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cashman 10-03-2009 19:33

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691039)
Think this course will be extremely arduous too Margaret, and linked with heavy interviews to syphon out the potential students to qualify for these courses. More so, I suspect, from graduate > teaching training.

ya seem to have more faith in this cretinous government than most.:D

Royboy39 10-03-2009 19:43

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691108)
ya seem to have more faith in this cretinous government than most.:D

Can't believe you said that. :confused::D

As a young soldier I was sent on active service after 6 months training, after that it was learn as you go on.
6 months training is better than throwing them in at the deep end straight from Uni or College?

cashman 10-03-2009 19:46

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 691120)
Can't believe you said that. :confused::D

thats cos i say it as i see it.:D if i think they are right i say so, if not then cashys coming.:D

katex 10-03-2009 20:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691122)
thats cos i say it as i see it.:D if i think they are right i say so, if not then cashys coming.:D

Never any grey areas with you Cashy. Just out and out criticism before we know all the facts.

We don't really know what is involved here as yet, all we know is that education is short of people like mathematicians, and these people are on the redundent heap, and have the best brains in the country. If there is any hope that we can pursuade them to pass on their knowledge to our future generations, then I am all for it.

I think worth a try at least. Nothing to do with the my feelings towards this Government ... just think worth a go.

cashman 10-03-2009 20:26

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my critisim stems from the fact, to me theres plenty of good teachers as well as the chaff, that have undertaken much longer training than 6 months, that to me undermimes their efforts.:(

katex 10-03-2009 21:09

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691134)
my critisim stems from the fact, to me theres plenty of good teachers as well as the chaff, that have undertaken much longer training than 6 months, that to me undermimes their efforts.:(

Aah, but did it need longer than 6 months ? Used to be 2 years in our day Cashy ... but then they had to add extra knowledge to their chosen subject, which took up most of their time. These people will have the knowledge, just training in social, streamlining their subject, disciplinary and presentation matters. If they have got it .. they will make it, and will make just as good a teacher as the 'just out from college trained teachers'.

cashman 10-03-2009 21:19

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Disagree, fer me Character plus proper training makes a good teacher, not anyone will do, just cos theve been thrown on the dole.:rolleyes:

katex 10-03-2009 21:24

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691171)
Disagree, fer me Character plus proper training makes a good teacher, not anyone will do, just cos theve been thrown on the dole.:rolleyes:

Like I said, I do not think they will take on people who are 'anyone' :p

cashman 10-03-2009 21:28

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691178)
Like I said, I do not think they will take on people who are 'anyone' :p

from the white collar brigade,yer joking, owt to improve the employment figures,

katex 10-03-2009 21:34

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 691182)
from the white collar brigade,yer joking, owt to improve the employment figures,

Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

cashman 10-03-2009 21:36

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691184)
Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

perhaps its cos ya aint had much experience of the political "Big Guns"? cos if ya had ya would be as cynical as me.:)

Royboy39 10-03-2009 21:41

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691184)
Don't see it that way, making use of people's skills/knowledge in an area where there is a defecit.

Getting people into jobs educted to gradute standard or not can't be a bad thing surely?

katex 10-03-2009 21:47

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 691188)
Getting people into jobs educted to gradute standard or not can't be a bad thing surely?

These people will already hold degrees and Masters. Just chose to go out into the business world with their qualifications. Sorry Royboy, are you agreeing with me ?

Royboy39 10-03-2009 21:53

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691190)
These people will already hold degrees and Masters. Just chose to go out into the business world with their qualifications. Sorry Royboy, are you agreeing with me ?

Not many 'jobs for the boys' left....I will say yes to agreeing with you...not everyone who you consider daft, slaver. :)

garinda 10-03-2009 23:38

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 691023)
I don't see any particular reason why this could not work myself, after all, as pointed out imparting knowledge to others is a talent and an art.

With the 1 year training at the moment, whose to say these present students are ever going to 'grasp' it at the end of the day. No amount of training can bring this out in some people.

Many of these candidates will probably have some knowledge of training people in their work situation.

I sort of agree.

You're just as likely to find a good, or bad teacher for that matter, as a result of recruiting this way because the recession.

At least these people will be able to pass on something of what it's actually like in the real big bad world, rather than some dopey kid whose done a years post-grad teaching course, after doing a degree in me-dya studies at the University of Bognor.

Good teachers are so important. They can either scar you, or impart a love of a subject for life.

Wherever they recruit them from, I just hope they manage to find the ones who are going to be good at it, rather than attracting those who may see it as just a stop gap job until they can return to a more cushy job in Civvy Street, once things begin to pick up in the City.

My only hope is that no directors of any newly part privatised banks are given jobs this way. Most of whom seem to have lacked even the most basic academic qualifications you'd need to be a bank teller, never mind run one...into the ground.


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