Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 718982)

Benefit cheats can be fined, or imprisoned, it infuriates me that mp's are not only brought to book, but often get put in another highly paid position, or retired on a fortune of a pension!

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 718915)

heres a new angle on benefit cheats it would be funny if it wasnt so serious:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 719016)

It also infuriates me that the people that employ 'benefit cheats' never seem to be prosecuted, the person tempted to work for very little money to keep his/her family together get the full force of the law, the person employing them, moves on and offers the same deal to someone else, still evading taxes!

Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 719032)

I remember this conversation, and it really is bad that they don't get prosecuted too!

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719033)

Those that claimed for mortgage payments that had been paid off and other such things should be prosecuted.

Those "within the rules" should not IMHO

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 719051)

Just reading on Ceefax Neil that MPs are unlikely to face criminal charges according to the MET, Think I'll rob a bank tomorrow but I'll do it within the rules:D

Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 719139)

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719033)

Those that claimed for mortgage payments that had been paid off and other such things should be prosecuted.

Those "within the rules" should not IMHO

Originally Posted by AccyLass28 (Post 719231)

I remember this conversation, and it really is bad that they don't get prosecuted too!



Sorry Neil, this was in reference to Less's comment on the people employing benefit cheats. They should be prosecuted too, not just the person on benefits

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 719776)

Benefit cheats tend to be liars as well, it's kind of part of their agenda. What makes you think they're going to be honest on their applications or to their employers and say 'I'm on benefits'

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 719814)

You've a lot to learn blazey, there are unscruplous bosses that will only employ people on benefits or illegal immigrants, cash in the hand for a days work, no holiday pay, national insurance no nothing, you only have to remember the Morecambe bay Cockling incident a few years ago, which was a prime example

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 719817)

I've actually worked cash in hand, but this is a different crime altogether. I got the impression that these people should be done for cheating the benefit system, not the tax system.

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 719825)

Benefit system, taxation blazey is cheating the tax payer whichever way you look at it

Originally Posted by blazey (Post 719828)

It depends on your views. Some people oppose the taxation system simply because they think everyone deserves to keep every penny of what they earned. The benefit system is taking money you haven't earned.

You'll find more people justify cheating tax than cheating the benefit system. It's like tv licensing in the other thread. People pay it but you get many who don't think that they should, and many don't. Most people don't kick up a fuss about them in the same way they do about benefit cheats though.

To be fair, I could justify a few people cheating both systems in a few circumstances, because I know a lot of statistics in this area from studying EU law, social policy and citizenship this year as part of my degree. It is the same with immigration, I could justify some and not others. And it is all very subjective.