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maybe they will refund us teh cost of fighting their illigal war in iraq as well.That would get us out of a lot of debt its what helped put us in it so bad in the first place.

infact i would appreciate it if teh usa would refund me my fuel expenses because their stupid war doubled the price of fuel over night

mind you they cant afford 50p for teh meter to electrecute a terrorist these days so theres no hope really :(

unless they sell teh rest of america to the chineese lol

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I bet that has been mused more than once Ian, that or a metal object travelling, around a mile in 10 seconds, right between the eyes would suffice just as well.:rolleyes:

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So why was this piece of crap not put straight on a plane in 2009,when a british court ruled it was ok.?:mad:

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Was reading an article on the case in one of your papers ... Guardian, I think ... and came across this gem: "The judges said the fact that he was considered a dangerous terrorist was irrelevant to their decision.":confused::confused::confused:

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Thats a bit slow John, it only takes a 7.62 mm 150 grain bullet 2.6 secs to travel 1000 yards. What we need is Charles Bronson as the Mechanic.

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That by the way was when Labour was in Power, Yeh know who i mean? Those knobs that are now slagging Teresa off fer cocking up.:rolleyes: The fact that all of em are useless gets, goes well beyond some people.:rolleyes:

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It wasn't the fault of the Americans that you guys were fighting in Iraq. You volunteered. Other countries, friends and allies of the US, realized that this was a bs war and didn't join in. I'm fortunate enough to live in one of those countries.

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fair point but america controls the oil and we get sod all so in effect high prices are americas fault so surely im still due a refund :D

america said jump to war and blair asked how high.

our country believed it was above board because both america and our own prime minister lied through their teeth

i suppose in hind sight when teh rest of teh world is telling america to bog off we should have been asking what our leader wasnt telling us

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if tony blair started deporting war criminals how would his wife have made a living;)

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Fair Point.;)

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They live in their own little dream world Eric, its time the law books, most of which were with regards to centuries ago, were scraped and rewritten to suit modern day living. If this screw up of a judge thinks that he should order that he's detained in a maximum security jail, until he wants to leave this country and finds somebody who will take him besides Jordon

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That's why Blair said signing up to the European Human Rights Act was the finest thing he's done in politics, well it will keep him in the champagne life style he's come used to.:rolleyes:

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Hey up, can hardly blame our prime minister of the time for not seeing the long term view and it's consequences.

You can't see much with your head stuck up a U.S. Presidents arse!

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so.....that's why he always looked a bit tanned.:)

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And his decisions stank !

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The only difference between a brown noser and a shlthead is depth perception:D

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a journalist asks milliband how far things had to open to give graham jones his tan :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-K1mlXohAeA...98_634x617.jpg

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He's even got the pucker too! :rolleyes:

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I wish he'd spit it out:rolleyes:

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All credit to the government for their relentless pursuit of any avenue that can get this joker out of the UK. He's not British, and has no right to be. To my mind you lose your rights as a citizen when you act against citizens (it wasnt a christmas present he was wrapping when the idiot blew his own hand off - hence the hook for a hand).

So the court route failed, next step change the law by signing a mutual extradition treaty. If that fails, temporarily suspend the human rights act while you jet him to the fate he deserves.

While I know most here are labour supporters, I think we can at least agree that on this issue the govt is absolutely correct to get him removed no matter what.

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Are you sure you've got the right bloke here? ;)

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Hookies (Abu Hamza) is in America now ain't he, better in America where he WILL get just what he deserves, maybe America can take his mate Qatada as well:rolleyes:

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G. Do you honestly think that because we do not vote poxy Tory , then we are Labour supporters. You are like the Government that you support. Blind to anything else. Now back to ABU.
We cant get rid of Abu Qatada. I cant get my breath. ISLAM. What is happening in Britain now is similar to what their raping, murdering, child molesting, lying, selfish, fascist ‘prophet’ did at the beginning of this disgusting religion of hate. To gain followers, Muhammad wrote Surahs preaching the tolerance and acceptance of other people and religions.

When he acquired riches and power (through violence and lies) he then changed his tune. No longer was it the case of infidels or kafirs being tolerated, it was now an ultimatum of three options. (These are the three options Islam gives you).

1. Convert to Islam.
2. Submit as an inferior citizen (dhimmi) and pay the non-Muslim tax, the Jizya.
3. Be killed.

The EU is forcing everyone within its dictatorship to accept Islam.

Anyone who has actually researched Islam and the Quran will know that the goal of Islam is to bring the world into the house of Allah. That includes Britain, and, while living in taxpayer funded accomodation and spending your taxes on themselves, they scheme and plot against this nation.
In all of this I have not used a swear word once. One way or another, We must get rid of all these people before its too late. Trifle thee not as thy time is short.

