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cherokee 24-02-2009 21:36

Tesco blasted over drink which turns children 'drunk'
 
Found this in our local paper and after a discussion with someone else I agree . why should this just be aimed at Tesco? Other stores are selling these drinks too.
Tesco blasted over drink which turns children 'drunk' - Blackpool Today

emamum 24-02-2009 21:38

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is it not common sense that and ENERGY drink may give kids ENERGY and make them hyper?

flashy 24-02-2009 21:38

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those drinks are something i have NEVER EVER let Reece drink anyway, he doesnt need anymore energy than he already has, same with lucozade, i wont let him have that either.......
i agree with you Mel, why shouldnt all the shops/supermarkets get reprimanded for it

flashy 24-02-2009 21:40

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they also sell those kinds of drinks in pound shops

cherokee 24-02-2009 21:46

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Really if these energy drinks can do so much damage (and we all know they can if taken in large amounts) the surely there should be an age restriction on them?

cashman 24-02-2009 21:49

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the comments on the link are very interesting.

Lilly 24-02-2009 21:55

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 684924)
those drinks are something i have NEVER EVER let Reece drink anyway, he doesnt need anymore energy than he already has, same with lucozade, i wont let him have that either.......
i agree with you Mel, why shouldnt all the shops/supermarkets get reprimanded for it

I have never let my kids drink these drinks either. No-one with the sense they were born with would, would they? :confused:

If it says not suitable for children why are they buying it for them?

Benipete 24-02-2009 22:38

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 684942)
I have never let my kids drink these drinks either. No-one with the sense they were born with would, would they? :confused:

If it says not suitable for children why are they buying it for them?

Trouble is a lot of parents only have the sense they were born with and some of that has been eroded.:mad:

mumtotwo 24-02-2009 22:49

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Originally Posted by cherokee (Post 684933)
Really if these energy drinks can do so much damage (and we all know they can if taken in large amounts) the surely there should be an age restriction on them?

They should have age restrictions on them but they dont.
As you probably know i work at a co-op.If i sell alcohol,cigarettes or lottery a warning comes up on the till reminding us to check if we think there old enough.
But if a 7yr old came to the till with one of those types of drinks there is no warning saying must be only sold to x age and above.
I think its ridiculous but thats the way its sold unfortunatly :(

shillelagh 24-02-2009 23:02

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theyre horrible anyway ..... i'll stick with my orange squash

MargaretR 24-02-2009 23:06

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As well as caffiene, they also contain taurine (Taurus=bull)
not many people know that....Michael Caine:)

shakermaker 25-02-2009 02:40

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 684977)
As well as caffiene, they also contain taurine (Taurus=bull)
not many people know that....Michael Caine:)

That's not love from a bull is it :eek:

emzy 25-02-2009 08:02

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I knew certain shops (seem to think B & M is one) Have signs on the shelf that they will not sell these to under 16's - I may be wrong but am 100% sure I have seen them somewhere just cant quite remember where. I would never give them to my 2, they're hyper enough without giving them something that will make them worse lol

Mick 25-02-2009 08:09

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They sell 4 different types of this in B&M's Red Bull is 69p on Preston Rail station the same size of can is £2
i have never seen any signs in any of the shops selling it not to sell to children though

emzy 25-02-2009 08:13

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 685039)
They sell 4 different types of this in B&M's Red Bull is 69p on Preston Rail station the same size of can is £2
i have never seen any signs in any of the shops selling it not to sell to children though

Im sure ive seen the signs somewhere, no for sure one of the checkout operators in B & M refused to sell it to a youngster (which is why i think i thought I saw it there but may be wrong) I know some of the cans do not carry warnings about not giving it to children (for example Asda's Blue Charge doesnt carry this warning, I know because I have a can here :rolleyes:) But I may make it a mission to find out where ive seen the notices lol

jaysay 25-02-2009 09:20

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I have known for a long time that certain types of drink are rocket fuel to some kids. When I was involved with The National Asthma Campaign (now Asthma UK.) we had a leaflet which told you which E numbers and additives to avoid. I know that Vimto is particularly responsible for hyperactivity in some kids, but this is only one example. I never touch orange squash, yet pure orange juice is fine. I think the thing is these days we have to be evermore vigilant to what we eat and drink as the food industry uses more and more chemicals in their products

AccyLass 25-02-2009 09:21

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It certainly isn't just tesco that sells them to children... most shops would
As has been said, there are no age restrictions on these items

Although there should be

Gayle 25-02-2009 09:47

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Vimto is horrendous. I let my two have Coke before i'd give them Vimto, that's how bad it is.

