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Just heard that the poison dwarf, Hazel Blears is the latest to jump ship. This is one of those wonderful historical moments as we see a government collapse. The question though, is exactly when will Brown announce his resignation? No doubt the men in grey suits are already on their way to Downing Street but as our PM lives in his own world of make believe we cannot anticipate a rational course of action from him. So which politico's on here will stick their necks out and say when he will go, from today?

Put your name to the poll, if you dare.

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I see you haven't voted yet either, Tealeaf, what do you think? I suppose it depends a bit on how much of a hammering he gets tomorrow. I think it will be quite bad.

So I think he'll go - he probably won't make a rash decision on Friday but by the middle of next week the witch hunt will have hounded him into the ground.

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I'm with you Gayle....we finally have something in common!

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I think we've agreed in the past - perhaps once at least. :D

He might possibly decided to call an election for October though. In which case, I think he'd probably stay as leader to lose the election so that who ever takes over has a clean slate.

But I think he'll announce whatever he decides, some time next week.

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I was torn between next week and the week after. I went for next week. Labour could come 3rd or even 4th tomorrow. He has lost his authority to govern and ministers are fleeing the sinking ship. If we get a new Prime Minister he or she may well argue that they need time to put forward their vision, so an early election might not be on the cards.

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From the very little I know about politics, I think he'll hang on until the bitter end. Unless something comes up in the meantime about his own expense claims or something equally dodgy, he'll take his cue from his predecessor and hang on until the very last moment.

Let's face it, the only thing that will get him re-elected is if a) someone declares war on us and b) he handles it well.

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Yes o.k. all thing's have changed from pear shaped to squashy under foot, but, whatever is the alternative?

Lib dem's? Tory's? BNP?

Will we get a decent Government from the alternatives or just what we deserve?

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Well of course he'll try to hang on till the bitter end, just "getting the Job done" what the hell that means I've never managed to work out, seeing everything's been going tits up for eighteen months now. Can't really think that they'll sack him either, to elect another prime minister without an election is quite frankly taking the P out of the British public:(

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right i know polling day is tomorrow but with all the crap thats been flying about recently i still havent a clue who i'm going to vote for...should i vote at all...we fought for the right to vote i know, but with everything that has gone on recently why should we vote? i bet there is one hell of a loss in people voting tomorrow compared to the last big one we had

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is tony blair coming back i liked him bcause he at least had the decency to smile while he screwed us over

or do we have to break in a new crook

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If the cash controversy had been confined to just one party it might have made deciding who to vote for that bit easier. But as we have seen there have been representative from across the board feathering their nests. I'm really not sure who to vote for yet.

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exactly my point Bernie

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i reckon a lot of people will be thinking this tomorrow and will make some very rash decisions on who to vote for (possibly closing their eyes and placing the cross wherever), in my opinion its going to be a bad election nomatter what happens

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Go with your mind, surely there can't be room for many choices?
:hidewall:

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Cheeky git:p

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As Gordon said he wouldn't resign even for the sake of the party, I'm putting my money on him hanging on until 2010. But I think the general election will surely be called before then? I don't know... hmm...

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He is going to hang on till the end in the hope a Maggie Thatcher style miracle will happen to allow him to return on a high crest of a wave. :eek:

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If Gordon had any political savvy, he would have called a general election as soon as the economic crisis hit .... then he could happily have lost the election and have left the conservatives up fecal creek without a paddle.:rolleyes:

However, given the present mess, he might as well hold on to the bitter end (by the way, the origin of that phrase is quite interesting).

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The Telegraph has learned that the £13,000 that Miss Blears repaid voluntarily last month, in the wake of expenses disclosures about the sale of her flat in Kennington flat, south London, was to cover the sale proceeds of two of her designated 'second homes'.

A spokesman for Miss Blears confirmed that she had another previously sold property in Shad Thames, also in London, which she had designated as her second home for Commons allowances purposes, but which she had nominated as her main residence for capital gains tax purposes
Daily Telegraph 040609

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Is anybody surprised at the disclosures that are still coming to light? I for one am certainly not seeing as the consensus amongst certain MP's was to try and keep the truth under wraps till July. I think there will be more and more ridiculous claims come to light but all will be deemed to be "within the rules". Sorry it is a cop out for fraud as far as I am concerned and the sad thing is that these very people are still allowed to sit in parliment. It is a travesty of the trust put into these representatives IMHO:mad:

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Raises the question: "How many people actually do trust politicians"? Your first sentence seems to suggest "NO" ... :)

