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just recieved a rather unsavoury e-mail re: a job vacancy advertised through another agency with regards my c.v. basically telling me he hadn't bothered to read it properly (info supposedly missing)
so i replied pointing out that the info was there if he bothered to read it (nicely but to the point)
to which I got another email telling me I had a bad attitude and to ****** off basically.

where do these idiots get off i've now ben penalised cos he cant be bothered to do his job properly :cursing:

(probably shouldnt mention the job was for a recruitment agency :D)

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Matt, agencies are crap, i'd never ever get a job through one, you should know better at your age :D

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needs must shaz

think i'm working on the law of averages now though

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Sorry pal but dont follow that...put the whole sinario up and maybe advice will be forthcoming?

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ok here goes.
applied for a job this aft for a recruitment consultant
applied through an agency which has already accepted my c.v.
my details were sent from one agency to another
the second agency sent me an e-mail saying certain information was not included in my c.v. and unless i sent a new c.v. direct to them including the said none existant info my application would be binned.
I replied saying the relevant info was included under the relevant section
in the center of page 1 and the consultant should re-read the c.v.
to which he replied that I had a bad attitude which he would not tolerate
goodbye, game over, sod off

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Have you made an approach to the local bus companies....If. you have a PSV or whatever they call it nowadays that will save them money on training?

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HA....i suggested that last week Roy, you try convincing him cos i couldnt

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My fella as a psv licence and cant find any jobs either, tough world out there:(

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and as i said to you shaz
i have tried the bus companies and i keep getting the same response

because i was a coach tour driver they will not touch me- their philosophy is once a coach driver always a coach driver as soon as i get the chance to go back on tour its bye bye saturday night drunks throwing their half eaten kebabs round the bus and hello nice old grannies who give me money and are nice to me


hmmmm think they may have a point :p

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I came back from Spain in 1987 after a failed excursion and had not got a pot to P..s in, no stars you notice.
I applied to Blackburn Transport for a job and was taken on and within twelve months I was an Inspector.
I had to forget about previous experiences and the glamour of being a driver courier.
A job is a job.....Drive busses and progress from there.

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you obviously dont understand this aint 1987
and its the bus companies that wont take coach drivers not the other way round
i've been to them all

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Why not, a coach is the same as a bus!:confused:, maybe thats why me fella cant find a bus job!!:eek:

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Have you tried the local small companies?

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because the bus companies know that if they employ coach drivers they are going to leave the job in the summer when the coach tours start, therefore losing drivers all the time

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Well what a load of bull, coach drivers dont earn as much as bus drivers so why would they leave?:confused:

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A coach is not the same as a Bus.
A single deck licence is granted to people who pass the test for that category of vehicle.
A double deck licence is a different animal that is a full licence.

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because there are a lot of perks to being a coach driver, tips and lots of money making things you can do to up your income

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yeh i know, but you might not always get tips, ya might get a right bunch of miserable sods:rolleyes:

its not a reliable source of income is it?

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Flashy.....Been there done it....and you are wrong. :)

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from what Jedi tells me, its a definate perk

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Keeps you in goodies in season but out of season....not worth a carrot.
The season is now limited to four months...not much profit in that.?

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mising the point here,hes trying to explain the reason why most people think employment agencies are scum.they are jumped up ******* who shold be outlawed ,why have employment laws when these scum take the pee...

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..... or Canada? or Australia?

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OK go for it.....what is your take on agencies?

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There are licences known by drivers as 'mickey mouse' licences which enables them to drive automatics only, and these limit job opportunities

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Cant argue with that Margaret I think a Leyland PD 1 with crash gearbox would be beyond the the ken of most.

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they are part of whats wrong with todays society.this country and its population needs stability.there is no stability when an employer uses agencies .it is just a cop out of responsability and the employment laws.otherwords they are just part of the boom bust after a quick buck society that has no social responsbility and belongs in a bygone age..they are part of the suckers who have drained the economy of cash.the middle man who is not needed .part of the humilation of the british worker who voted for employment laws and these leeches dont care.i dont see any advantage they give the british nation.as a nation if we as a nation are going to survive,this is a part of the britain that needs to go.a happy workforce and populaion is a more productive workforce and population..i cold go on but they are scum of the earth .

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My experience of job agencies is that the vaste majority of the consultants who work there are penpushers who will try and get you to take any job they have on their books irrespctive of whether you can do that job. I temped via agencies for over 12 years and only met 2 consultants in that time who were up to their job.

Hope you get a job soon Jedi. I know how soul destroying it is to rejected.

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hate to burst your bubble here but things are obviously different from 1987
one license covers all the only differences are a minibus is a seperate license to a full psv and there is either an auto or manual license

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wrong again season runs all year main season runs march to september
pre xmas september-november
xmas december to january
ski season november -march

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hmmm you try talking the wife into that one :D

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And the top two countries in the world where people would like to live and work and do business are .... wait for it .... :theband: Canada and Australia .... it's not all crocodiles, kodiak grizzlies, poisonous snakes, skunk, wild fires and blizzards you know.;):D ... rumour has it that Australia and Canada are quite civilized.

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Perhaps there was no missing information.

Perhaps it was a test of your customer service skills, to see how you'd handle an awkward client.

:D

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Could be a good move career wise if you fit the criteria and get enough points. As for convincing your wife will leave that up to you:)

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gee thanks

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Get her convinced for goodness sake, what has this country got to offer you?

