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entwisi 21-05-2009 12:15

brushes with Infamy
 
just found about this

Barclays IT director jailed for downloading hundreds of child porn images to company laptop | Mail Online

now last May i was in Madrid on business drinking and eating tapas with this bloke... :eek: TBH he came across as a generally decent bloke, just goes to show you can never tell from the outside whats in someones mind.

so the question is how close to infamy have you been?

Less 21-05-2009 14:15

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 715526)
just found about this

Barclays IT director jailed for downloading hundreds of child porn images to company laptop | Mail Online

now last May i was in Madrid on business drinking and eating tapas with this bloke... :eek: TBH he came across as a generally decent bloke, just goes to show you can never tell from the outside whats in someones mind.

so the question is how close to infamy have you been?

I've met you on several occasions, does that count?

Or are you really as harmless as I presumed, (and hoped)?

:)

Studio25 21-05-2009 14:22

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I've met Roy Hattersley and been within earshot of Jasper Carrot - both really unpleasant at the time (but they might each have been having a bad day).

Midge Ure, Kevin Keegan & David Seaman are all really decent people, though (but they might each have been having a really good day ;) )


(Not very infamous, I know)

shillelagh 21-05-2009 14:41

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the pic was took in 2005 and he shook my hand next ...

entwisi 21-05-2009 14:50

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I was hoping more towards famous because they were naughty ( OK you get TB as one! )


Less, Harmless? not sure if that should be a compliment or an insult! :D

MargaretR 21-05-2009 15:00

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Most of us have met people who have infamy potential - they just haven't been exposed - YET

Less 21-05-2009 15:09

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 715562)
Less, Harmless? not sure if that should be a compliment or an insult! :D

If kids are involved, I really hope you're harmless, we all should continue to be wary, but please take it as a compliment, I think you would, could, are, maybe, should be, along with most blokes trustworthy, I just hope we can prevent the others from their hobbies!


:o

emamum 21-05-2009 15:15

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i was friends with a woman that murdered her husband a few years ago. i put her drunk into a taxi (her not me, i was pregnant with ty) and she went home and stabbed him...

andrewb 21-05-2009 15:41

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http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...98_1131060.jpg
:D

Mancie 21-05-2009 15:47

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 715571)

Oh no, no, no, no!...please tell me the kid is not who I think it is! :eek:

Less 21-05-2009 16:03

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715572)
Oh no, no, no, no!...please tell me the kid is not who I think it is! :eek:

We have to acknowledge the fact, it is John Major meeting yet another of his illegitimate brood for the first time!

:rolleyes:

jaysay 21-05-2009 16:03

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715572)
Oh no, no, no, no!...please tell me the kid is not who I think it is! :eek:

It sure looks like it Mancie:D I have one too,but I'm just a little older in mine:D

andrewb 21-05-2009 16:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 715572)
Oh no, no, no, no!...please tell me the kid is not who I think it is! :eek:

It is indeed!

Eric 21-05-2009 17:59

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I sold cattle to Colin Thatcher ... if that counts.

MargaretR 21-05-2009 18:21

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 715571)

Oooh Kaaayy - so where did he leave the mark of the beast?:)

West Ender 21-05-2009 20:30

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In my lifetime I've known quite a few people who subsequently were exposed as, or became, villains. I worked with 2 people, at different times, who went to prison for fraud and a chap who lived near me in Coventry in the 60s, a very respectable sort, was convicted for bigamy. I don't think I've met any well known baddies though.

garinda 21-05-2009 22:31

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There's been quite a few, but one I remember thinking at the time was odd was chatting to a very unassuming charity worker at a dinner party. He happened to be John Profumo, the man who brought down the government, which subsequently changed the landscape of the decade that I was born into.

Some of the others were sitting directly opposite and chatting to Margaret Thatcher, upstairs in a private dining room at the Carlton Club.

Deciding I wasn't going to attend a lunch party my housemate was giving to try and flog his new paintings, because I was too hungover, only to be woken by Lord Montagu of Beaulieu and the actor Alan Bates, who decided to sit on the bed chatting to me, once they'd roused me from my groggy slumber.

Getting drunk in Kensington Palace, because someone forgot to tell me that the person I was supposed to be seeing had gone to inspect the fire damage at Windsor Castle instead, leaving me sat there with a constantly refreshed gin and tonic.

Getting picked up in the Armani shop in Milan by one of the world's most famous living artists.

Meeting two people, Mike Tyson and Enoch Powell, both of whom I expected to dislike, and finding them thoroughly charming.

Chatting to Kylie Minogue at an aftershow party at Teatro, and tapping her too hard, resulting in her falling off the sofa we were sat on.

Getting locked in an attic bathroom at a houseparty in Battersea for over an hour, because of a dodgy lock, with one of the Queen's children.

Spending a weird evening with Naomi Campbell, when she modelled for my friend Julien, some of which it would be unwise to say what really happened, which ended with us sharing a cab back to London from Greenwich, after she'd pushed us to the front of the queue and caused a big fight.

