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garinda 12-02-2009 10:23

Kind Hearts and Coronets.
 
There is much controversy at the moment about the Home Office's decision to refuse entry to far-right Dutch politican Geert Wilders, on the grounds that his visit would 'threaten community harmony and therefore public security'.

He was invited to the country by Lord Pearson, who planned to screen Wilder's anti-Islamic film 'Fitna' in the House of Lords.

Since this Dutch politican's film has resulted in a fatwa ordering his murder, is it really wise for a member of the House of Lords to want to screen this film in the Houses of Parliament, and put our national security at risk?

If Lord Pearson is so desperate to see this film I'm sure it's available on DVD, and he could watch it in the comfort of his own home, rather than in our second chamber.

Far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders barred from UK over anti-Islam film - Times Online

katex 12-02-2009 10:37

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Geert Wilders is being interviewed on the Jeremy Vine show Garinda after noon.

Seems he can just enter the country if flys into Heathrow ... baggage put on another flight, but he can leave the airport for interview ... or summat like that.

jaysay 12-02-2009 10:40

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We've enough Weirdos of our own that stir the pot without letting them in from other countries, me thinks twas a bit of poor judgement by the Noble Lord

garinda 12-02-2009 10:43

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 678770)
Geert Wilders is being interviewed on the Jeremy Vine show Garinda after noon.

So I heard, moments after posting it.:rolleyes:

I still think it's called the Jeremy Vine show though, not Garinda After Noon.

That show's on Radio 4.

:D

yerself 12-02-2009 10:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay
We've enough Weirdos of our own that stir the pot without letting them in from other countries

I thought our resident 'weirdos' were imports. Abu Hamza and his followers certainly weren't home-grown. If we are to give voice to the likes of Hamza and his cronies why not to this Dutchman? No matter how much you may disagree with him, we are after all the land of free speech and equal opportunity, aren't we?

garinda 12-02-2009 10:59

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Blimey, this issue has even untited Peter Thatchell and the Daily Mail on this issue. That must be a first!

They both accuse Home Secretary Jacqui Smith of hypocrisy when it comes to whom she sees fit to enter Britain.

Although Wilder is very anti-Islam, he's apparently never threatened violence, unlike some people who are granted free entry to our shores.

EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE: Peter Tatchell hits the nail on the head as he accuses Jacqui Smith of 'gross hypocrisy' | Mail Online

jaysay 12-02-2009 16:28

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 678776)
I thought our resident 'weirdos' were imports. Abu Hamza and his followers certainly weren't home-grown. If we are to give voice to the likes of Hamza and his cronies why not to this Dutchman? No matter how much you may disagree with him, we are after all the land of free speech and equal opportunity, aren't we?

I'm one of the people who think Captain Hook should have been sent back to whence he came but, this government won't do it, and whats more we're keeping his brood just to add insult to injury, if this guy doesn't like our way of life why have we allowed him to rip us of for years:(

Taggy 12-02-2009 16:47

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 678776)
I thought our resident 'weirdos' were imports. Abu Hamza and his followers certainly weren't home-grown. If we are to give voice to the likes of Hamza and his cronies why not to this Dutchman? No matter how much you may disagree with him, we are after all the land of free speech and equal opportunity, aren't we?

I'd go along with that i think. If he was critizising Christians or the Bible he'd have been welcomed..no problem!

Best Regards - Taggy

Eric 12-02-2009 17:48

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 678889)
I'm one of the people who think Captain Hook should have been sent back to whence he came but, this government won't do it, and whats more we're keeping his brood just to add insult to injury, if this guy doesn't like our way of life why have we allowed him to rip us of for years:(

I presume we are not talking about the Peter Pan character:confused:

garinda 12-02-2009 17:51

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 678935)
I presume we are not talking about the Peter Pan character:confused:

Sadly not.

http://redstatepatriot.com/ABU_HAMZA_380758a.jpg

Abu Hamza al-Masri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

cashman 12-02-2009 17:52

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Originally Posted by Taggy (Post 678897)
I'd go along with that i think. If he was critizising Christians or the Bible he'd have been welcomed..no problem!