They went to a friends house for tea a few weeks ago and when I got there to pick them up, all four of the kids were barging around the house, shouting and screaming. She said, 'this has only just started, I don't know what on earth caused it'. It looked like a Vimto reaction to me so I asked her if they'd had any - she checked and sure enough, that's what they'd had with their tea!

Stanleymad 25-02-2009 10:08

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One or two flaws, putting an age restriction on these kind of drinks on top of the other age related products would therefore add added strain on a stretched retail establishment - those who work in retail outlets know the pressures, responsibilites etc.

We have age restrictions on challenge 21 compliance all till staff have to be trained in accordance as do the tills, these include knives of any denomination, alcohol, cigs/cig products. flammable, fireworks, any sprays, party poppers [16], paracetamol [16] etc

then even as far as an electric scooter = age 14 +

Anything of the age 18 has to require proof if person doesnt look 21 also added problem of people buyin products for illegiable age groups must be considered also, if seems the case sale to be refused. Till staff & licencee have huge responsibilty already under current guidelines - if caught breaking the conditions the tiller could face an £80 spot fine as also the licencee which could also have licence in jepordy.

So explaining a bit of background, now tell me whether the responsibility should be with the retailer or importantly the buyer, parents should ultamately decide, i have adhd/add/aspergers within family so very aware of the e no issue, i & that family including the sufferer take responsiblity for that as it should be. Seems the nanny state is taking responsibilty off people & now putting it on the retailer, on top the list we already have think is a tad too far, no wonder nobody takes responsibilty for behavour actions etc ---- just blame someone else.

AccyLass 25-02-2009 10:14

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I certainly think that parents should be blamed if they do buy this for their children.. same with age restricted products

But I know where I work... children come in often without their parents
Some children buy these drinks... would their parents necessarily know that they are?

Stanleymad 25-02-2009 10:24

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Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 685071)
I certainly think that parents should be blamed if they do buy this for their children.. same with age restricted products

But I know where I work... children come in often without their parents
Some children buy these drinks... would their parents necessarily know that they are?

LOL! Thats the wider picture, dont think many parents know or care where their kids are or what they do - nevermind buy, think we all at sometime have come home with something [legally] & its not gone down well in good old days we would of got a huge tellin off, sanctions and maybe a clout round ear & be enough to know not to do it again, but now could mean parents coming down to the shop to do the above to the retailer :eek: I agree there is a lot more kids coming in un-attended quite young these days. Tho as a tiller/retailer u do have a right to refuse should u have any concerns as long as reasonable.

If u put an age restriction then the appeal to the underaged will be hightened & with the ever huge task of having to decipher age & the need to see id, then i think everyone will have to carry id cards from the moment they are born in order to purchase or on behalf off youngsters, making each transaction longer as the queues, we have a miffness with some customers with the current regulations. U wont be able to send yr kid to shop to buy a loaf of bread or milk without id soon lol.

entwisi 25-02-2009 10:51

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Taurine only got a food license in the States because George Dubya was financed into office by the company pushing it.

I'd rather not touch teh stuff thanks

AccyLass 25-02-2009 11:03

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Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 685075)
. U wont be able to send yr kid to shop to buy a loaf of bread or milk without id soon lol.


:eek:Kids have gotta be good for somet!! lol

jaysay 25-02-2009 11:30

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Originally Posted by Gayle (Post 685063)
Vimto is horrendous. I let my two have Coke before i'd give them Vimto, that's how bad it is.

They went to a friends house for tea a few weeks ago and when I got there to pick them up, all four of the kids were barging around the house, shouting and screaming. She said, 'this has only just started, I don't know what on earth caused it'. It looked like a Vimto reaction to me so I asked her if they'd had any - she checked and sure enough, that's what they'd had with their tea!

