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Neil 05-06-2009 12:54

LCC Election results
 
You can follow the results here Lancashire County Council: Elections
and here http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/lccele...9/bargraph.asp

They are coming in fast now.
Peter Britcliffe has just won the Oswaldtwistle seat

andrewb 05-06-2009 13:33

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Malcolm Prichard also won his seat it appears!

Neil 05-06-2009 13:45

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And Graham Jones won his seat http://www3.lancashire.gov.uk/lccele...103&p=p&py=LAB

emamum 05-06-2009 13:48

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719010)
And Graham Jones won his seat Lancashire County Council: Elections


a really good week for graham this week then :D

Neil 05-06-2009 13:51

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Originally Posted by emamum (Post 719011)
a really good week for graham this week then :D

Why what else has he done?

jaysay 05-06-2009 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719006)
You can follow the results here Lancashire County Council: Elections
and here Lancashire County Council: Elections

They are coming in fast now.
Peter Britcliffe has just won the Oswaldtwistle seat

As Dorothy said at the count seems the hanging baskets worked:D

grannyclaret 05-06-2009 14:31

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29 spoilt votes here,,so i wasent on my own

Neil 05-06-2009 14:45

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The Conservatives just took control of Lancashire County Council.

Nickelson 05-06-2009 14:52

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is it local council elections too ? does that mean we have a labour council now.

Neil 05-06-2009 14:53

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Originally Posted by Nickelson (Post 719028)
is it local council elections too ? does that mean we have a labour council now.

It is County Elections so we have a Troy County Council. We already have a Tory Borough Council

Neil 05-06-2009 14:55

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This is the link to the national results

BBC NEWS | Election 2009 | Council Map

Nickelson 05-06-2009 15:07

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Oh i thought these included the Borough council elections too.

Boeing Guy 05-06-2009 15:19

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Glad Jean Battle lost her seat. Bye bye Jean......
Would have been nice to have a Conservative candidate to choose from, hope Malcolm Pritchard, who I voted for, does us proud.

accyman 05-06-2009 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719030)
This is the link to the national results

BBC NEWS | Election 2009 | Council Map


theres somat wrong with the website it isnt showing any red pmsl


will the next crook in line please step forward


yes i know its only council votes but i think it shows what a general election would look like

jaysay 05-06-2009 16:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 719035)
Glad Jean Battle lost her seat. Bye bye Jean......
Would have been nice to have a Conservative candidate to choose from, hope Malcolm Pritchard, who I voted for, does us proud.

That result nearly gave me as much pleasure as Pete Britcliffe's result in Ossy:D

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 16:27

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Does anybody know how Stan Horne got on?

jaysay 05-06-2009 16:34

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 719055)
Does anybody know how Stan Horne got on?

Lost by about 60 votes Bernie, results are on the Telegraph Web Site

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 16:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 719058)
Lost by about 60 votes Bernie, results are on the Telegraph Web Site

Cheers Jaysay:)

Neil 05-06-2009 17:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 719055)
Does anybody know how Stan Horne got on?

here you go

Lancashire County Council: Elections

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 17:24

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719066)

Thanks Neil, the turnout was terrible there.

Margaret Pilkington 05-06-2009 17:38

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Bernie, I don't think that is surprising really.......with only two candidates from the main parties and the current expenses fiasco, I think that this is how some folk wanted to show their displeasure at the two main parties.......if an independent had been standing, I think they would have run off with the votes.

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 17:50

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Yep I know what you mean Margaret, seems a pretty abysmal turn out overall really. People are more than a bit disillusioned with the whole subject of expenses and how "no rules were broken", whilst they are struggling in the real world with price rises and such like.

Eric 05-06-2009 18:03

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 719071)
Yep I know what you mean Margaret, seems a pretty abysmal turn out overall really. People are more than a bit disillusioned with the whole subject of expenses and how "no rules were broken", whilst they are struggling in the real world with price rises and such like.

Turn out does look a tad on the low side. You'd think with all the scandal going on, and with people seeming to want to send a message to the central govt. more people would have voted ... or at least get out and do what Granny Claret did .... is there enough of a significant switch to the tories to cause Brown to think about quitting? How are the fringe parties and the independents doing?

Bernard Dawson 05-06-2009 18:04

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Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 719071)
Yep I know what you mean Margaret, seems a pretty abysmal turn out overall really. People are more than a bit disillusioned with the whole subject of expenses and how "no rules were broken", whilst they are struggling in the real world with price rises and such like.

Touching 40% turnout for a local election is not too bad. I was expecting it could be a lot lower, especially when you consider all that's been going on recently.

Eric 05-06-2009 18:07

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Just read in the Guardian that the BNP won an LCC seat in Padiham and Burnley West ... any reason for this in that particular area? Or are the BNP picking up votes and seats?

claytonender 05-06-2009 18:15

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I agree with Bernard - that the turnout was not too bad.

