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I've been awol from AW for a few days, I'll explain. Last Tuesday I had an MOT at the Royal Blackburn, and another appointment with the COPD team, everything was fine, keep taking the tablets. I arrived home at 11-30am from whence I saw nobody that day or the next, Thursday morning I woke up and wasn't feeling tikitiboo, thought I'd eaten something that didn't agree, the symptoms abated during the day, yet Friday I felt even worse. Over the years I have learnt to tell the difference between a chest infection and exacerbated asthma, I follow three rules, Temp, sputum colour and blood sats levels, all three weren't good, took necessary steps to combat, Ant Bios and boost in steroids. Needless to say, over the weekend I was as rough as a badgers tadger, in bed all day. My Cm came to see me yesterday, upped the strength of the anti bios and Steroids, It appears that during my 2 hour say at the Royal Blackburn I had caught an HAI, and am waiting to see just what little gem I brought home as a gift, I'm just hoping its not something very, very nasty, the samples are at the Path lab and will get to know Thursday or Friday, John is not a Happy Bunny:(:(:(:(:(

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Sorry to hear that John,Hope you are soon on the mend.

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Sorry to hear about that, John, but glad to see you back.

Been asking Cashy and Mthead if they knew owt, as your prolonged absence from Accyweb (most unlike you) was a bit worrying.

Anyway, I'm sure you'll make up for lost time now! :D

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Nice to see you back online. I have a question though.

How do you know you have caught a HCAI if you have not yet got the results?

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I hope you are feeling better soon mate.

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Because I hadn't been anywhere else or seen anybody else since the previous Sunday

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So you are simply presuming that it is a HCAI, which, are extremely difficult to catch in a clinic environment. You would be far more likely to catch one if you were an inpatient, having an operation etc.. I guess that you'll just have to wait for the results later this week. If it turns out not to be a HCAI, will there be an apology thread?

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Glad to see you back:)

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Hope your feeling better soon

And just for the blonde one :rolleyes: whats a HCAI?

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I will second that Emzy, welcome back John, hope you are back to your 'old' self soon! :D:D

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ooooh its a "healthcare associated infection"

Had to google it to find out though :D

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i'm glad you googled it Em, i didnt have a clue either


hope your better soon Jay

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How many times have you been told, Jaysay - when you go into hospital and you see "Alcoholic Handrub" mounted on the walls it's purpose is just that. If you insist on drinking the stuff you will get a hangover and you will not feel very well afterwards. So don't come on here complaining to us.

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may as well drink teh stuff because no sod uses it , i was in there last night and not one person that walked past used the stuff

well except me because i like how it makes your hands go cold lol

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I had blood tests taken whilst there on four occasions lettie:rolleyes:

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I'm not pc emzy I was just calling it Hospital Acquired Infection:rolleyes:

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Tealeaf, I even have one at home mate, and I do use them not for drinking I hasten to add:D

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Just because you have had blood tests done, does not mean that you actually have a HCAI. I would wait for your results before starting a scaremongering thread. There may be people on here awaiting hospital treatment who could be terrified now.

By the way, East Lancs Hospitals Infection rates have reduced far in excess of government targets. More people are being swabbed prior to elective operations and as per population, about a third are already carrying MRSA prior to any hospital treatment.

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i can understand people worring about picking up somthing in the new hospital because if i remember correctly it has had wards shut down on a couple of occasions at least for m.r.s.a

unfortunatly its peoples ignorance that spread most diseases and not the fault of the hospital because they cant control peoples inability to follow very simple hygine insructions , nor can they make people give a damn about anyone but themselves

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I never Mentioned MRSA Lettie, I was attending a chest clinic in itself an hive of air born nasties, the thing is since February my health as been on a even keel, since I got rid of a Staph infection, which was very hard to diagnose and was resistant to penicillin. As I said I hadn't seen anybody from Sunday through to Thursday, my appointment was Tuesday, as an infection usually takes 2 days to manifest itself, The Royal was the only place I'd been to and people I saw where in that building, simples. I have no intention of scaring people but the fact is nasties rear their heads in hospital, I know I've had one before and they are a devil to get shut of

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That foyer entrance is so full of 'wildlife';) I think I would wear a hepa filter mask before I walked through it.

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I used MRSA as an example Jaysay. The hive of nasties floating around waiting rooms are not necessarily HCAIs. They could be anything from Chickenpox to the common cold. I think you'll find that many infections take significantly longer than 2 days to incubate. For example, Flu viruses can take 7 days at least.:)

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What is the definition of a HCAI?

If you catch flu or chicken pox while in a hospital waiting room is that a HCAI?

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Summat you can sue the hospital for getting.....

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I stands to reason that a place full of sick people will be full of infectious and contagious pathogens. Why do you think any different?

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Even more so when you get one:rolleyes:

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Wear a mask next time - they may well have sold out on ebay at the mo - but will be restocking ready for the next pandemic :rolleyes:

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Most of the masks people on the news were wearing a few weeks back were all but useless anyway.

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Re: NHS, Be afraid, be very afraid
i cant speak for Blackburn,but i have nothing but praise for the Blackpool vic,,,
ward 23,was spotless ,the nurses and staff washed their hands everytime they touched the patients,,

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There is nothing wrong with the staff at the Royal Blackburn GC, but there is with the management. Just one point whilst at the clinic for 2 hours last week I didn't see one member of staff wash hands or use gel once, although they weren't always in eye-shot, but when my community matron came to see me at home on Monday this week, she used gel on entering then washed her hands and used gel on leaving

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I hope you are feeling better soon Jaysay :)

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Glad you're feeling better.:)

They probably only sent you home because after so long, by law, they have to give you a bed bath, and those poor nurses probably couldn't face it.:D

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How can you say there is nothing wrong with the staff when you also said that you did not see any of them wash their hands? :confused:

I would be surprised if many of the staff use the gel at the entrance way as they enter and leave the building as well.

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Cheeky sod:D they'd all be craving after my body:D

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I'm not talking building to building Neil, its room to room, but its probably that little thing called a slight lapse in concentration, when I was on the ward in September hand Gel was used constantly, but in clinic maybe it just slips the mind a little

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But what about the female nurse?

:D

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It only takes a little lapse in concentration to kill yourself or someone else. 6 Months ago at our Londonish plant a contractor had a lapse of concentration, last thing I heard he was still in hospital trying to grow his skin back.

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Just can't win one wy you can I:D

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Well I thought I'd just drag this thread back up again. I have just started on my 5th course of antibiotics to try and get rid of this HCAI, I'm actually pulling my hair out, and I ain't got a lot to start with, I just can't get shut. the latest tests came back from the path lab and its seems this infection is called pseudomonas aeruginosa, the names enough to give me the heebie jeebies. The only problem is, if this latest course of tabs don't work, its plan "B", intravenous anti-bios, but in hospital:(:(:( John is a very, very unhappy bunny.

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John, this infection is extremely common......it can be present on the skin(even your own)......and is present in soil......it is an opportunistic organism, that means, when the good bacteria(the ones that live with you and cause you no harm at all) are killed off by antibiotic therapy(multiple antibiotic therapy in your case) these little blighters move in and occupy the places that have been vacated by your now dead 'good bacteria'.

I hope the planned treatment works and that they do not have to resort to plan B.

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I have actually spent an hour this aft reading up about it on line Margaret, its a little rascal of a thing which thrives on people with ongoing illnesses and people with low immune systems, I qualify on both counts hands down

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yes and it can even be in water....though one would hope, not the stuff that comes through the tap.
Like I say Jaysay, I hope the first line cephalosporins will see it off for you.