The first time I herd about the effects of Vimto were about 22 years ago when my consultant Prof Ormerod told me about having to ban his kids from having it, what brought that about was there was a bottle on my bedside locker, I haven't touched it since as he said it can sometimes bring on an asthma attack also

MargaretR 25-02-2009 12:00

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I have googled for Vimto ingredients and found them on a supermarket site.
There is one secret ingredient which the producers guard as a trade secret,
and has been used since Vimto was first made.
Since the formula originated before the days of food additives, I expect it to be one of the 'herbs' in the list below.

Water, Glucose Fructose Syrup,
Fruit Juice from Concentrate (15%) (grape 12.0%, Blackcurrant 1.7%, Raspberry 1.3%),
Sugar, Citric Acid,
Vimto Flavour (natural Extracts Of Fruits, Herbs, Barley Malt & Spices),
Colour (anthocyanins),
Acidity Regulator (sodium Citrate),
Preservative (sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate),
Vitamin C,
Sweetener (sodium Saccharin).

The villain in this list is
sodium Benzoate - a preservative
which has been the subject of safety concerns because it damages DNA in living cells
see-
Caution: Some soft drinks may seriously harm your health - Health News, Health & Wellbeing - The Independent

jedimaster 25-02-2009 12:21

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damn right kids shouldn't be sold these drinks - they'll end up like me :D

katex 25-02-2009 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 685133)
I have googled for Vimto ingredients and found them on a supermarket site.
There is one secret ingredient which the producers guard as a trade secret,
and has been used since Vimto was first made.
Since the formula originated before the days of food additives, I expect it to be one of the 'herbs' in the list below.

Water, Glucose Fructose Syrup,
Fruit Juice from Concentrate (15%) (grape 12.0%, Blackcurrant 1.7%, Raspberry 1.3%),
Sugar, Citric Acid,
Vimto Flavour (natural Extracts Of Fruits, Herbs, Barley Malt & Spices),
Colour (anthocyanins),
Acidity Regulator (sodium Citrate),
Preservative (sodium Benzoate, Potassium Sorbate),
Vitamin C,
Sweetener (sodium Saccharin).

The villain in this list is
sodium Benzoate - a preservative
which has been the subject of safety concerns because it damages DNA in living cells
see-
Caution: Some soft drinks may seriously harm your health - Health News, Health & Wellbeing - The Independent

Can always google a counter argument Margaret :-

Sense About Science | Sodium benzoate

Have a bottle here (the cordial) .. no mention of any caffeine, which is what is usually blamed for making children high. Only thing it says is to mix with 4 parts water -add extra for toddlers (maybe for chance they might spill it, and leave stains ..:D)

Never liked to buy fizzy drinks anyway for my children/grandaughter, as didn't like them to have them with meals ... gave 'em wind and made food sit heavy.

cmonstanley 25-02-2009 20:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanleymad (Post 685069)
One or two flaws, putting an age restriction on these kind of drinks on top of the other age related products would therefore add added strain on a stretched retail establishment - those who work in retail outlets know the pressures, responsibilites etc.

We have age restrictions on challenge 21 compliance all till staff have to be trained in accordance as do the tills, these include knives of any denomination, alcohol, cigs/cig products. flammable, fireworks, any sprays, party poppers [16], paracetamol [16] etc

then even as far as an electric scooter = age 14 +

Anything of the age 18 has to require proof if person doesnt look 21 also added problem of people buyin products for illegiable age groups must be considered also, if seems the case sale to be refused. Till staff & licencee have huge responsibilty already under current guidelines - if caught breaking the conditions the tiller could face an £80 spot fine as also the licencee which could also have licence in jepordy.

So explaining a bit of background, now tell me whether the responsibility should be with the retailer or importantly the buyer, parents should ultamately decide, i have adhd/add/aspergers within family so very aware of the e no issue, i & that family including the sufferer take responsiblity for that as it should be. Seems the nanny state is taking responsibilty off people & now putting it on the retailer, on top the list we already have think is a tad too far, no wonder nobody takes responsibilty for behavour actions etc ---- just blame someone else.

its already in place up here in sunny north ayrshire,,,:mosher:


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