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flashy 16-05-2009 15:35

would you start again at 66?
 
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would you want to be running around after a child when you get to 70?

cashman 16-05-2009 15:38

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don't think they should be allowed IVF at that age, not fair on the child.:(

flashy 16-05-2009 15:39

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she went abroad for it cashy

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:40

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This woman is selfish.......and she won't be doing the running, because according to the papers she has hired a live in nanny.
Having a child is not a right.

And as to your original question, the answer is a most emphatic NO.....I would rather eat my own eye balls.

katex 16-05-2009 15:44

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It doesn't state whether she is married or has a partner does it, or any other children ?

Read an article last week on a 57 year old who did the same, but she had a husband 11 years younger than her, and thought no different to men having babies with much younger women.

However, I am 66 next time ... and 'no way', got used to space now.

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:46

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Kate she is divorced....and as far as the papers are aware, no man in the picture.

Neil 16-05-2009 15:48

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I wonder what the risks to baby and mother are at that age?
The chances of birth defects must be higher as well.

There is a reason why women stop being able to have children.

Less 16-05-2009 15:49

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I'm not that old yet, but the grand children I have I like running around with, I can at least hand them back at the end of the day.

The need to reproduce should be left to those with the Hormones, if anyone deserves help it's the potential parents of 'child baring age', not some selfish person that left it too late.

BERNADETTE 16-05-2009 15:50

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Selfish woman, no I definately would not like to start again.

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:52

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And how can this be a 'shock' pregnancy?
She sought out an egg donor and had IVF.....not much shock there unless she was shocked when she received the bill.......and Yahoo News reports that she 'fell' pregnant.......intimating that it was a natural conception.......what a load of rubbish.

garinda 16-05-2009 15:52

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The titty bottles might be a bit dusty,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5dRM95dfxY...l25-06-53b.jpg

flashy 16-05-2009 15:53

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shock to the people who know her maybe?

flashy 16-05-2009 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 714389)
The titty bottles might be a bit dusty,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5dRM95dfxY...l25-06-53b.jpg


lol not heard anyone call one that in years Gary

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:55

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she says she isn't concerned about what other people may think.........and those who really know her will, I am sure have been in the 'know' well before now.

flashy 16-05-2009 15:56

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hey Marg, dont shoot the messenger

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:57

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NO, I'm not Flashy, but these silly women get on my mammaries.

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 15:58

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The Menopause happens for a reason.....it is nature telling you that middle of the night feeds and teething are too much for an ageing woman.

shakermaker 16-05-2009 16:01

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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

I'm sure a child would have benefited no end from her foster care. That route should have been exhausted if she had such a parental urge.

Less 16-05-2009 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 714396)
The Menopause happens for a reason.....it is nature telling you that middle of the night feeds and teething are too much for an ageing woman.

Ah, that's why I ended up divorced!

garinda 16-05-2009 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 714396)
The Menopause happens for a reason.....it is nature telling you that middle of the night feeds and teething are too much for an ageing woman.

I agree with what you're saying, but what about men?

Is it just a design fault, that in theory they can carry on siring children until they drop....or until it drops off?

:D

flashy 16-05-2009 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 714399)
Ah, that's why I ended up divorced!


:rolleyes:

accyman 16-05-2009 16:45

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lol as teh baby gets teeth she will be loosing hers

omg i just had a horrible image of a 66 year old woman breast feeding, she would be able to lay teh baby on teh floor and feed it while she was standing up :eek:

flashy 16-05-2009 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 714400)

Is it just a design fault, that in theory they can carry on siring children until they drop....or until it drops off?

:D


men ARE a design fault, end of

accyman 16-05-2009 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 714412)
men ARE a design fault, end of

hmm if you call the ability to take a pee standing up without wetting our feet a design fault then yup you have a point :)

flashy 16-05-2009 16:51

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 714413)
hmm if you call the ability to take a pee standing up without wetting our feet then yup you have a point :)


shouldnt that word at the beginning be INABILITY?

shillelagh 16-05-2009 16:55

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Nope .... mind you i havent started yet anyway .... mind you dont you think i've enough looking after spug ....

accyman 16-05-2009 16:57

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 714419)
Nope .... mind you i havent started yet anyway .... mind you dont you think i've enough looking after spug ....

dont you think its about time you tried feeding him solids :D

West Ender 16-05-2009 17:15

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Every time I hear about a case like this I am convinced the woman in question has to be stark raving mad.

This woman is the same age as me. Now I suppose if I'd never had any children I might have this rosy idea of how idyllic it would be to have a child. I have, however, had 3 children and 2 grandchildren so I live in the real world, where babies are concerned. OK, she's going to have a nanny. Outside the royal family and the very rich it's rare to get a nanny who's on hand 24 hours a day for years and years.