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This is part of the popes acceptance speech. I don't see much of a differance to be honest.

"I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex nor condition, and that will hang, burn, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants’ heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race."

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A very good informative post Mog

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Didn't know you spoke latin so fluently Alan:D

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Alan,

You are indeed correct, the pope had exactly that mantra 1000 years prior. Doesn't suit him today but so far as I can tell the Christians didn't have the convert option, it was just kill the infidel because "god wills it".

I see the world from a different perspective Mog. I grew up in Newcastle where there are pretty much no other races than white English. I lived in Bermuda where whites are a minority, and here in Asia where religion is either non-existent (china) or multi-faith as here in Singapore.

Here we have no issues with faith. The Chinese make up 60% of the population and the believe all sorts of strange stuff (hungry ghost day - burning money to pass it to your dead relatives) alters for offerings (always involving burning stuff) but no religion we'd recognise.

There are Muslims, but no radical ones. Anyone like qatada here would be immediately removed from society (execution or prison). He would not have rights here, which was my point about human rights don't apply when you commit crimes against society such as murder.

All the Muslims I know here are nice folk who keep themselves to themselves. They can't stand the radical bunch either as it gives the peaceful majority a bad name. I do think they have issues with interpretation of their holy book, but no different to the Christian book. I distinctly recall George Bush on TV said re Iraq "god told me to do it" which is terrifying as the president actually has power.

If it were up to me I'd ban religion outright, all of them. It is after all the greatest cause of war and death on the planet. Chinese do just fine without it.

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Ah same beard, different bloke.

We can leave it to the Jordanians to provide him with a hook.

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I do just fine without it, however I would not be so silly as to consider banning it, it's a mind thing, how do you prove someone is worshipping his tooth brush?
Do you consider all that have these mouth cleansing items are part of some bristly cult?
Do you torture them and threaten to remove their teeth so that they are no longer part of the perfect image.
Personally I have no problem with any form of religion so long as it causes no harm or infringes on anyone else's beliefs.
:D
Hung by my own petard! A big toothy grin smiley, I must worship my tooth brush.

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True. There ain't much difference in the rhetoric; but the actions stemming from the rhetoric ... well, that's a whole different ball game. Ok, I agree that there is no shortage of xian nutbars (fortunately, most of them live in the good ol' U. S. of A, where they quite happily hang out in trailer parks, listen to country music, and bang their relatives). Also, there are Jewish extremists ... the bobble heads at the wailing wall come to mind. But apart from offing the odd doctor who provides women with a safe, legal medical procedure and blowing up the occasional Federal building, Christians tend not to cause all that much shlt world-wide. They aren't too much into blowing up trains, buses, and skyscrapers in other people's countries. And you don't see too many Jews hi-jacking planes or putting on explosive underwear before they go to the supermarket. If the muslims didn't believe that the middle east would be a better place if only they were allowed to destroy the State of Israel (and every man, woman, and child in it), there wouldn't be as many problems in that region.

But one can look at the lighter side of the whole deal:

Via terror plot suspect says Criminal Code 'not a holy book' - Canada - CBC News

:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

And this moron is going to conduct his own defence:eek:

And then there is this bimbo, who believes it's ok to confront those she accuses of sexual assault, while wearing a bag over her head:confused:

Toronto court rules woman must remove niqab to testify - Toronto - CBC News

Admittedly, the guys are possibly guilty. But c'mon, this is a court of law, not a halloween party.:rolleyes:

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Well if you ever lose your job as Minister For Tourism over there Eric get back here, according to this weeks reports it's safe to come out from under the bed (Margaret n.b.) ;)

Fall in violent crime: Britain - land of law and order - Crime - UK - The Independent

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Crime rates are falling over here too ... meanwhile, south of the border, and south of the border to the south of that, crime rates are going ballistic. But to listen to some folks on here, you would think that the good old land of Uk, with its lack of capital punishment and its luxury jails is a haven for criminals. I don't think I would make a good Minister of Tourism ... I'd feel more comfortable being Minister of Immigration, designing big signs saying "Eff off, We Are Full":alright: (in both official languages, of course;))

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a good plan would be to prevent these idiots like hamzad ever stepping foot into this country.Our immigration is so slack even suspected terrorists can come here

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That sounds like the best idea

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put a huge zip line from teh top of blackpool tower to jordan and stick his hook onto the wire and let gravity do its work..
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ok ok i know it would require a much higher set off point it was merely for humour effect:)

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The man with the hook went over to the good ol' US of A...I'm sure they are giving him the very best of their hospitality....and I'm just as sure that we taxpayers are supporting his brood.