There are other more, err, intimate encounters with the infamous/famous, but I'm not about to publish them on a local forum. They can be revealed after all the people involved are long dead.

:D

garinda 21-05-2009 22:39

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Just rereading my post some aren't really encounters with people of infamy, but I could justify them all if I brought in the Belgrano, or being arrested for immoral purposes in the 1950's, or hitting your maid with a hairdryer and being made to sweep the streets on New York.

I could infact defame all those I listed.:D

Mancie 21-05-2009 22:57

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715655)
There's been quite a few, but one I remember thinking at the time was odd was chatting to a very unassuming charity worker at a dinner party. He happened to be John Profumo, the man who brought down the government, which subsequently changed the landscape of the decade that I was born into.

Some of the others were sitting directly opposite and chatting to Margaret Thatcher, upstairs in a private dining room at the Carlton Club.

Deciding I wasn't going to attend a lunch party my housemate was giving to try and flog his new paintings, because I was too hungover, only to be woken by Lord Montagu of Beaulieu and the actor Alan Bates, who decided to sit on the bed chatting to me, once they'd roused me from my groggy slumber.

Getting drunk in Kensington Palace, because someone forgot to tell me that the person I was supposed to be seeing had gone to inspect the fire damage at Windsor Castle instead, leaving me sat there with a constantly refreshed gin and tonic.

Getting picked up in the Armani shop in Milan by one of the world's most famous living artists.

Meeting two people, Mike Tyson and Enoch Powell, both of whom I expected to dislike, and finding them thoroughly charming.

Chatting to Kylie Minogue at an aftershow party at Teatro, and tapping her too hard, resulting in her falling off the sofa we were sat on.

Getting locked in an attic bathroom at a houseparty in Battersea for over an hour, because of a dodgy lock, with one of the Queen's children.

Spending a weird evening with Naomi Campbell, when she modelled for my friend Julien, some of which it would be unwise to say what really happened, which ended with us sharing a cab back to London from Greenwich, after she'd pushed us to the front of the queue and caused a big fight.

There are other more, err, intimate encounters with the infamous/famous, but I'm not about to publish them on a local forum. They can be revealed after all the people involved are long dead.

:D

:eek:...bye eck! ..I can't wait for the book! :D

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:00

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That is exactly what I inferred when I said -
"Most of us have met people who have infamy potential - they just haven't been exposed - YET"

We are living in an era where greed and corruption is the norm.
The whistleblowers are gaining courage - there are more shocks to come and it will eventually end when good people find out - it is happening :)

garinda 21-05-2009 23:03

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715664)
That is exactly what I inferred when I said -
"Most of us have met people who have infamy potential - they just haven't been exposed - YET"

Don't forget that the very best fraudsters, abusers, charlatans, whatevers, don't ever get caught.

No public outcry, no shaming, no infamy.

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:07

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715665)
Don't forget that the very best fraudsters, abusers, charlatans, whatevers, don't ever get caught.

No public outcry, no shaming, no infamy.

These corrupt times are rapidly coming to an end.
There has been a raising of public awareness beyond their control.

accyman 21-05-2009 23:07

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i once saw a photographer drop a high powered flash in a tunnel in france and passed it back to him

moments later there was a big car accident of some sort involving somone famous :confused:

garinda 21-05-2009 23:18

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715668)
These corrupt times are rapidly coming to an end.


Yes Cassandra, but have you any concrete evidence of this forthcoming new Utopia, for those Doubting Thomases that may be amongst us?

:D

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:22

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715673)
Yes Cassandra, but have you any concrete evidence of this forthcoming new Utopia, for those Doubting Thomases that may be amongst us?

:D

If you take the trouble to search you can find evidence of corruption on a large scale.
Most people don't want to know - and only believe it when they accidentally are slapped in the face with it.

Do you own muck searching. I am having a rest from it at the mo

garinda 21-05-2009 23:29

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715675)
If you take the trouble to search you can find evidence of corruption on a large scale.
Most people don't want to know - and only believe it when they accidentally are slapped in the face with it.

Do you own muck searching. I am having a rest from it at the mo

I wasn't having a go actually, but hey ho. I was one of the few people who posted in your defence when some members recently, and unfairly in my opinion, were on your case.

I do a lot of research, or muck searching as you put it, but we both come to differing opinions. My own being the opinions of a realist, and I suppose someone who sees the glass of life and humankind being definitely half full, rather than half empty.

Hey ho.

:)

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715678)
I wasn't having a go actually, but hey ho. I was one of the few people who posted in your defence when some members recently, and unfairly in my opinion, were on your case.

I do a lot of research, or muck searching as you put it, but we both come to differing opinions. My own being the opinions of a realist, and I suppose someone who sees the glass of life and humankind being definitely half full, rather than half empty.

Hey ho.

:)

The fact that you have said that you are well aware of lots of corruption and prefer to stay silent, demonstrates to me that you have lost your integrity.
Whistleblowing is the new black - or are you no longer au fait with the new trends?:D

PS I appreciate that you thought that you were fighting my corner - but I am not in one

garinda 21-05-2009 23:36

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715680)
The fact that you have said that you are well aware of lots of corruption and prefer to stay silent, demonstrates to me that you have lost your integrity.