The lady says she's very healthy. Yep, she probably is right now because she's never had broken nights with a teething child or caught every known germ from a toddler who brings them home from Nursery on a daily basis. Wait until the day she's playing with Junior on a beach or in a park and she gets a sudden Senior Citizen's twang in her back/leg/arm/whatever - and it will happen - or she falls asleep over lunch because she only got a couple of hours the night before.

I would predict that when she's 76 (and Junior is still only 10) she will feel and look more like 86 and poor Junior will probably be an orphan before he/she is 21. How sad.

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 714400)
I agree with what you're saying, but what about men?

Is it just a design fault, that in theory they can carry on siring children until they drop....or until it drops off?

:D

Well, the man's role in procreation is quite minor......leave a deposit and that is it.......men do not carry a child, are not affected by the hormonal changes of pregnancy(except perhaps second hand)........do not give birth, or breast feed.... do not suffer the indignity of pelvic floor problems.......(let's not go there)and if they do have any hands on skills they are, in the main, quite limited....in short they are not the main carer for a baby/toddler/child........and in my experience most men let mum get up with the tinlid when they are teething or running a fever or are just plain restless........OK, there may be some of you men out there who do a bit more.....but from what I have heard from younger family memebers and friends it doesn't really amount to much.

So I think it is just a bit different for men....and if they really wanted to, a man can just leave his deposit and then.......leave....no emotional attachement.

Neil 16-05-2009 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 714427)
Well, the man's role in procreation is quite minor......leave a deposit and that is it.......men do not carry a child, are not affected by the hormonal changes of pregnancy(except perhaps second hand)........do not give birth, or breast feed.... do not suffer the indignity of pelvic floor problems.......(let's not go there)and if they do have any hands on skills they are, in the main, quite limited....in short they are not the main carer for a baby/toddler/child........and in my experience most men let mum get up with the tinlid when they are teething or running a fever or are just plain restless........OK, there may be some of you men out there who do a bit more.....but from what I have heard from younger family memebers and friends it doesn't really amount to much.

So I think it is just a bit different for men....and if they really wanted to, a man can just leave his deposit and then.......leave....no emotional attachement.

It must have been hard for you living with that kind of man. Why did you not get rid of him if he was so useless?

MargaretR 16-05-2009 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 714441)
It must have been hard for you living with that kind of man. Why did you not get rid of him if he was so useless?

Well I did :D, but very few women are in a position to do that financially.
There is an added factor - love
It is not until you stop loving your man that you see him in his true light.
The death of love for him can occur gradually as a man's selfishness erodes a woman's self respect.
So beware you husbands - every wife has her limits of tolerance

Margaret Pilkington 16-05-2009 18:20

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Neil, I didn't say that I lived with this kind of man...but I know women who do.

Garinda asked a question and I gave my opinion on it....it is true that the physiological effects can never ever be experienced by a man...or do you dispute that?
And that is why child bearing is different for a man than a woman.......a man need have very little practical input........unless of course he wants to........watch Jeremy Kyle a few times and you will see what I mean.....and just because you may handle child rearing differently doesn't mean that that is the model for all fathers.

In respect of this woman, she is purely an incubator....this child is not biologically hers........and OK, there are mothers who foster children, and the children get a better mother than the biological kind......but I believe that it is wrong for women to have babies at such an advanced age.....just because we have the science to achieve it doesn't make it right.

emzy 16-05-2009 18:40

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In answer to the original question, no i wouldnt start again at 66, wouldnt even start again now lol

I agree with so many reaponses, it is wrong to me and just because we have the technology to do it it shouldnt be done, once it is no longer "natural" for a woman to conceive then it shouldnt happen

shillelagh 16-05-2009 18:48

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I would say that after the age of 50 IVF shouldnt be available to women in this country .. and if a woman after the age 50 wants to do that then she will have to go abroad and pay for it, if she comes back to this country then she pays for all prenatal care and for the birth and for all antenatal care as well.

Whos going to bring that baby up .. the mother or the nanny .. the nanny is going to be there 24hrs day ... why .. is the mother not going to take any responsibility for the baby, change nappies, feed him/her, comfort her/him etc .. or is the baby going to be wheeled out for the cameras .. this is my mummy and shes 76 years old .. on jeremy kyle in 10 years time....and what is she going to be like in 10 years time .. is her health going to be 100% -is dementia going to kick in, a stroke, a heart attack, etc

I dont agree with it as you can probably tell. My mum when i was born was nearly 42 ... one teacher when i was at the high school is this your grandma? No its my mum and the teacher oh right and did a runner ...