Best Regards - Taggy

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 678776)
I thought our resident 'weirdos' were imports. Abu Hamza and his followers certainly weren't home-grown. If we are to give voice to the likes of Hamza and his cronies why not to this Dutchman? No matter how much you may disagree with him, we are after all the land of free speech and equal opportunity, aren't we?

i'm in the two wrongs don't make a right camp, n happy they turned the guy back.:)

Eric 12-02-2009 18:14

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Kinda looks like the guy in the movie ... but I don't see the Croc:confused:

jaysay 13-02-2009 10:59

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 678951)
Kinda looks like the guy in the movie ... but I don't see the Croc:confused:

Unfortunately Eric:D

bullseyebarb 13-02-2009 15:16

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A further retreat from the English tradition of free speech and open debate.

Neil 13-02-2009 16:12

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 678937)

From the wiki link above

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The Yemeni authorities have requested his arrest and extradition, claiming he is linked to plots to bomb targets there, but the British authorities have not complied claiming he will not get a fair trial. Not that the majority of Britons care about that. We just want this evil person removed from our shores.

Taggy 13-02-2009 17:40

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It all seems a bit stupid now, seeing that the film was still viewed anyway but all of 30 odd people (odd probably in more than one way! Lol!) This was just a statement by the Government to appease certain sections in the community. All they've done now is given him even more publicity, another bullet in the foot for the Government me thinks.


Best Regards - Taggy

garinda 13-02-2009 17:51

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 679444)
A further retreat from the English tradition of free speech and open debate.

I totally agree.

I don't agree with what Mr. Wilders says, but I've yet to read anything he's said that breaks any British laws, as distasteful as his views might be.

Meanwhile we allow, and pay for those whose preaching does break our laws, to remain at liberty, and that's besides the rappers welcomed to our shores who glorify hate killing in their songs.

This government have a very narrow view about who is, and who isn't, allowed freedom of speech.

yerself 05-03-2010 09:37

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He's overturned the ban and is on his way as a guest of Lord Pearson, the leader of UKIP.

The Press Association: Wilders overturns ban on visiting UK

jaysay 05-03-2010 09:58

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 794389)
He's overturned the ban and is on his way as a guest of Lord Pearson, the leader of UKIP.

The Press Association: Wilders overturns ban on visiting UK

No doubt rent a mob will be out in force to greet him:rolleyes:

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2010 16:09

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Didn't the courts (European?) order that the Home Secretary was acting illegally in barring Wilders from entry. That aside, how would any government react if, as is expected, Wilders becomes the new Dutch Prime Minister???

Eric 05-03-2010 18:40

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 794456)
Didn't the courts (European?) order that the Home Secretary was acting illegally in barring Wilders from entry. That aside, how would any government react if, as is expected, Wilders becomes the new Dutch Prime Minister???

Good point ... then he will be not an individual but an expression of the will of the Dutch people ... even if he doesn't win a majority he will still represent a significant proportion of the electorate ....

steeljack 05-03-2010 21:35

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from all the different races and creeds I have met over the years I would say the Dutch are the most similar to the English , one or two irritating traits but on the whole have a similar outlook on life and a not too different sense of humour . That being said , if this Wilders chap does become the elected Dutch PM it should be seen as a 'red flag' to British politicians as to what the British population is also thinking , will they take note , doubtfull .

Mancie 05-03-2010 22:19

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 794537)
from all the different races and creeds I have met over the years I would say the Dutch are the most similar to the English , one or two irritating traits but on the whole have a similar outlook on life and a not too different sense of humour . That being said , if this Wilders chap does become the elected Dutch PM it should be seen as a 'red flag' to British politicians as to what the British population is also thinking , will they take note , doubtfull .

If, as you say, the British population think the same as Herr Wilders, then BNP will gain at least 100 seats at the next election and I don't think that will happen.
Having seen the interview of Wilders on newsnight he was forthright about his anti-muslim proposals but at least he didn't bring race and colour into his argument.

DaveinGermany 05-03-2010 22:34

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It shouldn't be just the British who should sit up & take note, pretty much all of Western Europe should be looking in. As the Dutch Nation are probably the most liberal in Europe & are tending more towards ruffled feathers as things develop further concerning the rise & militancy in some sectors of the Muslim populace, it should surely have a wake up effect on its neighbours.

