Carole Thatchter
 

Carole is an orrible moron.. just like her mum.. dad .. and brother.. been banned (for a while) for calling a black tennis player a "gollywog"..slip of the tongue we may say..but how much longer do we have to suffer these people who recieve a very nice salary from the media letting their personal thoughts creep into an already sensitive situation... my view.. what a family.. the dregs of Maggie.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I won't judge this on anything other than what she said, because I'm not going to prejudice her because of her mother, her birth. I very much agree with a media lawyer that was on the BBC this evening. Everything has to be taken in context. When something is said in reference to a Jam Jar cartoon, that was not said in a derogatory way at all, then I think the action taken was wrong on this occasion. The same word said in a derogatory way would indeed lead to severe consequences.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Well andrewb.. you are getting hard core from your early.. more liberal days..calling a black person a gollywog is now accepted by you.. is that the officail party line? or is the unofficial accepted off line Tory speak.. you lead me to believe it is the latter.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I dont speak of the party line. I speak what I think. If you say something in a derogatory way then its wrong. Clearly in this context it wasn't in a derogatory way. Context is key. Take it out of context to appease your hatred if you wish.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

In what context would you call someone a Gollywog?.. am I missing something here?..to call someone a Gollywog or nignog has been ...we hoped ..gone by long ago.. but you and your old Eton boys jolly hockey stick brigade still insist it is your right to call people names you deem fit... wake up .. those days have gone.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

just as a last.. there are white people in this country that do care about this nation and are fed up with the constant cat calls of "get back home you black ...".. the notion that to be non white means you have not been born here.. the notion that if you are not white you are a threat...I am a white English and I love my country.. I'lm willing to fight for my country.. but I will not fight for people that pertian to be English but are detemind to smash anything that does not suit the cosy world they happen to live in.. just beacause they think or .... if it's cosy.. makes them English.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Well, one person makes an of the cuff comment in a room with 12 people, another makes sexually innuendo on a Radio show, one is sacked the other is given a sugar lump a pat on the head and don't do it again now have a nice holiday then go back and earn your £6 million salary, something smacks of double standards here, or somebody with a personal political agenda:rolleyes:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Again your hatred, of somebody's mother, is getting in the way of rationality. It's all about context, its all about whether it was said in a derogatory way. It's all about a generational thing too. I myself have accused somebody, wrongly, of saying something in a derogatory way on this very forum, because I took it out of context. Looking back on it, I was wrong, because the guy didn't mean it in an offensive way. Nether did Carol Thatcher.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Carole is the ONLY Thatcher i like..
When i was a kid i had a big beautiful golliwog ,which i loved,, Plus i used to collect the little metal badges off the jam pots...

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

I think everybody had those badges GC, now its a sacking offence just to refer to one, just where is all this utter madness going to end, if its not the PC brigade its the elf and safety fascists:(

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Just like you, I wasn't in the Green Room that day so I didn't hear the dreadful word first hand. From what I have, subsequently, read Carole Thatcher, who I neither like nor dislike, didn't call a black person a golliwog, she said he had hair like a golliwog.

One of the first "craft" things I did at school was to make a golliwog out of coloured felt. The hair was twisted black wool that stood out round the head. We didn't consider we were making images of black people, we were making toys.

I am so sick of the ridiculous political correctness that sweeps into everything these days. Hardly anyone dares to make the most innocently intended remark in case it offends someone. You can swear as much as you like, use every obscenity you can think of and it hardly causes a ripple but say the word Golliwog and you're out.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I too have fond memories of owning a golliwog toy and of collecting the badges from the jam. I don't think I ever once thought of a person as a golliwog, to me they were simply toys that had jet black faces and curly hair - I didn't, and to some degree still don't, connect it with a racial stereotype.

Things have changed though and as someone in the media, Carol Thatcher should know that. She should have developed a sort of inbuilt censoring device which tells you not to say these things in a group of people that you do not know or trust very well. Whether it was back stage or whether it was out of context is almost irrelevant, it was just stupid of her to say it.

