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The Telegraph is reporting guns found in raids in Somerset Grove Church, as part of a series of police actions. Oh dear.....how much longer before we get the drive-by shootings and people being gunned down as they order fish, chips and mushy peas in the local chippy?

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Here's a link http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/blackburn/

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Handguns seized in Blackburn and Hyndburn police swoops (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Try again sorry.:confused::confused:

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to avoid drive-by shootings simply move to a close , turning around is difficult and deters drive-by shooters :)

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Or the top floor of an appartment block.Its hard work running down the stairs when the lifts broke :D

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yet alone drive a car up there :D

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I expect nothing less in Church
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People who live in Church(Henry St area) don't regard it as part of Church.
It is in the middle of that estate that lies east of Dill Hall Lane and borders Accrington.

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used to live up that way when i was a kid, there was an incident on Somerset Grovet about 20 years ago where a man shot his mum...by accident

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Not supprised, I used to live round that area.

Doesnt mention what type of gun though it could just be a BB Gun, Air Pistol or even a fake.

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I dont think that it matters whether its a bb gun, air gun an ak47 or a water pistol, if it looks like a real gun, then that is what the owner intended it to look like, and nothing good would ever come of it, and punishment, if caught, should be in line with firearms offences for anything resembling a real gun.

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Of corse it makes a difference, even if it looked like a real gun if it was in his or her property and is legal then no law has been broken.

If it looks like a gun, its not down to the owner, its what the manufacturer intended it to look like.

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I agree ... and in Canada, if one uses a water pistol, for example, when robbing a place, then the crime is armed robbery; and the perp faces the same sentence as if he had used a glock. One of you guys should check it out and see if it is the same as over there.

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there has always been guns in accrington, well i remember them from when i was a teenager.

plus i was stabbed in the town center when i was 21...thats 11 years before all this rubbish about knife crime.

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What a patronising statement, so you think there will be no other parts of the borough where guns will be found? There are good and bad people living all over Hyndburn, maybe you will be shocked to find they even reside near you!!!

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well said Bernie

Neil your getting rather ignorant, wasnt it your 'town' that had a gun shop in it not long ago....the gun shop that MAYBE supplied these guns to people in Church....but then again i might have known it would be Ossy....

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Just heard a clip on the radio yesterday; someone in the U.S. had tried to hold up a store using a banana under his coat ... LOL, however, the sales assistant wasn't supposed to know that were they. Didn't even get chance to eat it before he was apprehended ... lucky he wasn't shot himself.

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The same rules apply over here as well,If it looks like a gun then it is.:uzi:
A butt and a barrel is classed as a gun whatever it is made of,or what it's original use was intended for.

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You leave Ossy alone, or I'll get you at playtime:D

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This flippant remark is just the sort of thing we have come to expect from the people of Ossy. Nevertheless, this is a serious development. While in the past there have been numerous instances of waccy-baccy factories being found in the borough and of small scale drug dealers being nicked, this is the first time guns have been found.

The formula as used by police is Drugs + Guns x Gangs = Turf Wars. That is what goes on in parts of Merseyside, south Manchester and bits of inner London. So far in North East Lancs we have been spared the sight of children being gunned down as they cycle home and of no-go areas where people will not venture, but I think we may not now be far away.

Anyway, if I'm approached with an offer to buy some white substance, I shall direct the seller to head south, through Church traffic lights, where he will no doubt get a friendly reception.

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I don't like Church, most of the areas of Church I have been too are grotty and most of the people I have met from Church are unpleasant. If course there are always exceptions to that statement.

It was a shop that sold airguns which happen to be perfectly legal to own and use. I would not have a problem if there was a shop in Ossy that sold firearms as I don't have a problem with guns. I don't think the Government should ever have banned hand guns either. There is nothing wrong with guns just as there is nothing wrong with knives. It is how you use them that causes problems.

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I do humbly apologise, I thought that digs at Church would be ok with you seeing as you always find any excuse to do the same about Oswaldtwistle :p:D

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your getting rather narrow minded in your old age Neil

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there has been a lot of improvements done in church , not long ago they demolished a large area of church and once the rest has been done the improvements will be complete

joking:D

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:rolleyes:

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You spoilt it the the joking comment :rolleyes:

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because it wouldnt be complete

it would need fumigating after demolition

happy now ? :D

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and you've always lived in decent areas have you accyman??? i seem to recall you havent

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Well he did live in Ossy for a while so he lived somewhere decent at least once :p:D

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iv lived in every part of accington ,some better than others some a lot worse than others but where i alone decide to live dosnt dictate wether or not the area is a crap hole or not , unless its true that when i move onto a street house prices drop %20 :D

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to be honest i had more trouble with teenage knob heads in ossy than when i lived up the belfield road area which is supposed to be a rougher area :)

ossy seemed to have more gangs of kids wandering around vandalising things than what i ever saw up by the belfield road area

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Not sure house prices drop but people start locking up their young daughters :p:D

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exactly

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lol how melodramatic, they founds some guns, doesnt say what they where. i bought a 9mm semi automatic blank firing pistol from accrington market when i was 17 so guns have been around for a long long time.

why do we have to make out that things are so bad and we are spiralling into oblivion.

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Ive been told from one of the girls arrested that the gun found on Sommerset Grove is a BB Gun.

I guess we will have to wait till it goes to court to see if it was.

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Neil -As one of the ward councillors for Church. I find your remarks about Church and the people who live in Church extremely patronising.

I know one person who lives in Oswaldtwisle who many people consider to be a very unpleasant person.

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If Church is such a wonderful place to live why do you not live there?

I was actually only poking fun at another AccyWebber. Next time you take a walk around certain areas of Church try opening your eyes to the state of the properties. If you are knocking on doors you much see some eye opening sites.

I do understand as ward Councillor you can't give an honest opinion of some of the residents. If we bump into each other sometime ask me about my recent visit to Church - I won't tell the story on here.

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Exactly, but a headline "police raid finds BB gun" doesnt sound as good.

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I do see the problems in Church ward as I walk round - but in some areas of Church it is very difficult to solve the problems because of factors which are outside the remit of HBC. Some of the problems could be addressed by HBC but the ruling group don't have any interest in solving them because there aren't any votes in it for them. Also it would mean admitting the scale of the problems of empty properties in the borough and the unwillingness of some landlords to keep their properties in a decent condition. They seem afraid to take certain landlords to court - these landlords are causing problems in several different wards.

It also doesn't help that because there is now no Area Council for Church (and Milnshaw) the Area Council caretaker will be withdrawn and there will be no revenue funding to help the resident's group.

Regarding the residents, I think that any criticism of them, that you might have could be equally applied to residents in any ward of the borough.

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That is very true. HBC need to pull there finger out and sort out the issues of not only landlords but also house owners and business premises owners that do not keep up the condition of their property.

Will that be addresses by the neighbourhood management teams or whatever is taking over

That is also true. We even have a few undesirables living in Ossy :rolleyes:

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heres a link to help your relieve teh problem

A guide on where to buy property abroad - Times Online

happy house hunting mate :D

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my 7 year old daughter and here friends found a gun with bullets in , in a field up ferngore , one of her friend dad took it to the police station , i was so scared for my child , but they did the right thing , they didn,t touch it , they came and told us , im so proud of them , the police did even come up and check the field for anything else , which i think they should of