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I got a job!!!!!!!
stand back peeps the jedi is back on the road! :Banane45::Banane45:

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nice one jedi, good on yer.;)

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congratulations jedi ... where you working?

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Congrats :) I know many people who are struggling to find work at the moment so well done :D

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Well done Jedi good on ya:mosher:

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good on ya mate, its about time you had some good luck :D even if you do have to travel all the way to Manchester for it :D

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Good on ya Jedi. Not many about so its good have got one. :D

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thanks everyone - the hard work (2months and 300+ applications) finally paid off

i'm working for courtesy coaches in chadderton, start 7.00 am tomorrow so it's an early night for me (get up 5am) :eek:

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good luck .. and hope you like it ... thats too early for me ... i dont like mornings!!!! lol

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here they are if anyone interested www.courtesycoaches.co.uk

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Congratulations.:)

Hope all goes well for you in your new job.

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Well done......hope it works out well for you.

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am now scratting around for me jobseekers paperwork so i can tell em to "ahem" off

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Well done Jedi, just a note about job seekers allowance, the last person I employed had to fill a form in, and take it to the job seekers office, they said they couldnt accept not sidning on, or a telephone or potal signing off. wth??

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Congratulations big guy ..... guess we won't see you behind the wheel of a Coach Canada bus:D

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yep i know, it's done and ready to go in

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Well done you great news:)

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I am so pleased for you, I know how disheartening it is filling job applications and not getting anywhere.

I have just been looking at the website of the new company that you will be working for -there are a couple of coach company names there that really are a trip down memory lane - Yelloway and Hebble.

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well i'm off to work and i'd just like to say a big thank-you to you all for the support and for all the messages, fingers crossed it all goes well.

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Hope work goes well for you. One of the big problems people have when trying to find work is reluctance to seek jobs further afield than their little home towns, like accrington, so its fantastic that you are prepared to go to Manchester to work.

I have work experience lined up in Stoke on Trent in easter and I'm going to London in two weeks to try and find more. Times are too hard to try sticking in one place, as sad as it is, and people need to just take a deep breath and take risks, and more often than not they pay off.

Good luck :)

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Unfortunately Blazey not everything can travel outside the area for work, because they do not have the transport to get there.

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I was implying moving to find work, but ok.

People make so many excuses about not seeking work that I'm a bit of a cynic.

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Thats not always an option, not with a 2 year old its not. How i wish it was that easy!

Good Luck Jedi, hope your first day went well. :)

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Are you suggesting they move and then look for a job, or get a job and then move? Either way it is not that black and white. Even people classed as Key Workers can struggle to find accommodation once they have secured a job. And that's only rental. Don't know how people trying to sell their properties would go on.

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Selling properties is indeed difficult, particularly at the moment, I'm not an idiot.

But obviously as a student I have to be realistic and see life beyond accrington, and even lancashire and it isn't impossible.

I struggle to see what particular difficulty there would be to move with a two year old, I would have thought its more difficult as the child gets older due to schooling and such.

I'd have thought the best option at the moment available to home owners wishing to move is renting out their houses and renting themselves elsewhere or of course the perhaps controversial but increasingly popular house swap.

People aren't willing to think outside the box and create most of the walls they put up around themselves, it is my pet hate about coming home and I won't be coming home this easter just to avoid the soul destroying attitude that is rife in accrington.

It is sad to think that I don't even consider my home town that much of a home any more just because I feel like a social outcast for wanting more than what accrington has to offer but I guess that is the sad reality of it at the end of the day.

My friend messaged me online yesterday and said she's pregnant again and her key concern is if she has a girl because she currently has a little boy and she thinks her family will stop giving attention to him and favour the potential girl baby. She doesn't even want another baby, she didn't even want the first one.

People like Andrew and I are criticised for being students and not living in the real world and all of that nonsense, but when you look at what actually makes up 'the real world' of accrington, it isn't really worth diving straight into, if at all.

And students are currently pumping money straight into debt to get qualifications that won't even get them a job, but I'm still working hard and spending all my money just to have the chance to find a bit of experience, never mind a job.

If there is a will there is a way. Anyone who says otherwise either can't be bothered to make sacrifices to try or isn't looking in the right places.

And there are a lot of companies recruiting MORE people at the moment, I spend a lot of time involved in careers as I'm on the exec of a student run national careers society at university, so I know there are jobs and opportunities out there if people are willing to seek them out, and there are definitely a lot of interesting ploys to get around the restrictions of the credit crunch, as mentioned already with the housing.