However, I do think that the panic that it has caused is out of proportion given the context she used it in.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I used the term 'golliwog' many, Mani, years ago, yes I owned one as a toddler, he was my best friend through the toddler stage he was treated with love not derision, when I got older I collected the badges, again no disrespect for the image or what it might represent these badges often represented some of man's greatest achievement which surely meant it was an attitude of inclusion of the black man rather than his exclusion?

Having said all that, I'd rather have a golliwog in power than a Thatcher!
:golly:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

The Queen has taken Golliwog's off the shelf in her shop at Sandringham.

The Press Association: Royal gift shop's golliwog apology

Goodness knows what Prince Charles will be able to give his friends for Christmas now.

:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Carole has more than a touch of the Fuzzy-Wuzzy in her herself.

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Which could explain her own hair.

:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I don't dislike Carole Thatcher. and if anything feel sorry for her -having Maggie as a mother must be a cross to bare and at least, unlike her brother Sir Mark, she hasn't (as yet) tried to organise a coup in an African country. But she should have been more careful in what she said in the Green Room.
About 12 months ago my daughter was in London (en route to a union meeting) and she was sat near to Carole Thathcher on the Tube - she was very tempted to say to her 'My mother hates your mother'.

For Andrew (before he gets any ideas that my daughter was abusing expenses by travelling to London) my daughter lives in Kent and the regional office of her union is in London.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I would imagine she's got used to that by now!

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

If anyone should be sacked it's the oversensitive, mard-arse Adrian Chiles, who was allegedly offended by whatever Carol Thatcher said. I hope West Brom are relegated.:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I find Adrian Chiles's Brummy accent offensive, and his million pound salary.:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Anyone that grasses a fellow worker up should be shot.It's just not British.:uzi:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

...unless that worker is stealing all the company assests, and there's a possibility you might not get paid that month, or might lose your job altogether if the firm closes.

Then it's ok to grass, before shooting them.;)

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

comment was much less offensive than n aussie calling me a pommie barsteward, n i do not find that offensive. far more offensive than her comment is what "Ross" got away with,in my book. much ado about nowt in my book.:rolleyes:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I would imagine that families with young children would find it far more offensive for the "f---" word to be broadcast at 6.55 just as they were sitting down to their breakfasts, as it was this morning on BBC1.

Reckon the BBC are losing it somewhat.

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

Well they did make a grovelling apology as the show was closing at 9-15, the thing is Carole didn't actually call the tennis player a Golliwog, she said his hair resemble that of a Golliwog, which makes it even more ridiculous

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

i might have misheard ,but i think David Platt came out with that word on Corrie,,,cor that was supposed to be a family show

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

It just gets worse for the Beeb...now Clarkson has called Gord "a one-eyed Scottish idiot".

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I think it's about time we had a reasonable BBC licence fee. It's a tax, lets be honest. Why are we not paying for it based on income?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Means tests need admin - the costs of administering such fees would use up a big chunk of whatever fees were gathered - not economic to do that

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Not really economic for a poor family to pay as much as a rich one to get vital news information..

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Having spent a large chunk of my career applying means tests - just take my word for it - assessing each individual family's ability to pay would cost so much that the actual fee would go through the roof and the poorest families would pay more than they pay now

PS and there would have to be a staffed fraud dept for the ones who lie

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

He's aplogised Wynonie, but only for making remarks about his personal appearance ... not the other bit ... :D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

They Don't pay as much. They usually buy the 'Sun' or 'Daily Star', whereas the better off purchase 'The Daily Torygraph' or 'The Times'.;)

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I wouldn't wish to argue with you on practicality. I am sure you're right. However I still ponder why there was a huge fuss made over the poll tax, and yet not over the BBC licence fee. Since the BBC is essentially a tax, and our government already have a way of raking it in based on income, could this not be used?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

andrew the introduction many years ago of the poll tax was a financial disaster to many lower paid families n yer wondering?:confused: around 1990 my poll tax was £800 per year, BBC licence was just oer £50 i think, def less than £100 n yer pondering why no fuss oer BBC. lol

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

There is continually a fuss about the BBC licence fee. It's the most outdated tax ever!!!!!