And since we are supposedly a united Europe, what are the MEP's of the EU doing to alleviate their peoples fears & concerns in respect of the issues being raised ? Or are they to preoccupied with other more pressing concerns ? such as their levels of pay ?

garinda 05-03-2010 23:27

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 794537)
from all the different races and creeds I have met over the years I would say the Dutch are the most similar to the English

I've got lots of Dutch friends, and I see what you're saying, and if forced to pick a similar nation, I'd probably chose them too.

They're way more liberal than us, of course, and at the same time puritanically restrained.

They do like a good knees up, and a laugh....which is fairly uncommon amongst some of our other near neighbours.

:D

Mancie 05-03-2010 23:54

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 794546)
I've got lots of Dutch friends, and I see what you're saying, and if forced to pick a similar nation, I'd probably chose them too.

They're way more liberal than us, of course, and at the same time puritanically restrained.

They do like a good knees up, and a laugh....which is fairly uncommon amongst some of our other near neighbours.

:D

Then do your Dutch friends have the same views as Wilders?... such as banning the Koran?.. I ain't picking but the bloke made it clear the Koran would be banned if he had the power to do it.

steeljack 05-03-2010 23:56

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 794539)
If, as you say, the British population think the same as Herr Wilders, then BNP will gain at least 100 seats at the next election and I don't think that will happen.
Having seen the interview of Wilders on newsnight he was forthright about his anti-muslim proposals but at least he didn't bring race and colour into his argument.

Not sure but I think the Dutch have a proportional voting system which by its nature allows smaller parties a voice , no way under the British first past the post system would the BNP get 100 seats , but under a proportional vote I'm thinking the number of seats they could gain would be an eye opener ........

my favourite word in Dutch ..... kippernercker , just rolls off the tongue :D :D

garinda 06-03-2010 00:07

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 794553)
Then do your Dutch friends have the same views as Wilders?... such as banning the Koran?.. I ain't picking but the bloke made it clear the Koran would be banned if he had the power to do it.

No. My friends are way too liberal to support him.

There is a ground fear of an errosion of the Dutch way of life, wherever that threat comes from, and when the threat threatens to take away the liberties and liberalism, of which they are justly proud.

I've said many times on here that mainstream political parties refusal to tackle head on the vast majority of people's fears of their way of life being changed so quickly, is a very frightening prospect, and especially so when we see the continued support for extremist organisations such as the B.N.P. The bend over backwards, for fear of being labelled racist, by the pandering P.C. sycophants is divisive, and ultimately dangerous.

Let's not forget that just two decades before Hitler came to power Germany was one of the most politically liberal, and socially enlightend countries the world had ever seen.

Things can change in a relative flash.

garinda 06-03-2010 00:13

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Liberalism is east to crush, and overthrow.

Mainly because they're liberal, and allow you the freedom to do it.

When liberals, such as the Dutch, feel threatened, and start to fight back, to hold on to their freedoms, it's time to start worrying.

garinda 06-03-2010 00:52

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Besides it's hilarious, if it wasn't so frighteningly sad, that lily-livered politicans are too afraid to tackle extremists using religion as a weapon, for fear of being labelled as 'racist'.

Islam, like most other major religions, isn't a race, and has followers from all four corners of the Earth, of many differing nationalities, and racial backgrounds.

Namby-pamby idiots.

I had a letter last week from the NHS in Blackburn, regarding new medical record storage.

The letter was also available in Gujarati, Urdu, Manderin, Polish, French, Farsi and Spanish.

I'm all for everyone being able to access esential services, but this divisive, patronising attitude, isn't the way.

How much more do these translations cost?

What about the poor Romanians, do they not get a nice copy in their language, or the Lithuanians?

How many generations do we keep these divisions in society, by encouraging separation?

If people can't speak English they should get lessons.

These people might be able to read the form I got in their language, but you can bet your bottom dollar the vast majorities of receptionists and nurses in the NHS won't speak their language, so it's all a bit pointless until they can speak English.

This is the stupid attitude that comes down right from the upper reaches of government, which infuriates fair minded people, and allows the rise of right-wing extremism to flourish.