The world doesn't stop because of the recession. It only stops if it snows ;)

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And I'm suggesting look for a job and then move. The internet is a wonderful resource, as are recruitment agencies.

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And these employers are going to wait until you secure accomodation close to said job are they? Doubt it. Unless you have a specialised skill they want, in which case you may get some leeway. |And moving a family is a bit different than moving as a young single person without kids.

Aye, know about the internet, lol, been using it for years. dear. Got jobs through it before, and found accommodation locally. Putting the two together isn't as easy. Don't worry, when you have a family you will see things from a different viewpoint, and know all the ins and outs that make the situation not so black and white

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Blazey, when you set off on your venture let me know, got a t-shirt for you :)

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Blazey -I understand what you are trying to say, but moving away from Hyndburn isn't an option open to everyone and several people have tried to explain why it isn't.

I can understand where you are coming from regarding your friend and that you want to make more of your life - that I presume is one reason you are at university, studying hard (and I am sure playing quite hard as well :D). But, you have to appreciate that not everyone can go to university - because not everyone has the academic ability to do so - this country will always need a lot of indians as well as chiefs. Quite frankly there isn't enough room at the top of for everyone and it isn't always a lack of ambition that holds people back, it is quite often a lack of being in the right place at the right time.

Good luck with your degree, I do hope that you do well and get a job. :):)

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When I left Accy it took me 5 weeks to find a job once I landed up here. The one advatage I had is that I had family up here so somewere to stay. To do a Tebbit you need either family were you move to or money to allow you to rent a place thus be able to find a job. So there needs to be a fine bit of planning if you do try.

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Attention all job seekers ... looking for a new career? High pay, great benefits, retire early on a nice pension ... work anywhere in Canada .... heard on the news last night that the RCMP are looking for recruits, lots of them.:theband:

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i'd rather be a lumberjack - leaping tall trees in a single bound..................:D

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One question "why?"

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Retirement mainly ... same thing applies to nurses .... a few years ago there were hiring freezes ... and now there are upcoming shortages. The crunch for the RCMP will come in about five years; so, they are getting ready now .... The mounties are the federal police force, and they are hiring for all positions ... the oldest recruit so far, in the latest hiring drive was 52! Because of the, shall we say, sensitive nature of much of the stuff the force deals with, many of their clerical staff are members of the force.

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Thanks for that Eric. My question has been answered. :D

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Congratulations on the job... hope it went well:)

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i was doing that late 70s before the wonderful internet, i applied fer a job through a national newspaper in canada, went to manchester fer interview along with hundreds of others, was offered the job, went home put the house on the market, 2 weeks later the mother in law started to suffer badly from agraphobia,she lived alone n could not venture out only rarely, missus was really worried as i was cos she was a lovely lady, missus said to me one night, sorry i cannot leave mam like this, i agreed, so the house was taken off the market next day, n i gave backword. the whole point of this post is ya need to grasp, everyone has there own "Circumstances" n you have to live by whatever life throws at ya, its not all Black n White like you seem to think.:)

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Get Real Blazey!

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I can understand where you are coming from Blazey, but with the greatest respect, you can know very little about the difficulties of trying to relocate with a small child.
It all sounds good on paper....very easy and staightforward.

For instance child care is prohibitive....you would need a very good wage to pay for child care for a working day....and what do you do if you or your child fall ill........you have no social or family network to help you to cope.
How many places of employment have child care facilities......and though many employers may profess to be 'family friendly', in truth they cannot be.....because they want to make a profit.

The other problem is that employers can pick and choose as there are so many people in the job market....and do you think they would choose to employ a mother of a small child if there is another option?
It isn't people who build the walls....and thinking outside the box is just that.....thinking.....it is like rocking on a rocking chair, it doesn't matter how long you do it, it doesn't take you anywhere.
No you have to be realistic and realize that for some people moving to get a job is not an option they can take....much as they would like to.

You are in an enviable position of being young, free and without any family ties...so that gives you a head start....that and the fact that you are getting a uni education too.
There has to be an element of confidence, the confidence to take a risk....and you can be confident when there is only one person to consider(you).
for some people to leave the area would be a jump out of the frying pan and into the fire.

I truly hope that you never find yourself in Lolly's position.


And to Lolly, I am very sorry that life is so hard for you at present. I hope things get better for you soon.

