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Ok in scotland ... they're talking about banning 2 for 1 on alcoholic drinks, minimum pricing, and possibly nightclubs contributing to the policing costs for people leaving the nightclub.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Drive to cut Scots alcohol abuse

Now the woman who was interviewed the off licence owner says that shopowners shouldnt have to police what the customers are drinking ... I was in the co-op in haslingden this afternoon and they wouldnt serve a customer with booze because he was drunk ... and in fact the girl said it was illegal for her to serve him with the 2 litre bottle of cider because he was drunk and that she could get in trouble for it. She took the bottle of cider from him and the man stumbled out of the co-op and she said at least he didnt get nasty.

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yep, and McDonalds are responsible for all yard wide asses waddling about everywhere ? should we put a special NHS tax (5p) on all double cheeseburgers because of the increased costs in treating type II diabeties ?

sorry Shillelagh, but it all comes down to personal responsibility, if you want to live in an Orwellian type state where the Govt. takes care of social engineering just keep voting for fascists in the Labour party ...;) ;)

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Its right its down to personal responsibility ... its your fault you get drunk and fall down and break your foot ...

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We can always rely on the Alcoholics to keep the pubs open during the week,Thus enabling the working minority to have a place to wind down on the odd weekend.:D:D

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im glad you said alcoholics because its them on the sick that get paid extra money for buying booze when on benefits and can afford to prop teh bar up during teh day

i wonder if people with cancer can get money for fags when on the sick ?


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if your an alcoholic but pay for your own booze then thats your choice

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It's bloody hard to get nice and steamy up there anyway.
No alcohol sold after 10pm in shops drove me bonkers!

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True enough but there is still a major binge drinking culture up here. They stock up aplenty before 10pm and then drink the lot. As for the alky brigade keeping pubs open is true but sadly some of these alkies are in school so keep the off licences going in the evening.

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So there is no point in not selling it after 10pm.
It is down to the mentality of these drinkers, cost and reduced time to buy will not make a difference.

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think its a daft idea, but par fer coarse in todays society, punish the majority to try to get the minority.:rolleyes:

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Exactly what I was thinking cashy, why punish everyboy for the failings of a few, I kind of like 2 for 1 deals at ASDA, but I don't get rolling drunk.

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Agreed so to me they are floggin a dead horse up here trying. It seems that if by 14 you aint been pie eyed once you are a wimp according to the teen rules of weekend fun.

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Always the same though a minority who have no self control spoiling it for the majority with self control.

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Doesn't seem all that extreme ... In Ontario, we have had laws similar to this for a long time and they haven't seemed to slow down the drinkers who don't abuse alcohol .... all Beer Stores and liquor stores have limited hours, and all ID anyone who looks underage. It is also illegal to serve obviously intoxicated persons in any outlet (tho' in the clubs, where it is crowded, and difficult to police, people seem to get as drunk as they please) ... police regularly pick up people for public drunkeness and give them accomodation for the night (the tank). There is a legal minimum at which outlets can sell booze ... I belive that for beer it is $25 for a 2-4. All these regs. don't seem to put up barriers for folks who just want to have a good time, without screwing things up for everybody else.

Of course, this is in Ontario: each Province sets its own liquor laws.

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maybe its about time we reverted to only selling booze from licenced off licences instead of it been available from supermarkets and petrol stations , that way if a shop soley sells booze they may think twice about selling it to kids if its all they have to sell



it wouldnt cure teh problem but it would cut it down a lot especially if tougher laws come in stopping a family member getting the licence if the owner gets caught

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I don't see how they can equate cheep booze with loutish behaviour. Many of the people out of their trees on a weekend hold down well paid jobs during the week. It is not a question of money but having the common sense to stop drinking when you've had enough. Unfortunately, as proved in many other aspects of society, many people today do not have any common sense, so just do not know when to stop.

The sensible ones amongst us, many of who have been drunk on a Saturday night in town, have made their way home quietly via the kebab shop and caused no problem to anyone. It is not a money issue, it is a behaviour issue and being responsible for your own actions.

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that must mean i'm stupid,have been drunk, mondays,tuesdays etc right through to monday again. but was always the chippy, usually the chinese up whalley road, once asked fer vulture n chips n the guy chased me down whalley road with a meat cleaver.:D no sense of humour.

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Now it's not your fault if they have no sense of humour.

I always walked away when they asked if I wanted 'sore finger'.:D

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Is it not harder to buy it underage from Asda than the local off licence?

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I had the same reaction in the Chinese chippy at the top end of Ossy when I asked for a ton of chips and a battered whale:D

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Another bit for this ... blame spug for this he just told me

Scotland to make alcohol more expensive to tackle abuse | The Sun |Home Scotland|Scottish News

The bit that says that buckfast and bacardi breezers would come down in price - the kids drinks of choice

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And there was no under age drinking back in the good old days when we were young, eh;):D

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no i was old enough at 13.:D

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I was about the same age,but obviously a lot later than you.:D

Tasted better in them days but then again I was only smoking 20 a day.:smokin:

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PMSL I like that answer. Benipete go to the top of the glass. :D

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but we didnt drink openly underaged on street corners then proceed to smash teh bottles over the streets or through windows

we had teh decency to hide up teh coppice or the park and hope to god we didnt get caught as unlike today there woudl be trouble waiting in the form of a good hiding waiting for us when our parents got us alone

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Are you a Methodist?:hidewall::hidewall:

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We bought cider from the local newsagent and he knew we were underage. He used to warn us though, if he saw any of us drinking on the street or staggering about he would personally go and tell our parents. As for smashing bottles in the street, we wouldn't dare do that, not because of what the police would do but because the people around us would tell our parents and then we would really suffer. These days people are frightened to get involved as many parents have lost the art of discipline. That is not a ritual beating but the skilled removal of something we enjoyed (no not teeth!).

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Hide up the Coppice or in the Park accyman, I used to hide in the tap room in the Bay Horse in Ossy myself:D:rolleyes: before going to a Methodist Youth Club Beni:D

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nope just pist :)

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lets be honest here, some may just have smashed the bottles back then if there was NOT money back on em.:D;)

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nope although we shouldnt have been drinking we didnt see standing outside some poor sods house in gangs with beer an option

mainly because if the police didnt nab you then somone would report to your parents what you were doing and a good hiding would have been gotten

mind you we now have no police patroling as such and few parents actually give a damn what their kids do as long as they are out of the way and not bothering them

sadly slalom D wasnt a refundable bottle so it went in the bin