Fine, Speeding, Court Ect
 

As above, fine's seem a plenty in todays order, so much so some might say that the police are more like revenue collectors.

So my question is where does all this money go from the likes of

Speeding and other motoring offences.
Public order and other offences.
Ect / Ect.

I have an idea but would like other people's opinion first.

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I for one, would like your idea, you started it so give us an opinion!

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They all go back in the pot Mr D to sustain and improve these services.

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OK Mr Speaker......................:rolleyes::)

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Ok,

Based on some info I have seen. BUT I cannot confirm this is correct, hence why I would like to debate the issue.

The fines Ect are paid to investors (dont know who this is/could be), the investors have paid the goverment an agreed price up front for the right to collect the fines, and have access to the revenue stream generated from it.

I will try to find the video (as it goes intoa lot more details) I watched and made me think as I orgionally though it went to the goverment.

I thought I would see what others though also.

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Here is the video I watched, 10 mins but worth a watch.

Now Im all up for being told this guy is talking tripe but from watching this and his other video's it has opened my eyes.

YouTube - TheAntiTerrorist on Corporate Revenue Collection

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I know that guy from way back,Tells porkies:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Really? for what purpose?
Our government tells porkies, and they have a purpose - greed/corruption


PS - traffic wardens now have a card which they can produce to gain entry to your home - now what purpose is that?
Maybe to take on police duties when police are busy.
Busy with what ?- maybe civil unrest on a large scale.

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For the first part - If you new him you would know why:rolleyes:

As for the second part,They only work 9-6 mon.- sat.So not in my scope of misdemeanor,:D
Apart from that I know where they park up all day:D:D

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Have you more details on this Margaret ?

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Nothing that I can supply here.
If you know a traffic warden well - just ask - don't expect him to say 'yes I have', but watch how it makes him look uncomfortable to be asked

PS it was on Yahoo news but has now been removed
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090322/...d-dba1618.html

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The bloke in the video is only talking about speeding fines...why does he feel the need to get togged up as if he's on his way to rob a security van? :confused:

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Why would he lie, its supported information, he even suggests you dont believe him and check it out for yourself.

His other video's are well informed with no benefits for him.

I have also heard this, but I just heard they could read you your right's (Does this mean they can arrest??), nothing about entering your home, I see wardens every day I will ask one.:)

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He has a few other video's on certain other subjects, maybe he is scared of being silenced, maybe its to creat an identity, maybe to prevent legal action being taken against him for (Advice) not that he gives any.

Who knows.

Only speeding fines, its a bit more involved.

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That now deleted news item mentioned 'powers of arrest'

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Big Brother is watching, Mancie:D

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So no one else want to say where they feel all the revenue generated by Fines goes to???

168 Views and not much opinion.:rolleyes:

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Well looking at the roads Mr D don't seem like its going to maintain the roads, should be ring fenced

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Thats the thing its going into nothing, apart from to the investors.

Investers are probably a corperation of kind who will have shareholders, they will demand profits, which will in turn lead down to more fines being required to meet the set targets.

This then shows why the police are more revenue collectors nowadays.

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You still don't know who he is do you??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Well perhaps this isn't the place to put fairy tales?

Post something with a modicum of sense instead of a guy that does Homer Simpson impressions and maybe folk will think you have a serious point of view?

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How long have you been sucking lemons :D

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like most money spent in the uk it will probably go on supporting the constant onslaught of imigrants heading across our boarders wether it be treating them , housing them or feeding them

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Is it the "Fonejacker" ?

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could be or cold also be an ex IRA supporter with a new cause :)

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I cant Say I do, Please enlighten me.

I have had the opinion that all the police do nowadays is collect fines, £60 for this £60 for that, and the courts issue fines for fun, £150 / £200 which doesnt seem to be helping with crime figure's but certainly generates good revenue.

Fairy tales? as stated above enlighten me, Im all up for being told he is talking tripe, but dont just say it put forward your case.

That wouldnt supprise me, I though I paid council tax for this reason?

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just sussed him...fat..black..deep voice...It's Barry White, he aint dead! :D

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Here you go Mr D, have asked me expert:-

"The 'revenue' from speeding fines (it's not really revenue it's
endorsable penalties issued by the police authority/courts as a
punishment for breaking the speed limit - something people tend to
forget...) is split roughly 85/15 between reinvestment in local road
safety programmes and the Treasury. The reinvestment in local road
safety would be split between the Local Highway Authority, the Police,
the Magistrates' Courts and the Local Camera Partnership (a consortium
body of different groups who decide where cameras might be needed and
monitor their relevance etc). It is harder to identify what the
Treasury choose to spend their 15% on because they don't need to
identify 'ring-fenced' funding streams. I suspect it would just go into
the central 'pot' that pays for all public services - not necessarily a
bad thing - because public services cost money."