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Excellent point Margaret and one which is hard to comprehend if you haven't been in it. We relocated away from the area in 2000, 18 months later I was made redundant and a single parent in the space of 24 hours. My family were all in Lancashire and without them my support network was none existent. It was a no brainer to return home.

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Obviously I can understand Lolly's position, I do come from a family in a similar situation.

I hate to perhaps be a little cold towards the predicaments of children, but everyone has the choice of whether to get pregnant and have children and if you choose to do that whilst not in a secure or well paying job then you can only really have yourself to blame really.

Sorry if perhaps that is a bit cold hearted, but there are thousands of teenagers at university who manage to not get themselves into these situations, its all about the choices you make.

If you struggle with the lifestyle that having children young puts you in then maybe you should think about that before you have sex.

Sex is 20 minutes of fun but children are a lifetime of commitment and responsibility. I might not have children either but I have a hell of a lot of debt and work to deal with and it seems to be that the more accessible education is to people the more it gets dubbed as some sort of easy option.

'get real Blazey' is a silly comment to make when the reality of it is that I make the decision every day to reject the womanly instinct towards reproduction and family life and I'll have to for many years to come if I want to make a success of myself and properly support a family. I accept that reality. Perhaps if more people accepted the reality of bringing up children then there wouldn't be so many kids ending up resorting to crime and accepting low qualities of life.

I don't feel sorry for anyone who struggles because they've got a child unless they're the victim of rape. If you don't like the consequences then don't have sex.

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I presume your Mum has had this lecture off you ? :rolleyes:

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I'll respond to that via PM.

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And to answer as briefly as I can without dragging my family into something they have no say in, yes I have brought this up with my mum.

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That just enforces my get real comment!

Do you know me? Do you know the circumstances of my sons birth?? Who said I was a teenager, for your information I was 23 when I had my son not some stupid teenage university student and I was in 2 very secure well paid jobs!!!!

I havent struggled at all since having Harry, it is only now that I have been made redundant that I am doing so. So what your saying is that because I have a child I can't make a success of myself and support my son. Oh no of course i cant as i'm not at university and of course only students make a success of themselves!!

You know nothing of my life and until you do please come down off your high horse and stop making comments of things you know nothing about!

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I haven't even said anything directed at you. I have a lot of friends in your situation who are doing perfectly well, in both work and college/uni. These are bad times for everyone.

You could go to uni if you wanted to. You'd get just as much support as me, with extra because you are a parent, you can live in family accommodation (at least at Lancaster you can) there is a creché, plenty of local schools and it'd be an opportunity to learn and try something new.

I wasn't directing anything specifically at you though and I never said anything about you being unable to do anything as a mum, loads of mums do plenty of things. J K Rowling would be a good example of a mum that has done that successfully. Lots of single mums also set up home businesses as well.

I will admit, not just as a student but as someone who works with kids, I never let myself get in the mindset that there just no other alternatives and you have to accept what you are given. I study at a university that initially rejected me after I didn't get the right A level grades after suffering from manic depression. I have to have counselling regularly, I don't sleep and I'm currently having to spend time in the doctors surgery being told I have the symptoms common to elderly sufferers of Alzheimers.

Oh but I'm just a 20yr old student, what the hell do I know about stress? God I just do a full time course and spend all my free time working with kids, doing charity work and supporting students with finding careers. What would I know about ANYTHING? I just go through courses training me in these things for a laugh, they have no value to anyone like YOU because you're older than me and I must be just patronising you.

Well I don't give a toss if you think I'm on my ivory tower, because I hunted the resources down and I built it my damn self with no support from college, no knowledge from my family about my possible choices and only the internet at my fingers, searching for opportunities.

I don't have time to dish out sympathy to people on the internet because there are people who rely on me day in and day out to share what I know with them and THEY don't throw it in my face with excuses, they swallow their pride and they try.

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This post pays lip service to an understanding that you blatantly do not possess.
You infer that all people who have a baby are irresponsible(ok, in a later post you retract that somewhat).
From your own background, of which you have told us something in the past, you should have more compassion.
Circumstances change........you can be in a loving partnership one minute and widowed the next.
You can be in a good job one minute and made redundant the next.
You can be a victim of mental and physical abuse in a partnership.
You are right that babies are for life, and most of us have more life experience than you to know this.......and what life throws at us we have to cope with in the best way that we can....and sometimes that will be as a struggling single parent through no fault or choice of our own.
All this with a baby or child who was conceived whilst in better circumstances. Does this make you irresponsible. I don't think it does.
We all make our choices in life.......and we make them with the information that we have at the time.