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Ya and its some brood, think its about 7 kids and could be a couple of wives:eek:

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yes daddy will have to skype to show them how to build a bomb now ...

the USA should send teh rest of him to where his hands have gone

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Sorry folks I was wrong, he only has one wife but has been married twice, but just to make up for it he has 8 kids one with his first wife, and seven with his present wife and we're keeping them:eek::eek::mad:

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so thats 15 kids who have been brought up to hate us and thats just from 1 man

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Pay attention accyman 8 kids 1 with his first wife 7 with his second plus probably a lot more we don't know about:rolleyes:

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Allow him Chinese whispers, he just didn't wait until your post was buried by three other pages before he exaggerated!

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Ya Less, but if I've told accyman once I've told him a million times, not to exaggerate ;)

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Do we blame you or your script writer for such repetition?

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what repetition would that be Less

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The eight-year legal fight to deport radical cleric Abu Qatada from the UK has cost taxpayers more than £1.7m so far, the home secretary has said.

In a letter to MPs, Theresa May said the total was £1,716,306, including £647,658 on legal aid for Abu Qatada.

The Home Office had spent £938,630 fighting the case in UK courts and another £130,018 at the European Court of Human Rights, she said. And the barsteward is still here, thats value for money.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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When they finally kick this piece of crap out, There will be a big Hoo-Ha in the media, we will be swamped wi it, n all the knob heads out yon, will rejoice n forget what its cost us.;):rolleyes:

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Who brought in the Human Rights Act?

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It dont really matter a jot, None of em intend to repeal it, plus none of em opposed it.:rolleyes:

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...and yet again, total silence from Accywebbers who are members of mainstream political parties.

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Well mate did yeh expect owt else?:rolleyes:

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Its time we outlawed the human rights act for help with legal aide, if these people want to seek to outstay there welcome, them let them pay for it themselves, seeing they hate this country and our lifestyle so much, it seems they hate everything about this country except for the money they get every time they hold out the begging bowl:mad:

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That's only until they rule us

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You've got a point Frank, I can remember back in the sixties my Uncle, who lived in London, saying you don't know nothing up north, I'm telling you now that one day the blacks and browns will rule this country, I didn't realise back then how right he would be.:(

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Steady on Ladies, you'll be charged with being xenophobic, bigoted, Nazi, fascist, racist little Englanders if you carry on! (There, I think I've covered most epithets applied to those who dare to speak their mind)

For me personally, carry on lads, I'll not call youse, you're only giving vent to what many think but are to scared to state for fear of being labelled. (See above list)

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well there is a point because labour allowed aspects of sharia law to be implimented into the british justice system

fair also to say the torys havnt sorted this disgusting act out either

english courts,english justice if you want stoning to death go to pakistan or afghanistan they will be more than happy to oblige

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Perhaps we could have shariah law just for the people who are demanding it, everyone else covered by British law. Wouldn't be long before they'd be doing a reverse turn.

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There's a simple answer, no body minds people coming to this country, what we do object to is when they are here they want us to change to there way of life, My advice to these people is simple we aren't going to change for you or nobody else and if you don't like it the are places scattered around the country which could assist you, they're call airports where you can board a plane a sod of to where you came from and where you'll obviously be more happy.:rolleyes:

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would that be board a cunning plan?:D

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:idunno:Sorry:idunno:;)

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See i'm all heart, gave yeh time to edit.;):D

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under sharia law a married woman that is raped can be stoned to death for adultry

obviously the male side of islamics that want sharia law in the UK i think

every now and then this obomination of law raises its head when our government has to beg pakistan or another muslim country not to execute a woman for some trivial matter or other

any straight thinking muslim would want sharia law as far away from here as possible its just the nutters and control freaks that want it

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problem is theres many born here and raised to carry on their backward opinion of women.Not all i might add but enough to be a problem

i didnt use teh word you did in your quote as although i use it myself i dont want the site getting in trouble because apparantly its a racist word now.Scott for scottish will be next;)

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Yer right accyman, i was reported a few years ago fer using it, By the little git that cleared off down the smoke n i used it in the chat room not the main forum.:(

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Unless the woman can provide 4 (I think) male witnesses of 'upstanding' character in the case of rape !

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Airports aren't the thing, needed,
I was talking to a guy that lived in the IOM, he stated that the cheapest way to solve the problem was to put them all on a boat home.

I replied, that's too simplistic there are too many for one boat these days.

Not if you burn the bastards first, he replied.

I wonder which of Dave the Donkeys categories I fit in for this post?

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Any & all, I'm sure there'll be someone along presently to confirm precisely what they think & to have a bleat about what a nasty little individual you are. (Again!) :eek:

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basically screwed then

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Ya somehow I don't think Sex discrimination works very well with sharia law does it, so I wonder just what the boys in blue would do if there was any case to prosecute here or better still would the CPS even let any such case go forward, after all the law is petrified at being labeled racist aren't they;)

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Exactly, seems well thought out and weighted heavily against women, they just can't win whatever they do. I thought men and women are supposed to be as 'equal as the teeth on a comb' in Islam? Seems some are more equal than others.