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I thought everyone new that,it is after all common knowledge.:D:D

Still some people prefer to live in their own little world of conspiracy theories.:confused::confused:Ah bless 'em

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Well it is now becoming 1084 revisited Beni, for Winston Smith, read Gordon Brown:D

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Yes, but was just trying to get a professional statement without excessive googling and put in a straightforward and simplistic way ... peevish ... http://planetsmilies.net/tongue-smiley-8870.gif :D

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Thanks for this information, when I have time I will digest it.

Are we not allowed to question things.

Im still awaiting for you to tell me who it is as you state you know.

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Did dispute this Margaret ...so thought I would ask this question from the horse's mouth. This is the reply I received:-

Dear Ms *****

Civil enforcement officers do not carry cards which enable them to enter
homes. I believe this may have been mixed up with officers that the
government are looking to employ in the future to enter peoples homes to
assess them for council tax etc.

Regards
ICPSMW
ParkWise
Po Box 1023
Preston
PR1 3ZA
www.parkwise.org.uk
Enquiry line: 0800 195 2774
E-Fax: 01772 530730
Payments: 0845 117 2924
ParkWise is the name given to the partnership between Lancashire County
Council and the twelve non metropolitan district councils of Lancashire
who enforce and administrate civil parking enforcement on the highway
and off street car parks.

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I admire your quest for information.

I would say they may not "Carry Cards" now but may have them planned for the future.:D

And whats this about officers that the govement are looking to employ to enter people's homes to assess them for council tax Ect.??:confused:

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Dunno Mr D .. wondered myself, but wouldn't worry, will probably only affect folks who are 'twisting' the facts of their accommodation ...or maybe spotchecks on who is living there in time for the next census .... :D

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Worry Me, Never.:D

Census whats that then.:D:D

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I think its something you have to fill in every ten years are so, or you get a great big fine:D:D

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Yes it is, I sometimes wonder if they go too far with their questions and infringe on our right's to freedom and privacy.

Why should there be a penalty of any kind if I, for example refused to fill it in?
:p

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Spot on Less, a bit like, why should I be forced to pay a parking fine, when my son was driving my flippin car, back in December, he will pay me back, but if he didnt, there is nothing I can do other than pay the fine! never had a damn parking fine of my own, I always got away with it by appeal! :D:D

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That's tough Derek, but parking tickets are issued to the owner of the vehicle, not the user at the time (not a criminal offence like speeding). You were responsible for lending out the car so will have to take the user to task. Can you imagine the cost if everyone were arguing that they were not the user at the time .. would cost a fortune.

Sure you will sort yer lad out though ... LOL.

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Todays Mail on Line
State recruits an army of private snoopers with police-style powers | Mail Online

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Intersting Link,

Time for people to learn there rights.

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The same rules apply in Spain for most traffic offences,they don't care who was driving,It's the owners responsibility.if the owner lends his/her car to an idiot that is their fault.

Seems to work for them.:stop:

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If that bailiff is a registered 'accredited person', he has police powers as shown in the police Reform Act 2002
http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/polici...20apr%2007.pdf
http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/publ...rs?view=Binary

The Police Reform Act 2002 (“the Act”) introduced a system whereby persons who are not police officers may exercise certain police powers. Under Section 40 of the Act it is stated that the Chief Officer of any police force may, if considered that it is appropriate to do so (for the purposes set out in Section 40(3) of the Act), establish and maintain a scheme to be known as a “Community Safety Accreditation Scheme”(CSAS).


(1) Any person who assaults: -

(a) a designated person in the execution of their duty,

(b) an accredited person in the execution of their duty, or

(c) a person assisting a designated or accredited person in the execution of their duty, is guilty of an offence and shall be liable on, summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.


(2) Any person who resists or wilfully obstructs: -

(a) a designated person in the execution of their duty,

(b) an accredited person in the execution of their duty, or

(c) a person assisting a designated or accredited person in the execution of their duty,
is guilty of an offence and shall be liable on, summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale or both.

(3) Any person who with intent to deceive: -

(a) impersonates a designated person or accredited person

(b) makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is a designated person or accredited person,

(c) makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he has powers as a designated person or accredited person that exceed the powers that he actually has, is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or both.


1984

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Oh dear - I meant that post to go in DerekGas's bailiff thread
..so I have put it there too

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Have seen it there too Margaret, no go and take your tablets dear, and have a rest :D :D :p