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

agree its most outdated ever, but cannot see a comparison between that n Poll Tax regarding fuss.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

If you applied poll tax rules to the licence fee it would be mayhem
Six people can watch tv in one house and all 6 have to pay a fee = ridiculous!!!
...and there will be some who never watch(allegedly) - try proving that they do:rolleyes:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

There shouldn't be a licence for the BBC in the first place.

Take it away and they might just start being a bit more careful with how they spend their cash and not waste it on ridiculously overpaid and incapable presenters.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Spot on Gayle if they had to work to raise the money like he independent TV companies have to, people like Ross wouldn't get such outrageous salaries

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Well, I am aware that the poll tax was very expensive, and I'm against it, the introduction of it was wrong. The similarities I see are that it was a flat tax because 'everyone uses the same services', well the BBC is a flat tax. As I don't believe in a flat tax on income, because it punishes the poor, I am wondering why people are not creating a fuss about the BBC licence being a flat tax. It is £139, which is not as much as rates, but £139 none the less.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Andrew am I reading this post correctly, you have actually said that you are against something that was Conservative Party policy. I will make an entry in my diary, so that next time anyone says you always agree with Conservative Policy, i will be able to say 'no, he did not agree with the Poll Tax'.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

i like her, it wasnt said or meant in a nasty way and she is NOTHING like her mother, she has been repremanded because she is in the public eye, if you or i said it there wouldnt be this great big fuss

get over it world

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

Well claytonender make another note because I was totally against it too:D

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

Ok I will make a note.

Although did you try to dissuade the government at the time they first proposed enacting the legislation.

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

to right I did, it may have been good Idea for properties down south but for properties like here in Hyndburn it was ill thought out, the concept was okay, but the application was crass, to say the least. Because your a member of a political party doesn't mean you have to support that party come-what-may

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Did think the poll tax was harsh .. particularly if there were more than one adult in the house, however, as myself being one adult plus young child never thought the old rates system was fair either, as was paying the same as 'more adult' occupied houses.

Think the council tax now is pretty fair ... but that is because there is just me and get 25% discount. Still doesn't seem fair for 2 adults only though as against 4 adults in the next house. Never will be perfect, but council tax is a reasonable compromise.

Re: Carole Thatcher
 

I agree with you (must be one of the only times):):)

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

This topic has really made my blood boil, more than anything has for a very long time. Yes I know I need to get a life.

But common sense has to prevail it wasn't just a random black person. It was somebody who had a distinct look of a "very huggable Golliwog" just like the guy who looks like a thumb. Same difference.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

She was indiscreet but it wasn't worthy of all this fuss.
There are far worse words used on tv

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

This is the second time in two days you made me nearly fall off my stoll, where do you come up with these pics Margaret:D:D:D:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I look at the political cartoons before I read the news
The Independant is especially good for that
Opinion - The Independent

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

If you keep falling off your stool, either go more regularly, get a larger toilet or stop reading accyweb whilst you're in there!
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Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Well looks like most posters have jumped to the defence of "Carole"... seems it's OK to call black people gollywogs because there was once one on a jar of jam or you had a gollywog badge when you were little... well jolly hockey sticks, I wonder if miss Thatcher would call Serena Williams that name in person?..no.. perhaps the prostpect of a swift right hander would have made her think better of it!