Did I use invisible ink to post that?

I'd be very interested to see a quote showing that I did.

I wait with bated breath.

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:41

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"I could infact defame all those I listed"

garinda 21-05-2009 23:41

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715680)
PS I appreciate that you thought that you were fighting my corner - but I am not in one

I never said you were in a corner.

You were obviously affected, because you posted you were leaving the forum.

It was nothing personal, I'd have defended anyone against what I saw as unfair bullying.

I've never been one to be silent, be it the fashionable thing to do at the present time, or not.;)

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:46

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715685)
I never said you were in a corner.

You were obviously affected, because you posted you were leaving the forum.

It was nothing personal, I'd have defended anyone against what I saw as unfair bullying.

I've never been one to be silent, be it the fashionable thing to do at the present time, or not.;)

I lost patience briefly - at no time did I experience anger - I no longer feel the need for such destructive emotion

garinda 21-05-2009 23:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715684)
"I could infact defame all those I listed"


The 'famous' people I happened to mention in my original post.

Nothing about being 'well aware of lots corruption, and preferring to remain silent'.

Blimey the mind of a conspiracy theorist is unfathobable, and invents it's own bizarre facts that aren't there, at least not apparent to those of a rational mind.

If that's evidence of research I'd label it very sloppy, if not verging on the slanderous.

MargaretR 21-05-2009 23:50

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715687)
The 'famous' people I happened to mention in my original post.

Nothing about being 'well aware of lots corruption, and preferring to remain silent'.

Blimey the mind of a conspiracy theorist is unfathobable, and invents it's own bizarre facts that aren't there, at least not apparent to those of a rational mind.

If that's evidence of research I'd label it very sloppy, if not verging on the slanderous.

Do you have a different definition of defamity from most people:confused:

garinda 21-05-2009 23:51

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715686)
I lost patience briefly - at no time did I experience anger - I no longer feel the need for such destructive emotion

Good.:)

I think your imput on this forum is much needed, considering the dross that has meant many other interesting members have disappeared.

garinda 22-05-2009 00:00

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 715688)
Do you have a different definition of defamity from most people:confused:

Defame, to harm the reputation of someone by libel or slander, to disgrace.

I was merely pointing out that not all the people I mentioned in my original post are primarily considered infamous, but that I could justify all those mentioned as being such because of what I know.

I was just trying to illustrate that I wasn't 'showing off' about having known a lot of well known people, but those I mentioned were my brushes with infamy, which is what the thead was about.

Mick 22-05-2009 04:31

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When i used to stand Accy market we had a guy that helped out now and again that used to knock about with the Kray Twins

steeljack 22-05-2009 05:37

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apart from meeting Idi Amin in the Sudan (1980) during his exodus from Uganda into exile in Saudi Arabia don't think I have met anyone who could really be described as infamous (nasty) . Have buddy in Austria and he keeps a photo of this Dad on the mantlepiece in his Waffen SS uniform from the early 40s , only met the chap once (now passed on) , when asked about his missing fingers , he just replied with a shrug 'Stalingrad' , a really nice gentleman , made great Obstler (Schnapps) . Also once worked/alongside with a chap who had been part of the German occupation force in the Channel islands , he was a nice chap as well ....:confused: :confused:

Studio25 25-05-2009 19:41

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 715656)
Just rereading my post some aren't really encounters with people of infamy, but I could justify them all if I brought in the Belgrano, or being arrested for immoral purposes in the 1950's, or hitting your maid with a hairdryer and being made to sweep the streets on New York.

I could infact defame all those I listed.:D

I could defame all those you listed. Defamations are unfounded.

garinda 25-05-2009 19:47

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 716482)
I could defame all those you listed. Defamations are unfounded.

You obviously haven't witnessed how Mrs. Thatcher eats peas.;)

Nothing's unfounded if it is what you actually saw.:)

cashman 25-05-2009 22:01

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met n had a pint with Ronnie Knight one xmas in benalmadena when i lived there, he was on the trot at the time. seemed n ok geezer to me, but barbara windsor probably would not agree.:D

beechy 26-05-2009 05:28

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 716507)
met n had a pint with Ronnie Knight one xmas in benalmadena when i lived there, he was on the trot at the time. seemed n ok geezer to me, but barbara windsor probably would not agree.:D

me and my mate bully had a fun packed night in the midland hotel with Gary Glitter in the early eighties he had just been made bankrupt and was cadging drinks all night,long before the other scandals be fell him :eek:

accyman 27-05-2009 09:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick (Post 715724)
When i used to stand Accy market we had a guy that helped out now and again that used to knock about with the Kray Twins

was he an ex prison guard :D

accyman 27-05-2009 09:49

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Originally Posted by beechy (Post 716528)
me and my mate bully had a fun packed night in the midland hotel with Gary Glitter in the early eighties he had just been made bankrupt and was cadging drinks all night,long before the other scandals be fell him :eek:

yeah i heard he resorted to borrowing sweets off children as well teh sick swine :eek:


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