AccyLass 16-05-2009 18:59

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I think the baby should be taken off her at birth, and be given to responsible people

Ones that actually have a chance of being there after it's 10th birthday

Lilly 16-05-2009 21:24

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Having had my first child at 22 it is possible that I could be a great grandma by the time I am 66. :eek:

I don't fancy having another child who is the same age as my great grandchild........how weird would that be? :rolleyes::D

MargaretR 16-05-2009 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 714486)
Having had my first child at 22 it is possible that I could be a great grandma by the time I am 66. :eek:

I don't fancy having another child who is the same age as my great grandchild........how weird would that be? :rolleyes::D

I am 66 and have a 24yr old granddaughter.
She is a binge drinking WAG - thank goodness she hasn't had a family yet.
She thinks more about designer handbags than babies.
Perhaps will be OK in a year or two when she has matured:rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 16-05-2009 22:41

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I am in my 40's now and have definately not ruled out the chance of having another child. The hospital classed me as an "at risk" mum first time around 13 years ago because I had left it so late and even asked me if I may have "forgotten" about previous pregnancies...peoples opinions would not stop me having another child as long as I am fit and healthy enough to carry and deliver the child..

flashy 17-05-2009 10:04

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hmmm someone wants to make her mind up

see post 18

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...e-46715-2.html

Margaret Pilkington 17-05-2009 10:14

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Flashy...it is a womans prerogative to change her mind:D.

Gayle 17-05-2009 11:19

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In defence of some men - looking after children is a shared job and many men do share it equally. I think things have changed a lot since the days of women doing all the childcare.

I realise they don't actually carry the kids, although believe me I made sure Chris suffered just as much as I did when I was carrying each one of them. He felt the pain every day during my pregnancies. :D

Anyway, back on to the mad woman in question here - I wouldn't even want to have another one at 44, how crazy is she to want one at 66?

flashy 17-05-2009 13:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 714582)
Flashy...it is a womans prerogative to change her mind:D.


maybe Marg but certain people are all to quick to jump down others throats for doing things like that :rolleyes:

lindsay ormerod 17-05-2009 20:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 714580)
hmmm someone wants to make her mind up

see post 18

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...e-46715-2.html

Read it again darling, I said "not sure" . :rolleyes:
( think it's time you found a new pastime, my old postings can't be that enthralling.)

flashy 17-05-2009 20:19

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you truly are pathetic and petty Lindsay, your quick to jump down other peoples throats for something as silly as a spelling mistake, but can't take criticism when it comes to your own bull

maybe its you who needs to get a new passtime hunni

panther 18-05-2009 18:59

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Who's gonna support this child?
what if she drops dead in 5/10 years time?

Im 36 and NO WAY id have another child at my age:eek:
As someone stated earlier in the thread a woman goes through the menopause for a reason!!

I think she had a sperm donor too?

The answer is simple she had the IVF in the Ukrain, so, she should go back their to have the child and let their country help and support her.

When that childs 4 she will be 70 FFS its just not right!

jaysay 19-05-2009 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 714446)
Well I did :D, but very few women are in a position to do that financially.
There is an added factor - love
It is not until you stop loving your man that you see him in his true light.
The death of love for him can occur gradually as a man's selfishness erodes a woman's self respect.
So beware you husbands - every wife has her limits of tolerance

In a blokes case he probably stops loving his partner the moment he wakes up after a bender and looks round and sees he's hasn't slept with Raquel Welsh, but the dragon from hell, complete with the fiery tongue:D

lindsay ormerod 20-05-2009 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 714757)
you truly are pathetic and petty Lindsay, your quick to jump down other peoples throats for something as silly as a spelling mistake, but can't take criticism when it comes to your own bull

maybe its you who needs to get a new passtime hunni

What spelling mistake are you referring to?
Didn't quote to highlight any spelling mistakes.
I am quite good at taking criticism, as long as it's constructive and useful.
I really don't know what your problem is with me but my life is too precious and valued too much by others to waste any more time on your vindictive diatribes.

flashy 20-05-2009 20:57

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wow it took you a couple of days to come up with that drivel did it?


impressive

lindsay ormerod 20-05-2009 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 715429)
wow it took you a couple of days to come up with that drivel did it?


impressive

Yeah, I have a life and a job, keeps me busy most days! :rolleyes:

flashy 20-05-2009 21:10

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another exciting installment of the wonderful life of Lindsay...can't wait till the next episode

lindsay ormerod 22-05-2009 18:11

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Yep, it's great being me! :D


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