Namby-pamby idiots.

Mancie 06-03-2010 01:24

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Not having the the ability to speak English "infuriates fair minded people"..I'd say it infuriates narrow minded people.. I know of Chinese bloke and his wife that have brought up a family here and the only English he knows is chinky curry rice fork and most English words that are banned on here... I also know Brits that have spent 20yyrs in Hong Kong and Singapore that will make no attempt to speak the local language..so by your reckoning they should take lessons ?.. no chance.

Mancie 06-03-2010 02:40

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb (Post 679444)
A further retreat from the English tradition of free speech and open debate.

behave..there has never been a form of free speech that has been uniqiue to England..and I hope there never is because free speech to some means death to others.

garinda 06-03-2010 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 794564)
Not having the the ability to speak English "infuriates fair minded people"..I'd say it infuriates narrow minded people.. I know of Chinese bloke and his wife that have brought up a family here and the only English he knows is chinky curry rice fork and most English words that are banned on here... I also know Brits that have spent 20yyrs in Hong Kong and Singapore that will make no attempt to speak the local language..so by your reckoning they should take lessons ?.. no chance.

That's not what I said.

I said people should get English lessons, rather than patronising, divisive people tripping over themselves to offer translation services for every offical form.

How many generations should be kept isolated from the wider community Mancie, by preventing them speaking English?

yerself 06-03-2010 07:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie
free speech to some means death to others.

You are, of course, referring to the likes of Abu Hamza, Omar Bakri Mohammed and their love and tolerance of christianity and western society.

jaysay 06-03-2010 09:02

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 794591)
You are, of course, referring to the likes of Abu Hamza, Omar Bakri Mohammed and their love and tolerance of christianity and western society.

;)Nice one yerself, took the words out of my mouth :rolleyes:

Eric 06-03-2010 09:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 794563)
Besides it's hilarious, if it wasn't so frighteningly sad, that lily-livered politicans are too afraid to tackle extremists using religion as a weapon, for fear of being labelled as 'racist'.

Islam, like most other major religions, isn't a race, and has followers from all four corners of the Earth, of many differing nationalities, and racial backgrounds.

Namby-pamby idiots.

I had a letter last week from the NHS in Blackburn, regarding new medical record storage.

The letter was also available in Gujarati, Urdu, Manderin, Polish, French, Farsi and Spanish.

I'm all for everyone being able to access esential services, but this divisive, patronising attitude, isn't the way.

How much more do these translations cost?

What about the poor Romanians, do they not get a nice copy in their language, or the Lithuanians?

How many generations do we keep these divisions in society, by encouraging separation?

If people can't speak English they should get lessons.

These people might be able to read the form I got in their language, but you can bet your bottom dollar the vast majorities of receptionists and nurses in the NHS won't speak their language, so it's all a bit pointless until they can speak English.

This is the stupid attitude that comes down right from the upper reaches of government, which infuriates fair minded people, and allows the rise of right-wing extremism to flourish.

Namby-pamby idiots.

Holy crap:eek: ... and some over here bitch because we have two official languages:D

DaveinGermany 06-03-2010 09:30

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 794564)
Not having the the ability to speak English "infuriates fair minded people"..I'd say it infuriates narrow minded people.. I know of Chinese bloke and his wife that have brought up a family here and the only English he knows is chinky curry rice fork and most English words that are banned on here... I also know Brits that have spent 20yyrs in Hong Kong and Singapore that will make no attempt to speak the local language..so by your reckoning they should take lessons ?.. no chance.

If you decide to live elsewhere, learning that Countries Language is a corner stone of integration, without it there is no assimilation & thus "Ghettoes" & "enclaves" of foreign speaking Nationals form. This then encourages resentment & mistrust from the indigenous Peoples.

I know this from my own experiences here in Germany, I chose to settle here after leaving the Forces, I have a German Wife, my Son was educated in the German School system & I worked in Germany for a civilian German Company. Had I insisted on speaking purely English in all my dealings I know I wouldn't have been anywhere near as settled as I am.

I learnt as I went along, initially my spoken German was poor, but because I made an effort, the people accepted my destroying their Language & didn't pass comment, in fact they aided were possible much to my gratitude. I now speak passably good German, can read it & on occasions make a foray into written Language, often with wry smiles from the recipients.