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Surely, the people most able to judge whether the remark's offensive or not are the people who would be on the receiving end of it. And as the vast majority of black people who have expressed their views seem to think that it is offensive to a greater or lesser extent, then, yes, she was out of order. But, in my opinion, the BBC have hugely over-reacted. A rap across the knuckles and an apology would've been enough. That odious creep Ross's humiliation of an elderly man was far worse and he's still kept his job complete with vastly over-inflated salary.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

not really a matter of defending her, matter of the big deal made of it. nowt in comparison to what "Ross" got away with.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

like I say.. seems the reaction is to call black people gollywogs is no big deal.. why then don't you try it out on a black person? you all think it's no big thing..try it out.. call a black man/woman you do not know in person a gollywog.. then it could turn out to be a "big deal"...some do call black people niggers or nig nogs when in what they presume is an enviroment were no offence will be taken.. but for myself I don't like that sort of stuff.. because it puts me under pressure to laugh or confront that person... so again .. why call a black person a gollywog?.. and why should you get away with it?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I wouldn't dream of calling a black person a golliwog because I know they'd probably be offended. I also wouldn't dream of phoning a 78-year old man and leaving smutty remarks about his grandaughter on his ansaphone. The fact is that the BBC have been totally inconsistent in their approach. In fact, they've made things worse in Carole Thatcher's case by reviving a word which had by and large fallen out of common usage, all of which could've been avoided by a quiet reprimand behind the scenes.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

dont think anyone would dream of calling em one, nor would i dream even less of doing what ross n brand did, some can't see the differance in severity.:rolleyes: n as fer calling a black person "nigger" as mancie says, i hear black people call each other that occasionally, n same with certain words of other ethnic origins, seems to me many of em don't make such a big deal or they wouldn't use it themselves, or is it only wrong for whites to use these words?:rolleyes:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I'm not saying that carole thatcher should be punished up for calling someome gollywog.OK it's a word/description of something..nothing more, but do we all in everyday talk speak about black people as gollywogs? ..seems so.. move on ... sort yerselves out..gollywog.. niggers.. coon.. are accepted between black people.. as is pomme bastard between white people..but .come on .. we all know what is right and wrong to say in certian enviroments.. and to call someone a gollywog is not on.. it's down to the BBC what they deem as punishment.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

make yer mind up you started the thread, think as in yer opening post, its you who is letting personal thoughts come into this. most sane people despise her mam, but this is summat else.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Of course I agree with you, but it does confuse people when words that were once used to demean a person, are then reclaimed. The past term of abuse is neutralised through a political reclamation.

A black person can call another black friend nigger, and that's ok.

The same thing has happened with homophobic names like queer.

Happily I think the vast majority of people wouldn't wish to offend anyone purely on the colour of their skin.

Perhaps Ms. Thatcher would have been ok to use the 'g' word, if she herself had been a golly.

:D

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Oh is it indeed? Well, as far as I'm concerned, WE the British public have every right to make our opinion felt about how the BBC conducts its affairs because we pay their excessive salaries, their inflation-proof pensions, their self-indulgent programming schedules, the ridiculous fees they pay to non-talents like Ross (far in excess of what commercial broadcasters pay) out of OUR hardearned money. And from where I'm standing, they applied a totally inconsistent attitude to Thatcher's and Ross's misdemeanors and if I want to express an opinion about it, I sodding well will, so don't go telling me that it's "down the BBC" like they're some kind of superior moral authority...we pay their licence fee and they are OUR public servants! :mad:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

make my mind up?..my mind was made up when I posted the thread and has not changed..if you mean I've soften on my post then I don't think so... wether it's Carole Thatcher or anyone else in what they say/do in public life is an isssue for exactly that.. they say things that will be scrutinised... if you think I soften on the attitude that you can call a black person a gollywog, nigger, coon, nignog and get away with it in the real world then of course you can in the pub full of white people... but I'm saying Carole Thatcher and her ilk would not.. and you know as well as me you would not.. so why say it in a room full of white peole and expect to get away with it ?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Hear, hear.

Not that it'll make the slightest bit of difference, but normally Radio 2 plays most of the time in my home, but it gets switched off on Saturday morning, whilst Ross's show's on.

I don't have to make a conscience desicion not to watch his tv programme, as that's been dross for ages, and is just a platform for him to be 'funny', and the guests are just a filler.

I'm hoping he becomes the Simon Dee of this millenium, and vanishes from public view, and thus saving us all the bother of paying him £17 milion quid.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

It always amuses me when we generalise about a group of people, in this case black people.

All people can be prejudiced, and can be guilty of racism, sexism etc.

The most overt racial abuse I've ever personally witnessed was in east Africa, and it was done by east African Asians to blacks.

There's very little condemnation from some sections of the black press when it comes to popular culture that talks about smacking bitches and 'ho's, and shooting batty boys.

Prejudice can be found everywhere, regardless of ethnic group.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

these dabates are good but can forget the main point.
you dont refer to a black person has a golly wog.
someone has experienced as a daughter of a pm who was voted for to represent all people living in the uk should know not to do that.if she said it on this occasion then she's probally said it many times before
' thatcher out ' thats what i say :egged:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

But this is prejudice that is common.. I would give that some leway ..now we have a TV presentor that seems to think.. in whatever envoriment she is in calling a black person a gollywog.. no exuse, not even an apolligy.. and it's all hands on deck for the members here.. disgraceful

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

and that's without me saying Carole Thatcher looks like a mutant pig farmers off spring!

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I don't think anyone here has posted that they'd use the word golliwog to describe a black person.

I also don't think the sin's of the father, or in this case the mother, shouldn't be carried on this woman's shoulders, which applies to us all too.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Many posters have seen it fit to use gollywog to describe black people..so some mistake there.. carole thatcher is a normal person.. i don't care about what she thinks about anyone.. but again and her posh bods think it's ok to talk in the "jolly" descriptions from long ago.. Accy web members take this sort of lingo to be everyday talk.. I don't..and will confront anyone who does!

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Where?

Quote them.

:confused:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

do a qiuck scan..you have the best memory on this forum..I recall AccyBob saying "nigger" was in the dictionary therefore can be classed as a corect way to call black people.. I recall him calling new born kids ..born out of marraige as "bastards" because it is in the dicitonary ..you know the stuff that has been posted on this site.. if you want to think it did not happen.. and maybe happen again it's your business.. but I don't forget..even after 10 pints of lager

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Who the hell's AccyBob when he's at home? Are you sure you've only had ten pints of lager, Mancie?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Acrilyc bob a bloke that was held up as a hero here.. a bloke that summed up Accy ..

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

jeez mancie he aint been on fer months,n as fer hero in your mind only.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38: 10 pints? quiet night then.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

bad memory but I do recall Less.. yerself and others in mourning of Acrilyc Bob not posting his obscene pep talks.. how times fly.. but there still seems the lurking suspicion that a black person can be called a gollywog..so I take that as a yes?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

would love to see these posts.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

whatever..you people are a disgrace to this country and have shown your colours.. always exuses for put down names.. you have not moved on ..and don't wish to ......you live in some sort of world that is well known in small towns.. call a black person a gollywog and see what you get in a modern city.. disregard as you wish but times change have a happy... life in your unreal world.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I will say some members that pertian to be anti racist have either no guts or share a different view from me.. and they let down any small minority of black people that may even view Accy Web.. shame on you more so! but hey .. we all know were we stand

YouTube - Never let me down again (Split Mix) - Depeche Mode

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Mancie , it must awfully tight quarters in that bed of yours. You, Tarik Ali , Peter Hain, Vanessa Redgrave and Glenda Jackson, plus all the other re-gurgitated half-dead international socialists from the 60s ........dude ... just keep taking the meds and have happy dreams ...YouTube - Kumbaya My Lord

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

blinding tune steeljack..nice tune for all the Tories up against the wall... you hand out the blindfolds and we will do the shooting.. and .. give me some luxury.. I can run up and kick the dead heads .. I do hope you ain't gonna be one of them.. but whatever ..you lot rather than me eh!?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Heavy night, was it, Mancie? :rolleyes:

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I see you haven't come up with any quotes to back up that claim?