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They aint equal in our lot either, anyone who says women aint got the upper hand,is a sodding liar.:D

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If you ever see ****'s down accy the women are always one step behind their man, :rolleyes:

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Ya but they've always had a great bargaining tool cashy:rolleyes::D

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Looks like he could be on his way, fingers crossed.

From the BBC: BBC News - Abu Qatada due to be deported to stand trial in Jordan

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I bet there's a special welcoming committee and cell waiting for him. I dare say the human rights agreement that has enabled his extradition will be utilised by the Jordanian torturers , I mean judicial system. Used to crank up the fire to start the generator. Smokin.....

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I won't shout 'Hooray' until he is out of British airspace.
Now shouldn't we be thinking of sending...er, I mean allowing his family to join him in Jordan..sans benefits of course?

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how ironic that he was deported on 7/7

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I will shout Hooray fer yeh,;)

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I would say, the fact its taken 12 yrs n cost untold millions to get rid of this piece of crap, should be taken into account by those in power, to prevent this situation recurring,in the future.!!! Somehow i doubt if that will ever happen, Simple fact is those who represent the public "DON'T":rolleyes:

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Me too, Hooray and Goodbye
:banlama::banlama::banlama::Banane31::banlama:

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...which is why there's the usual total silence from Accyweb members of the Labour and Tory parties. :rolleyes:

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:bye2::bye2::bye2::bye2::bye2::bye2:Missing you already

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Has he gone yet?
I have only just got up(well, it IS Sunday) and haven't seen the news yet.

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Hooray, hooray, hooray...he's gone....and landed in Jordan.
Now let's parcel up his family and get them there, to be close to their loved one.

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Yep just check back a few posts.:)

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I've just checked the news Cashy.
I don't normally sleep so late, but I have been so busy and was dog tired last night.
Got to go and et some washing put on now......pay for the lie in:)

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Ya Margaret he might have gone but his wives and kids are still feeding from the golden fountain provided by the British Tax Payer, in other words we're still saddled with the parasite bottom feeders:mad::mad::mad:

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now now im sure his children have been raised to love the United Kingdom and resepct the ways of the country that is their home and has been so generous to them

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According to SKY news, Abu Qatada said that if Jordan ratified the treaty that he would not be convicted on evidence gained from torture, he and his family would leave the Uk and return to Jordan.
The story also stated that officials in Jordan had allowed Qatada time with his family before he was whisked off to jail.
Just hope they left their benefit books here.

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Hardly likely Margaret, they been here fer years n are True Brits.:rolleyes:

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Cashy, only telling you what Sky news said. I have no other evidence to offer.

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And according to the BBC: "The cleric - who did not get to see his family - was remanded in custody and taken to eastern Jordan's Muwaqqar prison, a judicial official said. "

From the same BBC report: "Asked on Sky News whether Abu Qatada's wife and children would have the right to stay in the UK, Mrs May said they would have to decide what they want their future to be before the government gets involved."
BBC News - Abu Qatada deported from UK to stand trial in Jordan

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I was going to post a link to the story, but the text has changed since I read it just after 10am this morning.
I definitely read that bit where it said he was allowed to have time with his family before being taken to jail.

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I also read that this morning.:)

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I've just seen this on Yahoo
Yahoo! News UK & Ireland - Latest World News & UK News Headlines

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/iL...sky_174244.gif
It is understood Jordanian authorities allowed Qatada's family to greet him on his arrival in Amman.

I think the BBC refers to his family here and Sky are referrring to his family in Jordan.

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Ah...that makes sense.
Apart from the fact that Qatada is actually reportes as having said, that if the treaty were ratified(which it has been) he would take his family to live in Jordan.

Is that the bit of the human Rights act that he has been relying on....a right to a family life?

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Like a lot of folks I've been watching the coverage of what's happening in Egypt ... all the footage of Morsi (or is it Mursi ... or who gives a flying you know what) supporters shows crowds of men ... the sisters don't seem to have much of a presence in the Brotherhood. But I do see positives in what is happening in Egypt, Turkey, and Iran. I think, though, that Afghanistan is a write off. As is much of Pakistan.

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He certainly walked the tarmac alone when he was going to his departure, I had a tear in my eye watching him leave:rolleyes:

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They maybe failures Eric because most of um are over here anyway;)

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A government source said "Abu Qatada will not be allowed back into Britain." WANNA BET?

The mere fact that they felt it necessary to say that casts doubt in my mind!