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Pamperqueen 25-03-2009 12:05

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What is the thing you would most change about your neighbourhood? My younger sister is doing her dissertation on the modern neighbourhood and is looking for ideas if anyone woud like to help her out. What are the biggest problems that go unchanged? Is it crime, eyesore buildings, lack of services, lack of neighbourliness, lack of planning regulations? Any ideas gratefully accepted....

entwisi 25-03-2009 12:07

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Nothing, I like where I live just as it is.

pipinfort 25-03-2009 13:05

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 696427)
Nothing, I like where I live just as it is.


Same here................

Gayle 25-03-2009 13:07

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I like lots of things about the neighbourhood that I live in. I think the one thing I would change would be 'lack of pride'. Things like graffiti, youth issues, damage, dog poo, rubbish on the streets, etc - are all symptoms of a lack of pride in the area.

If you could get everyone to be proud of the area they live in then people would be more likely to protect it and look after it.

Caz 25-03-2009 13:10

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Not got a problem up here, at least not at the moment. :)

Probably the best thing for your sister to do is look at her own neighbourhood, and write about her perspective on it. Would most likely get a more passionate and in depth article then, I'm sure.

accyman 25-03-2009 13:19

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What is the thing you would most change about your neighbourhood
the amount of cats roaming about the place , its about time we had a nationwide kull of these verminous creatures

we slaughtered thousands of cows for merely having a cold yet these vile creatures spread disease indiscriminatly and get to live :rolleyes:

also a nationwide kull on vandals woudl be nice too :)

flashy 25-03-2009 13:50

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the only thing i would change is for them to make more play areas for the kids

accyman 25-03-2009 13:55

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 696467)
the only thing i would change is for them to make more play areas for the kids

they wont , infact they removed most areas becaus ethey were frightened of peopel sueing when tehir kids fell of a swing or rounabout

all they need is a sign saying use at your own risk or somthing:rolleyes:

flashy 25-03-2009 14:10

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your spelling is terrible today Mr lol

Benipete 25-03-2009 14:20

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 696426)
What is the thing you would most change about your neighbourhood? My younger sister is doing her dissertation on the modern neighbourhood and is looking for ideas if anyone woud like to help her out. What are the biggest problems that go unchanged? Is it crime, eyesore buildings, lack of services, lack of neighbourliness, lack of planning regulations? Any ideas gratefully accepted....

Lack of education.The kids and some parents can't read-learn and inwardly digest a simple sign that says NO BALL GAMES.
Rant over.:confused::confused:

flashy 25-03-2009 15:19

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and you abided by every rule when you where little did you Benipete?

Benipete 25-03-2009 15:25

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 696491)
and you abided by every rule when you where little did you Benipete?

Oh yes and though I admit that no one is perfect I'm the closest you will ever get.:hehetable
At every thing I do.:D:D

flashy 25-03-2009 15:26

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 696496)
Oh yes and though I admit that no one is perfect I'm the closest you will ever get.:hehetable
At every thing I do.:D:D

hmmm lol

seems people forget how they where when they where kids :rolleyes: ;)

jaysay 25-03-2009 16:11

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 696498)
hmmm lol

seems people forget how they where when they where kids :rolleyes: ;)

I was the same flashy and you could ask my parents if they were still with us:rolleyes:

MargaretR 25-03-2009 16:13

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I would like the minimotos, miniquadbikes and trial bikes that churn up the grass on the LCC field near me...............CRUSHED

accyman 25-03-2009 16:44

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 696519)
I would like the minimotos, miniquadbikes and trial bikes that churn up the grass on the LCC field near me...............CRUSHED

their supposed to be crushed its just lancashire police seem to be scared of taking them away from kids

should take a leaf out of yorkshire polices book , they love taking things away to be crushed , the police there keep the guy with the crusher very busy with motorbikes,mottos and cars :D

i know this because my pal works for yorkshire police and nothing makes him happier than to send a motto away for crushing while their poor excuse for parents scream about how much the moto cost them pmsl

MargaretR 25-03-2009 17:10

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Only a week ago Wayne and Waynetta visited the field with their 4 brats +miniquad.
I stood at my window and directed ultra negative vibes, and sure enough the dratted machine spluttered to a halt after 15 minutes. I watched with delight as the shaven headed Wayne nearly dislocated his shoulder spending 30 minutes trying to get it going again.:D

katex 25-03-2009 17:25

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May I just ask what her subject is Pamperqueen ? Could possibly get your sister some outlining help here, although some good input already.

Eric 25-03-2009 18:05

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 696426)
What is the thing you would most change about your neighbourhood? My younger sister is doing her dissertation on the modern neighbourhood and is looking for ideas if anyone woud like to help her out. What are the biggest problems that go unchanged? Is it crime, eyesore buildings, lack of services, lack of neighbourliness, lack of planning regulations? Any ideas gratefully accepted....

The bottom line for neighbourhoods is that you have to work with what you already have ... I suppose one could look at how an area has developed, and why it grew up the way it did. Look at what worked and what didn't .... I think that any larger community is a community of communities, all driven by a complex of forces which weaken as other imperatives take over .... in my home town, for example, there is a lot of "retail driven" develpoment ... large malls and box stores change the shape of a communtiy ... usually for the worse. "Eyesore" buildings can be a problem ... "lack of services" can ruin any neighbourhood ... and there have to be standards and regulations; but these are effective only to the extent that folks have some input into them. In Kingston, there is an area know as the "ghetto" ... this is where there is a lot of student housing, and some of the more rapcious landlords had a habit of not maintaing the houses that students live in ... the response of the student govt. (Queen's Alma Mater Society) was to institute the "Golden Cockroach" award, to be given to the worst landlord (along with honorable mentions for the good ones ... this is most often Science '44 Co-Op) ... it seems to have had some effect, because for the last two years, no landlord has been bad enough to get the honor.

cashman 25-03-2009 23:42

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i like my area n theres a predominantly asian prescience on our street, very few chavs, a few upper class smackheads, (they use clean needles):D

accyman 26-03-2009 00:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 696722)
i like my area n theres a predominantly asian prescience on our street, very few chavs, a few upper class smackheads, (they use clean needles):D

i thought an upper class smackhead was a smackhead who left a thankyou note after stealing your dvd player and LCD tv :confused:

Pamperqueen 26-03-2009 07:29

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 696544)
May I just ask what her subject is Pamperqueen ? Could possibly get your sister some outlining help here, although some good input already.

Social studies. She's moved around a lot the past few years and is new to the town where she's studying, so although she's seen quite a lot of different types of neighbourhood and can compare them, she's getting a bit stumped on some things.

Some great points on here and good inspiration for her. Some of the people she's been interviewing have said there's a significant change in the behaviour of young people. Some quite shocking stories, such as kids of 11 or 12 trying to steal bikes/purses/a hat! or scrawling graffitti in plain view of adults who dont feel they can tackle them. Do you think this is true or not?

emzy 26-03-2009 07:37

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 696786)
Social studies. She's moved around a lot the past few years and is new to the town where she's studying, so although she's seen quite a lot of different types of neighbourhood and can compare them, she's getting a bit stumped on some things.

Some great points on here and good inspiration for her. Some of the people she's been interviewing have said there's a significant change in the behaviour of young people. Some quite shocking stories, such as kids of 11 or 12 trying to steal bikes/purses/a hat! or scrawling graffitti in plain view of adults who dont feel they can tackle them. Do you think this is true or not?

I have had an incident where I spotted some kids leaving their "tag" on my garage door. They saw me but didnt stop. I would have gone out and said something but felt too intimidated too, there was a group of them (from the local high school) and to be honest id rather just leave them than tackle them, dont trust them and fear that they do something else to my house / garden if tackled. Am not scared living where I am but not inviting problems if i can help it.

jaysay 26-03-2009 09:15

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I wouldn't actually swap where I live, we have very few problems, in fact only one and that's being sorted. I've lived at my present address for 19 years approx. and like the area very much, but I do sympathise with Margaret and the Quad problem, but that's at the other side of the estate and doesn't really affect me.

mattylad 26-03-2009 17:48

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Originally Posted by flashy (Post 696467)
the only thing i would change is for them to make more play areas for the kids

Rather than play areas for kids, because these are usually what is put in, in most places - swings etc for the under 9's.

How about putting in areas & equipment for the older ones, they never get anything. Which is why they hang about on the streets and cause so many problems - they have nowt else to do.

So for the local community - add more community centres, older child play areas, areas they can hang out etc. Not little kiddy rides.

MargaretR 26-03-2009 18:29

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How about excercise playgrounds for oldies?
Playtime for Grandma: Council opens new playground for the over-60s | Mail Online

cashman 27-03-2009 00:06

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Originally Posted by mattylad (Post 697039)
Rather than play areas for kids, because these are usually what is put in, in most places - swings etc for the under 9's.

How about putting in areas & equipment for the older ones, they never get anything. Which is why they hang about on the streets and cause so many problems - they have nowt else to do.

So for the local community - add more community centres, older child play areas, areas they can hang out etc. Not little kiddy rides.

better just to re-open detention centres n approved schools n borstals.:D

mallard 29-03-2009 11:22

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well they are being fined for this sort of thing,but me my self i dont think thats the best thing,they should make them do the things what they don,t like.

accyman 29-03-2009 12:00

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to be honest i think the biggest contribution to the downfall of neighbourhoods was the huge increase in buy to let properties where landlords bought up a lot of houses and rented them out to anyone and couldnt care less how thier tennants effected a neighbourhood as long as they got the rent paid to cover the mortgage

i think a few people here can probably relate to their once peacefull street been decimated because a landlord put some scummy family into a house to get his mortgage paid:rolleyes:

landlords should be held more accountable for their tennants behaviour so that instead of renting to anyone to get the mortgage paid they will stop and think if tehy woudl liek teh person they are renting to living next door to them

katex 29-03-2009 12:15

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 698051)
to be honest i think the biggest contribution to the downfall of neighbourhoods was the huge increase in buy to let properties where landlords bought up a lot of houses and rented them out to anyone and couldnt care less how thier tennants effected a neighbourhood as long as they got the rent paid to cover the mortgage

How do you decide what is a 'scummy' family though Accyman. What do you suggest we do with them ? A walled ghetto in the heart of the town ?

accyman 29-03-2009 12:33

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 698055)
How do you decide what is a 'scummy' family though Accyman. What do you suggest we do with them ? A walled ghetto in the heart of the town ?


usually the ones with loud music until the early hours of the morning , people kicking and banging on their door at all hours of the day and night , windows put through from arguments ,kids both young and in their teens doing what the hell they like because mummy and daddy havnt taught them any better ,parents who should you risk complaining will key your car or put a brick through your window

in holland families liek this are forced to live in converted shipping containers under motorway bridges until they can prove they are fit to live amongst decent people again

katex 29-03-2009 13:14

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Did actually understand what you meant by 'scummy' Accyman, LOL but does a landlord know that they are before renting out a property. Don't know anything about this area ... do you have to provide references or anything (beside financially maybe ?).

Suppose he just has to rely on the services to deal with loud music, vandalism, etc., but if they smash all his windows, then does he have some sort of right to try and evict them ?

katex 29-03-2009 15:31

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Controversial thread running on Burnleyweb at the moment ... wow, they aren't half knocking their council, but quite a lot about tenants and landlords :-

Scum residents in Burnley - Burnley, Padiham and Pendle Online

Hope I was allowed to put this up. Might help Pamperqueen's sister anyway; definitely addresses all social issues ... :D

magpie 29-03-2009 15:52

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I would ban all children over five : and goal posts and balls .....oh the list could be endless:

emamum 29-03-2009 16:32

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Originally Posted by magpie (Post 698089)
I would ban all children over five : and goal posts and balls .....oh the list could be endless:

what shoudl we do when the children get to five then? and at what age are they alowed to come back?

MargaretR 29-03-2009 17:00

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I understand why Magpie said that.
Children are often noisily exhuberant at any age
There are play areas where they could run and shout but idle parents sitting in boozing whilst watching the telly can't be bothered to take them there, or they don't encourage active hobbies for them to use up that energy.
I am having a 'fraught' afternoon because of a 4 year old.
His dad has 'access' and has chosen to use it by dumping the little lad on his brother whilst he spends the afternoon in the pub.
The 'brother', my next door neighbour, has a mental age of a child himself ('learning difficulties'). The little lad is taking running jumps at the back of the door to the flat. This banging and his high pitched squeals are clearly audible in my flat. All this is happening within 10 feet of open fields where the little lad could let off steam without upsetting anybody.

So that is why us 'oldies' sometimes prefer to be segregated from children when choosing where to live.

accyman 29-03-2009 17:31

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im not botherd about noise kids make they have to play but what bothers me is the damage they do and the parents coudlnt give a stuff

its about time a law was passed making parents resposible for damage their kids do until the age of 16 then perhaps when it starts hitting them in their pockets instead of the victims they may actually start to take note of what their kids get up to

sadly common sense never prevails and these morons continue their lives scott free while everyone else has to pay for their bratts damage:rolleyes:

magpie 29-03-2009 17:53

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 698099)
what shoudl we do when the children get to five then? and at what age are they alowed to come back?



:)sedate them and wake them up when they are 30 .... ( that said my 30 year old daughter is harder work now than when she was a child ):)

Pamperqueen 30-03-2009 08:37

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Bad tenants seem to be a hot topic indeed.

Isnt this the kind of thing the Anti Social Behaviour Act was suposed to sort out? Has anyone here ever reported anti social behaviour and how did you get on?

jaysay 30-03-2009 08:43

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Originally Posted by Pamperqueen (Post 698221)
Bad tenants seem to be a hot topic indeed.

Isnt this the kind of thing the Anti Social Behaviour Act was suposed to sort out? Has anyone here ever reported anti social behaviour and how did you get on?

I have and the case is being delt with at the moment

cashman 30-03-2009 08:46

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 698223)
I have and the case is being delt with at the moment

how long as it been going on and how long should it take to resolve? any thoughts?

jaysay 30-03-2009 09:00

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 698225)
how long as it been going on and how long should it take to resolve? any thoughts?

Its been going on for quite a while cashy, HH are dealing with it, but its not as easy as people think to sort these things out, in as much as having the culprits removed, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel

cashman 30-03-2009 09:13

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 698233)
Its been going on for quite a while cashy, HH are dealing with it, but its not as easy as people think to sort these things out, in as much as having the culprits removed, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel

i assumed as much, also assume thats why some cannot be bothered to report, also why some take the law into their own hands.:eek:

jaysay 30-03-2009 09:18

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 698238)
i assumed as much, also assume thats why some cannot be bothered to report, also why some take the law into their own hands.:eek:

twenty five years ago I would probable have taken option two cashy, but I'm not quite as fit as I was then:rolleyes:

Eric 30-03-2009 17:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 698233)
Its been going on for quite a while cashy, HH are dealing with it, but its not as easy as people think to sort these things out, in as much as having the culprits removed, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel


The light at the end of the tunnel is probably on oncoming locomotive:eek:

panther 30-03-2009 17:47

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Where i live...OSSY :D
I would get ALL the pubs open again:D
every single last one of em ;)

jaysay 31-03-2009 09:58

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Originally Posted by panther (Post 698429)
Where i live...OSSY :D
I would get ALL the pubs open again:D
every single last one of em ;)

Hell panther, if they had to open all the pubs that were once in Ossy, you'd have a lot to choose from. I'm sure a lot of the older end on here remember the old tale about the Union Road Pub Crawl, the tale has it that if you had a thimble full of ale in the Commercial at Church then doubled up at every pub, you'd never get anywhere near the Black Dog


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