Yes.... you will have debts when you leave Uni...but you aren't going to have the bailiffs chasing you for that money...like you would if you defaulted on other types of debt....you will have the knowledge that you won't have to pay a penny back until you earn over a certain threshold.
You made your choice to go to Uni, in the hope that this would give you a better life and future, but...it doesn't guarantee anything.

The fact that you 'don't give a toss' about appearing to be in an ivory tower says much about you as a human being.
As I previously said in post...I hope that you don't have the misfortune to suffer the kind of situation that Lolly is experiencing at the moment.

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I said nothing about stress. I made no comment to your personal circumstances as you shouldnt with mine. Until either of us no them we should not comment on them.

I applaud you for trying to make a success of yourself, i sometimes wish I had gone to university and not just got a job straight out of college. But those are the choices I made and I deal with the circumstances in the hand that i've been dealt.

I'm not one of these people who sits on their arses and does nothing all day, and am trying my best to get a new job so that I can provide for my son. I know exactly what resources their are at universities for people like myself, do you not think I havent thought about it a great deal recently? Anyway I have that sorted now and am going to do my degree, anyway thats irrelevant.

I think we have hijacked Jedi's thread enough! (Sorry! lol) and we should agree to disagree.

Thankyou Margaret, karma coming to you when I can!

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very well put margaret
everyone's situation is different, blazey you applaud me for finding a job yet you condemn lolly for not being able to find a job. while I appreciate the sentiments sent from people on the forum unfortunately, yours I DO NOT! I find you single minded and downright ignorant to other peoples suffering, You blame people for making the best of what they have.

let me point a few things out to you also
firstly I am also a parent who had the misfortune to be made redundant from a job which I really enjoyed and that paid a reasonable wage - am I to be blamed for having a child 7 years previous to this, at a time when I was in full time employment and able to provide for my family? was I blessed at birth with the ability to look into a crystal ball and predict that this would happen? I THINK NOT, The result of which has been two months of hell with letters threatening bailiffs and being taken to court to have our home reposessed, scraping by on very little.
as for the job itself it is by pure luck that the job came my way (a chance phonecall at the right time to an employer who is friends with an ex employer). this 1 interview and resulting job offer was the only result of over 300 phonecalls/e-mails and applications covering an area spanning from lancaster to birmingham, and yes it is out of the area and a lot of discussion had to go into whether i could AFFORD to accept the job
I was lucky that the job was offering good money, and I have JUST enough money left to cover the extended fuel costs incurred in travelling to work
I am also lucky in the respect that I am paid WEEKLY in arrears so only have to cover 2 weeks of travel costs and not 2 months. There was also the extra childcare costs of sending my daughter to breakfast club and after school club just so I can arrive at work on time, and luckily they have accepted waiting untill i start getting paid for the money. I also have one luxury that lolly doesn't - I am NOT a SINGLE parent and my wife also works full time. Had any one of these circumstances been different YOU WOULDN'T have been congratulating me because i'd still be jobless.

Don't condemn people for circumstances that are beyond their control and that you know nothing about!

Lolly I understand what you're going through hun, It's not easy I know but keep your chin up something will come along - and good luck with your degree ;)

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good post jedi, ya may get degrees n qualifications in university, but blazey will learn, ya don't get common sense yon.;)

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aye probably on his first day in the real world of employment, when an old timer plants him!

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female jedi.:D

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Him??????????????????:confused:

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oops! probably start kicking off about equal rights now:p

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I'll take bets on it. :D

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no chance shes yer superior.:D

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Well said Jedi . Karma sent .
Good luck with the new job and I hope all is going good for you,

Lolly already sent you a pm other day hun . Stay positive . I know its not easy but all will come good in time.

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always two there are, a master and an apprentice!

Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh. Excitement. Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless.

:D

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Tell me what you are drinking and will pass it on to a friend. :D

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You are on for a sawbuck .... she might not do the obvious; it takes common sense to do that:rolleyes:;)

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This could explain why you attempt to seek attention here through supporting the Conservatives one minute, and then Labour the next. Same thing with your Hitler then Graham Jones avatar, and posting about your boyfriend at the same time as saying you've joined the lesbian and gay group at your college.