You'd have thought this very thread would have been the ideal place to do so...though no one has.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Any argument you put forward against racism is negated when you start ranting about shooting those who don't share your political views.

I'd much rather live in a world where there was name calling, wrong as that may be, than a country where people you disagree with are shot, and then have their 'dead heads' kicked about by you.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

People on here don't seem to have said that it's ok to call a black person a golliwog, from what I've read most people have said that they hold the golliwogs (i.e. cuddly toys) from their childhood with affection and not as a derogatory term or even something that was necessarily seen as a representation of a black man.

Now, I know times have changed and no way would I ever call a black person a golliwog, however that doesn't take away the affection that I have for the doll I once had.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

if someone looks like a golliwog then they look like a golliwog, end of, with me having curly hair my sis has often said i look like one....was i offended? was i ****e

some people have curly hair, dark skin and dark features

what is the problem?

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

often people make a mountain out of a mole hill, just for a reaction...mancie you did this a while ago with me just because i said i voted bnp, if you have issues with it then so be it, not everyone is the same as you, grow up

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

When I was called racist names, and then attacked, I happen to think that being attacked was the worst part of it. I'm pretty sure other people might agree with me. It's interesting to see you resorting to violence, after apparently taking the moral high ground over what you perceive as name calling.

Perhaps you should leave Accyweb alone when you're blind drunk.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

From what I understand she only said that his hair looked like a Golliwogs ...not exactly calling him one. There is a slight difference to me.

We know that there is controversy over this word now, so she should really have been careful, however, these dolls are widely on sale now under names such as Jolly Gollies and Gollidolls (go along Blackpool front). If she had said his hair looks like a Golly, would it have made a difference ? It is the last three letters that are deemed offensive.

As other members have said these dolls are bought by mostly white children to love and caress, not to stick pins in them.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Acrylic Bob didn't suffer fools gladly, but I'm sure he would have made an exception in your case.:D

From another recent thread:-

Perhaps it's time you took your own advice?

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Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Yet again the PC brigade think they speak for all of us! Apparently Carol Thatcher has now received death threats...how rational is that? If the BBC were really concerned about this term being offensive then how come its one of their minions who chose to make it public...just so that they could then pretend to take the moral high ground obviously. We ARE talking about a DOLL at the end of the day!! I agree with other posters who have said Golliwog dolls were always held in affection. When we were young if we had frizzy hair we would be told we looked like one whether we were Black or White, it was banter or affectionate humour, nothing more nothing less, and certainly not Racist in any way! No one seems to have taken offence to the Froggy element in her quote, although its still not really clear what Exactly was said. Surely its what is meant by what is being said thats the main issue, not what was or was,nt said. I think its time we started being less sensitive to what people say and more sensitive to what people do! Its the PC brigade who always seem to make Colour an issue...lets face it, its not really about race because most nationalities come in for some stick over time, notably in the media. This all passes by as a bit of fun, however when that race happens to be of a different colour then different criteria is used. Surely we all need to be accepting of backgrounds and our humour base. Its very noticeable that most people who make their living from the media are mainly backing the BBC's view, yet most of the complaints received by the BBC from members of the public, are in support of Carol Thatcher....makes you think does'nt it!

Best Regards - Taggy

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

[QUOTE=steeljack;677131]Mancie , it must awfully tight quarters in that bed of yours. You, Tarik Ali , Peter Hain, Vanessa Redgrave and Glenda Jackson, plus all the other re-gurgitated half-dead international socialists from the 60s ........dude ... just keep taking the meds and have happy dreams ................................ know what yer saying steeljack, personally i think its closer to "Margaret Thatcher" n her attitude to the "Miners"

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

Good old Mancie.
Living proof of the old adage: Violence is the sign language of the illiterate.

Re: Carole Thatchter
 

I can think of a much more accurate description of Prudence Brown, but I'd probably be banned from the website!