In short I've tried to become accepted & I think succeeded, due to my willingness to accept other peoples way of life, if more of the settlers to UK adopted this approach, the Country would not be seeing the internal turmoil & tensions it presently is. As to those who have no desire to integrate they should be repatriated immediately to a place where their views fit their tirades & let the rest of us live our lives together peaceably.

Benipete 06-03-2010 09:32

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With all this doom and gloom about melting ice caps and rising sea levels I would have thought the Dutch had enough problems looking for higher ground.:confused:

Or at the very least spending what time they have left inventing an amphibious push bike:D:D.

DaveinGermany 06-03-2010 09:39

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 794617)
With all this doom and gloom about melting ice caps and rising sea levels I would have thought the Dutch had enough problems looking for higher ground.:confused:

Or at the very least spending what time they have left inventing an amphibious push bike:D:D.

No need they'll just produce bigger Dykes !! :D :thumbsup:

jaysay 06-03-2010 10:13

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 794618)
No need they'll just produce bigger Dykes !! :D :thumbsup:

Would that be Geta from Amsterdam Dave:D

Benipete 06-03-2010 10:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 794643)
Would that be Geta from Amsterdam Dave:D

Can usually be found down the Canal Re-treat:eek::D:D

DaveinGermany 06-03-2010 10:55

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So you've sampled the delights & sights of Amsterdam then, you World weary travellers !! :thankya: :D :joint: :cheers: :surprise:

Benipete 06-03-2010 12:32

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 794657)
So you've sampled the delights & sights of Amsterdam then, you World weary travellers !! :thankya: :D :joint: :cheers: :surprise:

Only window shopping.;):D

jaysay 06-03-2010 13:38

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 794654)
Can usually be found down the Canal Re-treat:eek::D:D

Know it well Beni, came across it in research:rolleyes::D

jaysay 06-03-2010 13:40

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 794670)
Only window shopping.;):D

Did the curtains shut when you went in for souvenirs:D

Mancie 06-03-2010 16:33

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Originally Posted by yerself (Post 794591)
You are, of course, referring to the likes of Abu Hamza, Omar Bakri Mohammed and their love and tolerance of christianity and western society.

yes you got it...should anyone have the freedom to call for out right murder?.. of course not.. therefore there is no absolute free speech and never should be.

Hiddlebit 06-03-2010 19:56

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Banning the Koran is an interesting concept when you think about it. Most of the Koran appears as the Old Testament in our Bible, with a few relatively minor changes. Muslims even worship the same God as Jews and Christians.

Sad, isn't it?

garinda 06-03-2010 19:59

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Originally Posted by Hiddlebit (Post 794812)
Banning the Koran is an interesting concept when you think about it. Most of the Koran appears as the Old Testament in our Bible, with a few relatively minor changes. Muslims even worship the same God as Jews and Christians.

Sad, isn't it?


Perhaps there'll come a time when mankind will be stong enough to walk without the crutch that is religion.

steeljack 06-03-2010 20:20

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Originally Posted by Hiddlebit (Post 794812)
Banning the Koran is an interesting concept when you think about it. Most of the Koran appears as the Old Testament in our Bible, with a few relatively minor changes. Muslims even worship the same God as Jews and Christians.

Sad, isn't it?

I don't actually think anyone is calling for a ban on the Koran , just its literal interpretation by the Mad Mullahs who want to implement its 'rules' into western society .
Wether its the crazy Christian Evilgelicals like the clowns here in the US who are calling for the Orca which 'killed' its trainer in Florida recently to be stoned to death in line with Biblical rules, or fanatical Muslims who believe apostasy should be punished by death , in my mind there is nothing to choose between them (two sides of the same coin) and all should be shipped off to their own little island as far away as possible from normal folk .

jaysay 07-03-2010 09:19

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 794816)
I don't actually think anyone is calling for a ban on the Koran , just its literal interpretation by the Mad Mullahs who want to implement its 'rules' into western society .
Wether its the crazy Christian Evilgelicals like the clowns here in the US who are calling for the Orca which 'killed' its trainer in Florida recently to be stoned to death in line with Biblical rules, or fanatical Muslims who believe apostasy should be punished by death , in my mind there is nothing to choose between them (two sides of the same coin) and all should be shipped off to their own little island as far away as possible from normal folk .

I agree SJ its not the Koran its the interpretation by some people to fuel their own hatreds, always amazes me that these hate mongers abhor our way of life, yet are quite happy siting on the fa religious backsides and let the tax payer pay for their upkeep and the raising of their many kids:(

DaveinGermany 15-05-2010 08:35

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Just brought this to mind after reading something in the papers this morning, I knew it'd been mentioned before about languages.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Council pays for 300 workers to translate into 105 languages

Now is a perfect time to show what the new Government has got by getting a grip of situations like this, the savings here would be immense.

Less 15-05-2010 08:54

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Well that link had me confused, Daily Express? I thought we were only allowed to link to the Daily Mail for this type of thing?
:confused:

DaveinGermany 15-05-2010 11:04

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 814945)
Well that link had me confused, Daily Express? I thought we were only allowed to link to the Daily Mail for this type of thing?
:confused:

Not always, a little bit of variety does you the World of good ! :)

steeljack 15-05-2010 17:15

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 814936)
Just brought this to mind after reading something in the papers this morning, I knew it'd been mentioned before about languages.

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Council pays for 300 workers to translate into 105 languages

Now is a perfect time to show what the new Government has got by getting a grip of situations like this, the savings here would be immense.

be interesting to see the contents of the fridge, and state of the microwave in the employees eating area :eek: :eek:

setayas 16-05-2010 07:36

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Can anybody guess how many languages official forms are available in here in France???


That's right, one, French.
Doesn't that seem more sensible than spending a fortune translating everything?

jaysay 16-05-2010 09:22

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 814981)
Not always, a little bit of variety does you the World of good ! :)

Don't let it worry you Dave the express is far to up market for Less:D

jaysay 16-05-2010 09:28

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Originally Posted by setayas (Post 815077)
Can anybody guess how many languages official forms are available in here in France???


That's right, one, French.
Doesn't that seem more sensible than spending a fortune translating everything?

Looks like its a case of when in France, mind you its the case in every other country except GB I'm sure that if you move to say France, Spain or Portugal if you want anything you have to learn their language or pay for an interpreter full stop

Benipete 16-05-2010 09:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 815098)
Looks like its a case of when in France, mind you its the case in every other country except GB I'm sure that if you move to say France, Spain or Portugal if you want anything you have to learn their language or pay for an interpreter full stop

Que.:):D

DaveinGermany 10-03-2013 12:03

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Hasn't this been said before by many people even if only to induce intergration & acceptance ?

Eric Pickles orders ban on council translations for migrants - Telegraph

Margaret Pilkington 10-03-2013 13:23

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yes, it has been said, and by many people.
Don't say someone is finally taking notice.

jaysay 10-03-2013 17:37

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1045969)
Hasn't this been said before by many people even if only to induce intergration & acceptance ?

Eric Pickles orders ban on council translations for migrants - Telegraph

If anybody needs a translations should get their own, like they have to in most other countries, this country has been the soft touch for far too long :mad:

Less 10-03-2013 18:20

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1046015)
If anybody needs a translations should get their own, like they have to in most other countries, this country has been the soft touch for far too long :mad:

There seems to be a free translation service on here,

C'mon posts and someone else comes on and tries to make sense of it.
;)

jaysay 10-03-2013 18:50

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1046027)
There seems to be a free translation service on here,

C'mon posts and someone else comes on and tries to make sense of it.
;)

Ya Less but they're not very good, they haven't managed it yet:confused::D

Less 10-03-2013 19:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1046029)
Ya Less but they're not very good, they haven't managed it yet:confused::D

Well his stuff isn't as easy to follow and therefore translate as yours is.

Quote:

Firteen yers ob laser mis-manglement
:D

jaysay 11-03-2013 08:33

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1046034)
Well his stuff isn't as easy to follow and therefore translate as yours is.



:D

Ya but you have to admit I once started like that but I'm more sophisticated now, in other words my spellcheck is more refined these days


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