I remember you once posted a reply when I pointed out this anomaly before that we 'shouldn't always believe what you post'. So every thing you post should be taken with a pinch of salt, and sadly for you that also includes when you post something that's actually true to you.

It's sweet you've discovered that there's a big wide world outside of the borough boundary, but this is something most of us all ready know, even the ones who've never left.

I've travelled all over the world and met some interesting people, but he most intelligent person I know happens to have lived here all their life. There are all kinds of people all over the country, interesting, clever, dim, funny, droll, passionate, it's just knowing where to look.;)

I hope you've got your cycling proficency badge...for when you set off after university seeking a job.

:)

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I voted for the Conservatives but was never a part of the Conservative Party or Conservative Future, so when I went to Labour it was my first official political affiliation, of which I am still a part of.

I think Graham Jones is good at what he does but I disagree with him. Similar to Hitler, he was great at what he did but it was wrong what he did.

I am bisexual, therefore having a boyfriend and being in the LGBT is not a shock horror thing, particularly as the LGBT society is LGBT 'friendly' which means they recruit straight people who simply want to help defend gay rights and so on and so forth. As an example, a lot of straight people disagree with the fact that gay people can't donate blood.

I have over 2yrs before I have to find a job yet, if not longer depending on whether I choose to do a masters. I'm not concerned about finding a job but then I'm not particularly concerned about a lot of things you bring to my attention.

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I would prefer not to know about your sexual orientation, it has no bearing on the subject of the post, though I am sure you will reply that you are just answering another poster....it really isn't necessary to answer.

And the two years that you still have left will go by in a flash.....and you will be looking for a job at some point.......probably with hundreds of thousands of other people (this is a depression, not a recession....and it is still going to be hanging round).......I hope you remember your thoughtless comments on here then...but I fear that you won't.
The only good thing is that you won't be encumbered by a baby or young child....will you?....because you know that 20 minutes of pleasure isn't worth a lifetime of slavery to a dependent.

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This is a great post, summarises exactly what is wrong with being 'narrow minded' like Blazey.

Blazey your comments about single parents are completely unacceptable. I will give you an example of a very good friend of my daughters, who is a single parent. She has two children, both very much loved and wanted, but when her children were 10 and 1 she was widowed - her husband was killed in an accident at work. she had no choice about over the very terrible situation she found herself in. I just wonder how you would cope in that situation - would you like it if someone told you that you shouldn't have had children because your husband might be killed at work?

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I know many single parents and I'm from a single parent family myself.

That situation you outlined can't be helped, just as many people's situations can't be helped. But there are MANY people who have numerous children knowing they can't afford it because they're too righteous to have a termination and they were too careless to take precautions. Obviously mistakes happen, but not THAT many.

Don't twist my words. I never directed anything at Lolly or her personal situation. What I'm saying is that I'm not going to waste time feeling sorry for people.

Sympathy solves nothing.

You find me a situation were saying 'aww what a shame' or words to that effect solved a social problem and I'll apologise. Until then, I'm not going to feel sorry for anyone. I can simply suggest solutions, and people can shoot them down if they wish without trying, that's fine, makes no real difference to me, but don't shoot ME down just because I'm not willing to feel sorry for people.

Falls are part of life and sometimes you have to pick yourself up. I've been made redundant, didn't like it but all I could do was get up and try again. Nobody said it was meant to be easy. Most things in life are a struggle for us in Accrington, it comes with being from a poverty-stricken area and I don't know why anyone expects otherwise.

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Posted via Mobile Devicewell Blazey maybe you could try having some empthy. But you do appear to have your head buried in the sand. Just wonder what your opinions will be like in 10 years time.

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She might even see that poverty and wealth exist side by side in many places in the country.;)

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Blazey you do not have to express emotions that you do not feel.......you could for once just keep your own counsel....is that too hard for you?
By heaping derision on those unfortunates you actually increase there low esteem/feeling of worthlessness.......and this is from someone who, while you may be from a single parent background, seems to have little comprehension of the problem.
As for you making suggestions as to solutions for those in a dire financial situation, you cannot see how circumstances make these solutions impractical.

You are still making sweeping generalisations about the fecklessness of those who have children too.
Do you consider your own mother was feckless? No, don't answer that question, I don't really want to know.

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I happened to see one ex-student's profile on the internet the other day.

They were working in a bar/club in a north Lancashire city, taking photographs, and then trying to sell punters a little momento key-ring.

Reality!

:eek: