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MargaretR 11-05-2009 14:39

Al Qaeda is an invention of the yanks
 
I find this amazing:eek:
How devious can governments get?
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf...ever%20existed

or.............is this yet another lie:confused:

Tealeaf 11-05-2009 14:41

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Margaret has been on the pop again....

MargaretR 11-05-2009 14:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 712816)
Margaret has been on the pop again....

Thanks for that serious recommendation - now that you decide it is phooey, most other people will think it is very logical:D

***Mr D*** 11-05-2009 15:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 712815)
I find this amazing:eek:
How devious can governments get?
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf...ever%20existed

or.............is this yet another lie:confused:

Interesting watch, Although it supprises me the BBC have admited this. Must be some information coming out about it soon that cannot be stopped.

How devious can goverments get, Sureley not at all.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

jaysay 11-05-2009 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 712833)
Interesting watch, Although it supprises me the BBC have admited this. Must be some information coming out about it soon that cannot be stopped.

How devious can goverments get, Sureley not at all.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

They can get much more devious than that Mr D:rolleyes:

cashman 12-05-2009 19:30

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well as the "British" n "American" public were convinced Saddam had WMDs n it was proved to be bullsh1t, will someone please explain, why this is not possibly crap as well?:rolleyes:

katex 12-05-2009 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 713228)
well as the "British" n "American" public were convinced Saddam had WMDs n it was proved to be bullsh1t, will someone please explain, why this is not possibly crap as well?:rolleyes:

Anything is possible Cashy ....LOL http://planetsmilies.net/sign-smiley-6940.gif

Mancie 12-05-2009 20:17

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If the Yanks did invent Al Qaeda then they can't spell...when I went to school I was taught that a if a word had the letter "Q" in it the letter "U" always had to follow....so how come "Al Qaeda" get away with flaunting this rule? :confused::)

Royboy39 12-05-2009 20:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 713240)
If the Yanks did invent Al Qaeda then they can't spell...when I went to school I was taught that a if a word had the letter "Q" in it the letter "U" always had to follow....so how come "Al Qaeda" get away with flaunting this rule? :confused::)

I think there may be an alternative medicine remedy for that....somewhere? :)

SPUGGIE J 12-05-2009 20:38

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Wonder if because Pakistan wasnt towing the "american line" all this kicked off. Al whatever n the other mob are getting a gentle push in that direction?

MargaretR 13-05-2009 03:33

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Wonder if the yanks needed control of that archeological site near ancient Babylon.
no - I haven't been on the pop :D

Mancie 13-05-2009 05:07

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When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the star

I reckon that sums up Margarets theory!

jaysay 13-05-2009 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 713278)
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the star

I reckon that sums up Margarets theory!

Your definitely Aquarius Mancie:D

JohnW 14-05-2009 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 713240)
If the Yanks did invent Al Qaeda then they can't spell...when I went to school I was taught that a if a word had the letter "Q" in it the letter "U" always had to follow....so how come "Al Qaeda" get away with flaunting this rule? :confused::)

You don't play scrabble then Mancie? Have a look in a scrabble dictionary next time you're in a bookshop.

Royboy39 14-05-2009 18:28

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Originally Posted by JohnW (Post 713811)
You don't play scrabble then Mancie? Have a look in a scrabble dictionary next time you're in a bookshop.

The only word that Mancie can spell without looking it up is Tory, followed by a load of expletives. ;):)

derekgas 14-05-2009 19:53

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As well as that roy, Mancie can spell Man Utd, he does however struggle with L... Li..... Liv..... Liver..... oh sod it, I cant say it either! :D :p To get back on thread, I can well believe that the yanks would make this up.... Its all in the name of oil!

MargaretR 14-05-2009 21:52

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Pakistan President Asif Ali Zadari says on this video (ref Osama Bin Laden)

"we knew he was your operator"

YouTube - Pakistani President: Osama Bin Laden is dead

jaysay 15-05-2009 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 713838)
As well as that roy, Mancie can spell Man Utd, he does however struggle with L... Li..... Liv..... Liver..... oh sod it, I cant say it either! :D :p To get back on thread, I can well believe that the yanks would make this up.... Its all in the name of oil!

Its hard work for Mancie to use the full name of his team especially after a few cans of Special Brew:D

MargaretR 24-05-2009 02:04

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Look at this little gem I found :D
It's the creepy plotters who rule us we should really be scared of | Mail Online
There is no such organisation as ‘Al Qaeda’. The spooks know this, Cabinet Ministers know this and so do the ‘security correspondents’ who so readily trot out the spooks’ point of view on our broadcasting networks.
Of course, there are terrorists, and there are also fantasists, fanatics, low-lifes and camp followers who plot and attempt horrible things. Some of them even call themselves ‘Al Qaeda’ these days because they have learned that this is a good way to scare us.
But, while they are a menace, they are not as big or as organised a menace as the Government likes to make out.

derekgas 24-05-2009 10:38

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It is probably another 'deflection' from real issues Margaret, the American government are so much better at propaganda and spin than our lot, but we know where our government got it from, I have long been of the opinion that, many bad things we endure in this country, actually came as a result of American ways, now that we have sky, we are probably more influenced by USA than ever, and little of it is good influence. Even the greed, corruption, selling of public industry etc, that I for one blame Maggie for, was American influenced, our 'government's' have, imo, been spineless and lacking in ideas and conviction for years.

MargaretR 25-05-2009 10:53

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The hoax of the century? - 911 - watch this(in full) and then comment if you wish

911: Ripple Effect - Full Length Video

Tracy J 30-05-2009 15:53

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Yep war for profit ,,bush should be done for war crimes

SPUGGIE J 30-05-2009 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tracy J (Post 717744)
Yep war for profit ,,bush should be done for war crimes


War will always make a huge profit for the victors. Yet just because the Americans are considered ni on invincible remember their record in major world conflicts is won one drawn one lost one. The small guerrilla/terrorist/freedom fighter can bring em down. America 0 Vietnam 1 USSR 0 Taliban 1.

As for war crimes there will always be that but what will be dictated by the victors not the losers.

accyman 30-05-2009 17:43

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well i suppose afte the yanks crated peace in ireland and had to stop selling guns to the ira to kill our soldiers with they needed somone else to sell guns to

derekgas 30-05-2009 20:50

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I have always thought it was war for profit, and often wondered just how anyone got near the pentagon, this seem to maybe shed some light on it, Thanks Marge.

cmonstanley 31-05-2009 08:13

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the irony americans=war for profit al qaeda war for prophet:rolleyes:

SPUGGIE J 31-05-2009 08:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 717858)
the irony americans=war for profit al qaeda war for prophet:rolleyes:

Now that is a nice statement and a good chance of being true. Starting to think that America wants world domination.

Speedy 31-05-2009 22:25

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I could easily spend months watching the videos from 9/11.

I find it fascinating how thier are so many conflicting storys/photos/videos...most of which point to it being an inside job.

Search for 9/11 conspiracy theories or truth behind 9/11 and see for yourselves.

ossy kid 01-06-2009 01:32

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There are still some people believe there was an actual "moon landing". Nothing surprises me anymore as far as governments are concerned.

Neil 01-06-2009 07:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 718104)
There are still some people believe there was an actual "moon landing". Nothing surprises me anymore as far as governments are concerned.

Have you not seen Mythbusters MythBusters Episode 104: "NASA Moon Landing"

Boeing Guy 01-06-2009 07:36

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Of course 9/11 was faked, it had to be it is extremely had to fly a modern large airliner in to a large tower block.....please..... Actually it is a lot easier than you may think.

Despite all the rubbish sprouted by those clever people, who have never flown a Cessna let alone a jet, the towers were hit by big Boeings, full of jet fuel, which is flammable by the way, and thousands of innocent people died by the actions of some terrorists. Sorry it is that simple.
But what do I know, I am only a Professional Boeing Pilot.

Al Qaeda is a kinship of terrorists, like a franchise, you commit these atrocities and then do it the name of Al Qaeda.

What happened after, well that is a different matter.

MargaretR 01-06-2009 08:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 718121)
Of course 9/11 was faked, it had to be it is extremely had to fly a modern large airliner in to a large tower block.....please..... Actually it is a lot easier than you may think.

Despite all the rubbish sprouted by those clever people, who have never flown a Cessna let alone a jet, the towers were hit by big Boeings, full of jet fuel, which is flammable by the way, and thousands of innocent people died by the actions of some terrorists. Sorry it is that simple.
But what do I know, I am only a Professional Boeing Pilot.

Al Qaeda is a kinship of terrorists, like a franchise, you commit these atrocities and then do it the name of Al Qaeda.

What happened after, well that is a different matter.

Not all pilots take your view -
core group @ pilotsfor911truth.org

jaysay 01-06-2009 08:41

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It doesn't matter what the incident is be it flying planes into tower blocks blowing up tube trains or buses or landing on the moon there will always be people that are sceptical of the facts, its all part of human nature

Neil 01-06-2009 09:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 718125)
Not all pilots take your view -
core group @ pilotsfor911truth.org

Well I for one will listen to our own resident expert. After all crashing a plane must be easy, landing the damn things must be hard.

I know I am really good at crashing in Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. :D:D

andrewb 01-06-2009 11:15

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The internet does breed some interesting fairy tales..

MargaretR 01-06-2009 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 718160)
The internet does breed some interesting fairy tales..

Governments are good at telling fairy tales too, don't you think?:rolleyes::D

Speedy 01-06-2009 12:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 718167)
Governments are good at telling fairy tales too, don't you think?:rolleyes::D

I wish i could give you more karma:D.

Having spent many an hour watching footage from 9/11 and hearing hundreds of peoples statements on the events, im 85% sure that the US goverment helped or allowed 9/11 to happen.

There is just too many things that happened that dont add up, steel doesnt melt till 2800degrees jet fuel burns at 1800degrees!?!

The BBC reported tower 7 collapsing before it happened.....how did they predict the future, the building only had minor fires, even firemen where suprised that it collapsed.

And dont even get me started on the pentagon attacks....:rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 01-06-2009 15:33

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Neil, got it in one... the 737 can be a bloody tricky thing to land.

On the subject though, funny how people believed the earth was flat and some still do.

Benipete 01-06-2009 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 718208)
Neil, got it in one... the 737 can be a bloody tricky thing to land.

On the subject though, funny how people believed the earth was flat and some still do.

Can't be that hard,Women can do it.

Mind you as I said when I was leaving the aircraft "It's a good job you didn't have to back it in":hehetable:hidewall::hidewall:

***Mr D*** 01-06-2009 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 718172)
I wish i could give you more karma:D.

Having spent many an hour watching footage from 9/11 and hearing hundreds of peoples statements on the events, im 85% sure that the US goverment helped or allowed 9/11 to happen.

There is just too many things that happened that dont add up, steel doesnt melt till 2800degrees jet fuel burns at 1800degrees!?!

The BBC reported tower 7 collapsing before it happened.....how did they predict the future, the building only had minor fires, even firemen where suprised that it collapsed.

And dont even get me started on the pentagon attacks....:rolleyes:

I Agree there are many reports / anomalis (SP) regarding 9/11.

People believe what they want to believe.

I would agree the amount of information out there is huge, some is total rubbish, some has some very good evidence.

Tower 7 Collapse, the BBC report video below.:rolleyes:
YouTube - ENHANCED VERSION: News Reports WTC7 Fell Before It Happens!

Speedy 01-06-2009 20:41

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Just found this video that very nicely reveals lots about the pentagon attack.

Must admit a lot of this footage is new to me, the animated "crash" was VERY impressive.

Does raise a lot of questions.

YouTube - 9/11 conspiracy theories

Neil 02-06-2009 07:15

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The Pentagon story has always been iffy as far as I am concerned

Neil 02-06-2009 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 718279)
Just found this video that very nicely reveals lots about the pentagon attack.

Must admit a lot of this footage is new to me, the animated "crash" was VERY impressive.

Does raise a lot of questions.

YouTube - 9/11 conspiracy theories

In that clip look at 2:25, on the right hand side it looks like wheels

derekgas 02-06-2009 10:41

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At 5.16 it says they are cable spools!

Neil 02-06-2009 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 718317)
At 5.16 it says they are cable spools!

I found that out when I watched that bit :D

There is something wrong with the official story about the pentagon, what they said just does not make sense

derekgas 02-06-2009 13:11

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margaret r posted a video earlier, that is a good watch, but is 1 hour 26 mins, took me most of Sunday to watch the entire video, it all makes you think that the US government are hiding something...

***Mr D*** 02-06-2009 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 718327)
margaret r posted a video earlier, that is a good watch, but is 1 hour 26 mins, took me most of Sunday to watch the entire video, it all makes you think that the US government are hiding something...

There are 100s of video's that make you think the US govement are hiding something, and not just relating to 9/11.

jaysay 02-06-2009 15:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 718330)
There are 100s of video's that make you think the US govement are hiding something, and not just relating to 9/11.

You mean there's really no Father Christmas and those Yanks have been keeping us in the dark:eek::D

SPUGGIE J 02-06-2009 17:49

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Did they shoot at the plane with their usual accuracy when the plane was approaching the Pentigon? Not the best shot in the world are they. Besides it could have been a very peed of soldier trying to get his own back on the top brass who shot it down . ;)

yerself 02-06-2009 18:22

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BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links

Al-Qaeda, meaning "the base", was created in 1989 as Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden and his colleagues began looking for new jihads.

derekgas 02-06-2009 18:26

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I am not having it that A) There were only 2 camera's in front of the Pentagon, and B) That any aircraft could get close enough to the Pentagon and not be 'taken out' given technology these days. It will, after all be a no go for aircraft, without permission.

MargaretR 02-06-2009 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yerself (Post 718393)
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Al-Qaeda's origins and links

Al-Qaeda, meaning "the base", was created in 1989 as Soviet forces withdrew from Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden and his colleagues began looking for new jihads.

The BBC is under the control of government - so I don't neccessarily believe all they report.

That 7/7 Ripple Effect video showed that the BBC were threatened with government intervention if they didn't report what the gov wanted them to, during the planning of that so called 'terrorist excercise'

......and in the 9/11 Ripple Effect video, they reported the demolition of a Trade Centre building before it happened, whilst it was still visibly standing in the background shot.

You are being told what they want you to believe - just use your intuition - it is more likely to be right

Mancie 02-06-2009 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 718352)
You mean there's really no Father Christmas and those Yanks have been keeping us in the dark:eek::D

hang on there...I'll keep an open mind on some of the theories on here but no Father Christmas?...don't get carried away! :eek:

Neil 03-06-2009 07:23

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Read them and then believe what you want because you will always be able to find an internet link to what you want to believe on this topic.

The Truth Seeker - Al Qaeda – The Database

Al-Qaeda - A History

Green Left - Cover Story: Al Qaeda's origins

Al-Qaeda - MSN Encarta

accyman 03-06-2009 09:38

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well if you honestly believe that 3 aircraft can be hijacked over american soil by people learning to fly mostly on a mirosoft video game and crashed into the heart of one of their largest cities and that highly trained military forces were scambled to react but were sent in the wrong direction then i would say its you with your head in teh sand lol

it may be easy to crash a jumbo jet but to crash it with accuracey is another thing especially if you have only ever spent a few hours in a simulater and a few goes on a PC game

unles sof course flyinga jumbo jet is easier than what we think.

i used to play microsoft flight simulater but i dont fancy my chances of landing a real plane

jaysay 03-06-2009 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 718522)
Read them and then believe what you want because you will always be able to find an internet link to what you want to believe on this topic.

The Truth Seeker - Al Qaeda – The Database

Al-Qaeda - A History

Green Left - Cover Story: Al Qaeda's origins

Al-Qaeda - MSN Encarta

That's the only trouble with the Internet Neil, you can find anything to support any ideas on whatever you want, the thing is to sort the wheat from the chaff, the trouble is there is shed loads of chaff and not enough wheat:rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 03-06-2009 14:50

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Accyman, a jet aircraft is flown on autopilot. to control this you push the HDG SELECT button, the dial above that turns it in any direction, second you push V/S the wheel next to this alters the altitude up or down, finally you hit the N1 button this allows you to control the speed by turning the dial near to you. this is of course on a Boeing 737, the aircraft I fly, as long as it's in Autopilot you are sorted.

In 20 minutes I could show you how to control a Boeing 737 and fly it into anything you want with Flight Sim. It is that easy, flying is easy, its the landing that's hard. That said I could show you how to land in auto mode.

MargaretR 08-06-2009 08:31

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I found this
http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?iur...hp%3Ft%3D67816

Mancie 08-06-2009 08:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 718579)
Accyman, a jet aircraft is flown on autopilot. to control this you push the HDG SELECT button, the dial above that turns it in any direction, second you push V/S the wheel next to this alters the altitude up or down, finally you hit the N1 button this allows you to control the speed by turning the dial near to you. this is of course on a Boeing 737, the aircraft I fly, as long as it's in Autopilot you are sorted.

In 20 minutes I could show you how to control a Boeing 737 and fly it into anything you want with Flight Sim. It is that easy, flying is easy, its the landing that's hard. That said I could show you how to land in auto mode.

there we go..from a man who knows.....the people who flew those airplanes into the towers did have basic flying lessons prior to the event and no intent on landing safely.

***Mr D*** 08-06-2009 17:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 719591)

Whoops.:D

Boeing Guy 08-06-2009 17:07

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Thanks, Mancie


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