New waste tax of £100
 

MPs may be denied vote on £100 bin tax - Times Online

And we still vote for these idiots!!
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They can impose what they want, if you don't pay it they have a crack set of government thugs to collect the money, otherwise known as bailliffs :rolleyes:

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Fly Tippers Charter,

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How do they propose to decide who is putting out to much waste?

I live on my own and usually when I put my bin out it's only half full, by the time the bin men arrive however my neighbours have used the room to dispose of their extra waste, I don't mind after all it's better in my bin than left on the street, but what happens if because of this practice the powers that be decide that I'm from a single household and therefore I should be fined for my neighbours rubbish?

What am I supposed to do, stand next to my bin until it's collected to ensure no other waste goes in?
Padlock the bin and get the binman to call for a key?
Photograph the level of my bin at the time I put it out?
Put a label with my name and address on the bin bags to prove which of the rubbish in the bin is mine and which has been dumped on me?

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I have the same problem as Less.....with the addition of dog crap sometimes

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It sounds like you be be charged deffernet in you have a small or a large bin. Single people would have a small bin, families a big bin I suppose. I thought families already paid more council tax by living in bigger more expensive houses.

Then again it would be fairer to charge council tax based on the number of occupants and not the property value.

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Wasn't that the idea behind the infamous Poll Tax?

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This might affect me, my bin is always full but very rare the lid wont close (if i cant fit it in the bin i take a trip up to the tip) but some of my rubbish is weighty, the boys nappies for example, will have to see if it does. I only have 1 bin, but many people round me seem to have aquired a 2nd or even 3rd bin so how would that affect them?

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You mean some kind of Poll Tax Neil,:confused: could have sworn I' heard of that before, but maybe not:rolleyes:

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Roads and street lights are paid for by Road Tax.
Police, Fire Brigade, MP's, Coast Guard, schools and colleges are paid from taxes.
Hospitals and ambulances are paid for by national insurance contributions
Lifeboats, Mountain Rescue and Air ambulances are funded by charities.

That leaves Counciillors and Refuse Collections paid for by the Council tax (did I miss anything out?)
Councillors mustbe after a pay rise then.

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I don't think you understand what County and Local Councils do or even where your Council tax and other taxes go.

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wont people on benefit not pay this?

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Roads and Street lighting are maintained by the County Council out of Council Tax, as are Police, Fire Brigade, Schools, Hospitals and Ambulance service out of General Taxation
Did you miss anything out, well anything that makes sense really:hehetable

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yet another rule to encourage fly tipping , these idiots keep complaining about fly tippers yet the penny hasnt dropped that every time they make peoples disposing of waste more difficult or expensive the more fly tipping occurs

knob heads the lot of them

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Looks like we are not the only council with this problem, although I do agree with some of the comments just due to the mentality of people who would do it no matter what system is in place :

Darwen turned into 'cesspit' by flytippers (From Lancashire Telegraph)

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I have read the balance sheets and I understand fully what they do and what they spend the money on, it just does not make any sense.

No. Roads and street lighting should be maintained out of 'Road Tax', the clue is in the name of that particular tax.

Income Tax should pay for the other services such as police and fire brigade etc. and Council tax should pay for local services.

Darn, too busy making a living in the real world to make sense of politicians.

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Well unfortunately that's the way its always been, and politics is the real world if you haven't noticed, politics rules every waking moment of everybody's lives, and Its no use sticking your head in the sand and thinking it does affect you, because it does

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The reason Darwen is a cesspit has nothing to do with fly tippers, I know I have lived there as well ;)

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It's only been like that since accountants took over the asylum. As for thinking it doesn't affect me, I am well aware of the effects of the numerous taxes which they burden us with.
As for Politics being the real world, I am afraid to say you are quite correct. If we want to raise more money, we have to come up with a plan to increase profit. If politicians want to raise money, they can just invent a new tax.

As we have seen from the way banks and financial institutions have been run over the past decade or so, it seems that the same mentality of council finance has been adopted by the banks, with disasterous results. The number of other businesses failing at the moment suggests that they too have been living on borrowed time for far too long and this whole mess was bound to happen sooner or later.

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yeah there are idiots that will fly tip regardless but if councils took rubbish away weekly ,without leaving a disgusting mess and reliably like many other councils manage to do then a lot of the fly tipping would be irradicated

i once rang the council to remove an item from my back yard and was told to leave my gate unlocked and it woudl be removed withing 10 working days which is totaly unacceptable as i had items in my yard that i dint want stealing by somone been able to simply walk in and take them so i put it out in the back alley and reported that somone had dumped a fridge freezer on my back alley

what do you know , withing 2 hours a guy turned up with a clipboard who then rang teh collections department and it was taken away the same day

this was 4 years ago but the last time i was unfortunate enough to have to need HBC's services for removing rubbish i was told to leave my gate open which i had to do duee to not having a back alley this time and 2 weeks after my call the item had still not been removed and took a further 5 phonecalls/reminders before the item was taken away

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Labour Councillors looked at this 2 years ago and the Conservatives were too. We wanted to consider giving a discount for recycling.

However any sort of discounting/Council Tax reductions is not going to happen because Hyndburn's systems for collecting the data, and turning it into billing info is not possible. A whole new system being put in place at other authorities is in excess of £1million and probably higher.

Furthermore and more important, Whinney Hill Recycling Centre will separate all rubbish and extract 90% eventually. So it may be back to everyone doing the same unless there is a decision to separate at kerbside to avoid contamination - paper mainly.

It's a complete rubbish story in effect !!!!!!

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on the news lately they are showing warehouses all over teh country full of recycled materials which cant be sold and are going to end up in landfill making everyones efforts at recycling pointless

at the moment a lot of peopel are going out of their way to recycle , warehouses are been paid for to store the unwanted recycled goods and wages are been paid to run these places all for it to end up in land fill

maybe rubbish shoudl be thrown directly out to the tip and let teh people who make money out of recycleing get their hands didrty extracting what they can sell from the tip and not leave it down to us

at the moment people are washing and seperating their rubbish,seperate rounds for collecting it are been run only for it to end up where it would anyway on the tip because no one wants to buy it

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I wondered why no one came for my paper the other week when i left it out!!!