IMO 100MPH on a emply motorway at 1am isnt to bad, a higher powered car will handle at that speed no problem, a low powered car will not be so cleaver at that speed.

100Mph on a busy motorway, is dangeress.

I would say 90% of people exceed 70Mph on a motorway.

Couldn't agree more, speeding is always viewed as a huge problem but the main issue is speeding at the wrong time in the wrong place.


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