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Well no Eric after these disclosures I would be surprised if even the most ardent Labour/Tory or whatever party people support could say with all honesty that their trust was intact. The fact is they have been claiming ridiculous amounts of money but in their defence all they can come back with is "they weren't breaking any rules". Sorry but that doesn't wash with me and a lot of the electorate who are having to tighten their belts. As far as I'm concerned a lot of MP's (not all) are just extracting the urine because it was "within the rules". I wish the Freedom Of Information Act had come in sooner and then we might have had a full picture of how the country has been milked. But as it is most parties are implicated making it difficult to decide who to vote for as it seems a lot are there just for their own gain and sod the electorate:mad:

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Just a thought: can British MPs vote themselves salary increases as they do over here:confused: And, if they can and do, are those increases in line with what the peasants get:confused:

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a question for British voters .......when you go to the polls how are the ballot papers printed .......candidates name followed by Party ? , or Party followed by candidates name ?, and are the they jumbled up (in no alphabetical order , example here in California during a national ballot for say the US Senate the candidates are listed in a different order in my county than the next county , supposed to cut down on voter fraud ) .

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Unfortunately they do. There will be an end to that come the Christopher Kelly report later this year though.

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I think it's done alphabetically by party - I'll report back after I've been to cast my vote.

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ive been to the polling station this morning because i realy think you should use your vote,,,but i have deliberately spoiled my councill one.. in protest of the shady goings on
..but i HAVE voted in the big one

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I have voted. A choice of 13 parties for the Euro Election all listed alphabetical.
Then all the names of the candidates in that party listed underneath in the order that they would take a seat.

To try to explain - because it's proportional representation - each party fields a number of candidates and they can specify the order that they are listed in. Then when the votes are counted it is determined how many candidates from each party gets in - this is done proportionally so for example, if it is decided that three candidates are elected from the Green Party then the first three candidates on their list will get in.

I noticed that Nick Griffin was No. 1 candidate for the BNP.

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What shady goings on are happening at your Council?

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i am talking about the general shady goings on,,,i have always voted labour ,but i have never ever been so dismayed,,,all the counsellors and M P s need a kick up the backside

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i watched have i got news for you the other day and ian hislop made a very interesting coment about the expenses fiasco

he read all the political parties manafestos and said that not one of them had " to be more honest in them "

teh host then said how polotitions were dealing with it was odd as well

he said the expenses fiasco was like having a swimming pool full of pee

no one was saying they peed in the pool but were saying this pool is full of pee therefore the swimming pool is a bad idea

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from reading various news reports it seems Gordon Browns Labour colleagues are now auditioning for roles in a new production of Julius Ceasar and the women Labour MPs trying for roles in Macbeth .

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this is becoming to be known as the blairs witches project lol

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tearleaf is a Nazi..and so he has his glory for the day.

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Well I've been predicting Tuesday for a number of days.. I wonder if he will cling on or not!

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Judging by a photo in the press this morning he ain't got that much to hang on with, he's bitten his fingernails that much they're bleeding:rolleyes:

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Could hang on with his ego and arrogance. :D

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He doesn't think he's arrogant! He must have declared he wasn't arrogant about 6 times in his speech yesterday and in answer to every question!

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I bite my nails when I am under a lot of pressure too. :p

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Andrew he is a Fifer and its in his genetic makeup topped up with the way they are brought up. Fifers say they come from the kingdom of Fife and as the Fifer in a very high position in our country he must consider himself the King of Fife. :p

If he is not arrogant then the moon is made of cheese the oceans are as sweet as honey and pigs soar with the ease and grace of an eagle. :D

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You have to be a bit arrogant to get anywhere. Nobody gets to the top by being modest. Modest people get trampled on.

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Very true but there is a limit to how much people will take.

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There is no need for arrogance, if you have self belief you will get by beter than talking down to people:)

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Gordon Brown is a scapegoat for the rest of the party's failings. I feel quite sorry for him, as he is a very talented man and I do genuinely feel he tried quite hard to please people. Sadly he doesn't want to accept he failed, and it is probably because he can't quite grasp where he has gone wrong and the way people are suddenly turning against him...

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So in a way he was a bit blinkered and is caught in a box thinking in the box while others are outside the aforementioned box and thinking outside it. He tries to please all but that is nigh on impossible. Lets hope he learns from this and takes it on the chin.

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If you had ever met him you would know his politics are a lot further to the right of the Nazi party.

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Many are calling for Brown's head but who would be his replacement ?...maybe it's more about some people wanting to replace the whole Government by a Gerneral Election.

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nah just that cack mouthed moron and his badger eyebrowed buddy will do for now

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Then you end up with the man of Straw or Hapless Harriet:D

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could devise a time machine of some sort and assist guy fawks and stop all of this trouble at its roots

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you could argue that cameron won't go for his blood because he is going to be a much easier target than a new leader would be... :D

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Good plan ... Guy was the only man ever to enter parliament with honest intentions.

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Goes to show honesty dosnt pay. :rolleyes:

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Well not in the Palace of Westminster Spugs:D