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I would took this issue furthur and requested to speak with his manager.

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When I first took a PSV it was on a coach with Robbisons. That allowed me to drive single deck vehicles only.
I took my Double Deck licence at Ribble in Blackburn. That covered both double and single deck.

There was no distinction between gearboxes, crash,manual,preselect or Auto.
You were required to drive them all.

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The way to treat the agency is as you would the potential employer. At the end of the day, if you were to start work under the banner of the agency, they need to feel comfortable in you doing so, as you are representing them.

I would never tell a new or potential boss that he hadnt done his job right. And to be honest, if you feel that employment agencies arent a good idea, applying for a job with one of them is probably not a good idea

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I'm afraid this post baffles me. If somebody is supplying a company with a service, which is what recruitment agencies do, then why are they at fault ? Surely the fault lies with the employers who can't be bothered or think their time is better spent using the recruitment agencies ?

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Jedimaster,maybe you should have told them you did'nt have a CV,were of east european origin with a string of convictions but you would be willing to work 70 hours a week for less than the minimum wage.Might have got you the job;)

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My fella drove in a double decker when he passed his test with stagecoach, he has even driven for robinsons, so ill ask him and see whos right;)
but roy you could be if my memory serves me right:p

oh and its a pcv licence now! :D

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Well i have just spoken to him and he says that he passed in a doubledecker, BUT it doesnt matter if you pass in a single decker you can still drive ANY.
The only difference is that if you pass in a manual you can drive any bus, but if you learn in a automatic you can only drive in a automatic!

He has a :-
D
D1
D+E licence so he can drive any, but if you only have a D licence then you can only drive a minibus;)

hope this is clear :D


So Jedimaster is right...sorry royboy:(

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maybe your cv wasnt set out correctly, a lot of cv's fail on the way there setout and dont even get look at, use microsoft office and look at the resume templates on there. on the expeience side of things try saying u drove buses for a now defunkt bus company as they then cant check

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I did say when I passed my test...That was in 1961. My original Badge No was CC 72425. which was covered by a full PSV Licence after two tests, one for a single deck and one for a double deck.

Times do change, we only one or two mickey mouse buses then.

In 1987 I retook my Double deck PSV as my orignal had lapsed, I got a badge with a different No. I understand drivers don't get badges these days?. :)

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we're not given them when we pass our test but we can get them
believe we got to pay for them now

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"pcv" ... positive crankcase ventillation .... you have to be a mechanic too:eek: ....

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Sorry Jedi...............they were abolished in 1991.

http://www.psvbadges.co.uk/

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when i passed my test in 2004 I was offered the chance to get one but i had to pay extra and send off for it

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the problem is if we want to change or set this country on a path of improvement one of the first thing is i would send these agencies back to the cesspit where they arrived from.if anybody thinks it is good to lay people off their work with 2 hours notice are off their rocker,anybody thinks it is good to try and avoid the emplyment laws in this country are deceitful,this country needs stability,the working population does not need these agencies dictating if they can pay their bills it just adds to uncertainty.the only people who like these agencies are the greedy shareholder british or foreign.this is a time for change,this is a time for the silent majority to rise..get involved in politics dont let the two faced freeloaders get away with it....

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seems to be every other vacancy in the jobcenter database reads: this vacancy is advertised on behalf of .............. who are acting as a recruitment agency


CAN NO-ONE BE BOTHERED TO HIRE THEIR OWN STAFF?

surely in an economic climate as turbulent as ours it would be much more cost effective than hiring these idiots at inflated rates.
it's also a wonder that companies manage to fill any vacancies as potential employees can't even get past the jumped up agency receptionist
NO VACANCIES AT ALL. surely they need to have vacancies to generate income????

or am i completely on the wrong track here are these agencies some kind of visual ornamentation for our highstreets.
some form of government funded urban regeneration scheme - there to look pretty perhaps???

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Never tell lies on a CV. Many companies now have clauses in you contract of employment about what you said in your interview and the contents on the CV and application form. You could find yourself sacked if they later find out you lied.

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Maybe the employment laws are costing the companies too much money so they have to try and get around them or close down.

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Every 'good' agency is meant to go through cv's, re-write if necessary, interview the candidate at least once and check references before the candidates cv is even passed to an employer to look at.

For an employer to do this for the hundreds of cvs that get sent in for each position they advertise would take too many man hours, hence why they pay for an agency to do it, and then get a shortlist of a few of the best cv's.

The employer only pays the agency if he recruits one of his candidates, so for example, an employer can pass a brief to 3 agencies, who can each then eventually pass the best 3cv's back out of the 000's on their books (all who have been referenced, interviewed etc), and the employer can choose 3 out of the 9 for interviews. Once appointed, one agency will get the fee, the others will get nothing for the work.

This is generally less costly than having someone senior in a company doing the same work. Also most agencies have a guarentee that if the candidate leaves within 3 months say, they will be replaced for free or the fee will be refunded.

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That is what a recruitment agency does.
Employment agencies supply labour to companies, often short term but sometimes long term.

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I know, I was replying to the posts asking why companies use recruitment/employment agencies instead of doing it all themselves

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Sorry I will shut up then :rolleyes::D

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lmao, sorry did i sound tetchy?? didnt mean to

Not good in the mornings lol