Labour retained the Great Harwood seat - Ciaran Wells won with a majority of 220.

I had the great honour of being Miles Parkinson's agent in Rishton and Clayton-le-Moors and he had a majority of 70 over Stan Horne.

Graham win in Accrington South was great he had a majority of 479.

Ciaran, Miles and Graham had all worked incredibly hard to win.

Although Labour have suffered heavy losses in other parts of the county - we still have 3 County Councillors in Hyndburn - who I know will work extremely hard for the people of their areas.

Peter won't now be able to blame county council for problems in the borough - I wonder who he will blame?

derekgas 05-06-2009 18:17

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I made a comment recently about bnp getting votes of people who didnt know exactly what thier policies are, except that they included controlling immigration, 3 people have admitted to me today that they voted for them, when I told them how extreme bnp are, all 3 had no idea. :rolleyes:

Neil 05-06-2009 18:20

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 719076)
I made a comment recently about bnp getting votes of people who didnt know exactly what thier policies are, except that they included controlling immigration, 3 people have admitted to me today that they voted for them, when I told them how extreme bnp are, all 3 had no idea. :rolleyes:

that is the problem with them, things sound ok till you dig a little deeper :eek:

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 18:22

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Was Graham not the councillor for another ward prior to yesterday?

Eric 05-06-2009 18:25

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 719076)
I made a comment recently about bnp getting votes of people who didnt know exactly what thier policies are, except that they included controlling immigration, 3 people have admitted to me today that they voted for them, when I told them how extreme bnp are, all 3 had no idea. :rolleyes:

That's a little scary ... seems to me, as an outside observer, that one good way to stop folks switching their support to ultra right wing parties would be for Brown to step down and call a general election. But from what I read in the British press and on the CBC website this is not likely to happen; he seems to be digging in his heels right up to his elbows ... there is obviously an unofficial vote of no confidence going on in his own party ... what is it, six cabinet members have already voted with their feet.:eek:

garinda 05-06-2009 18:26

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Originally Posted by claytonender (Post 719075)
Peter won't now be able to blame county council for problems in the borough - I wonder who he will blame?

The government.

Well at least for the next twelve months...at the longest.

Funniest tale I heard, from a family member, was a well known businessman was chased out of the polling station, because he still had his voting slip, and didn't vote for anyone because his preferred candidate was 'a (blank)in' Pak-i'.

It looks like the all this Tory caring/sharing/hug a hoody/embrace all colours, creeds and sexual orientation, hasn't quite trickled down to grass roots level yet.

Bernard Dawson 05-06-2009 18:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 719078)
Was Graham not the councillor for another ward prior to yesterday?

Graham is a local Councillor in Peel Ward. The County seat which he has just won includes Peel,but also Barnfield and Baxenden.

BERNADETTE 05-06-2009 18:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 719082)
Graham is a local Councillor in Peel Ward. The County seat which he has just won includes Peel,but also Barnfield and Baxenden.

Thanks for explaining:)

lindsay ormerod 05-06-2009 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719012)
Why what else has he done?

Became a dad again!
A baby daughter .:D

Lilly 05-06-2009 20:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 719026)
The Conservatives just took control of Lancashire County Council.

I'm really pleased at that, especially that we now have Peter Britcliffe for Oswaldtwistle. :mosher:
A good day nationally for the Conservatives. :D

Ossywarrior 05-06-2009 20:21

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cant belive peter britcliffe has won, the guy is a tool

Margaret Pilkington 05-06-2009 20:26

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 719072)
Turn out does look a tad on the low side. You'd think with all the scandal going on, and with people seeming to want to send a message to the central govt. more people would have voted ... or at least get out and do what Granny Claret did .... is there enough of a significant switch to the tories to cause Brown to think about quitting? How are the fringe parties and the independents doing?


You can't really get that message across very well unless there are more than the three parties to vote for.......we had just a conservative and a labour candidate to vote for....... a vote for either of those doesn't really register as a protest........if there had been an independent candidate or perhaps a green party candidate then there may have been a bigger turnout and folk may have cast their vote for someone other than labour, conservative or lib dems........so this being the case, many people have stayed away and not voted for anyone.

Lilly 05-06-2009 20:40

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Originally Posted by Ossywarrior (Post 719099)
cant belive peter britcliffe has won, the guy is a tool

When a job needs doing I find that tools come in very handy. :D:D

Ossywarrior 05-06-2009 20:43

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Originally Posted by Lilly (Post 719101)
When a job needs doing I find that tools come in very handy. :D:D


lol

Margaret Pilkington 05-06-2009 20:48

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I guess a spoon is a tool....of sorts.

nortype 05-06-2009 21:39

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well put lilly time long over due labour kicked into touch i.e. expenses and every thing they done. brought our country to it's knee's and still not got sense to go.

Neil 05-06-2009 21:47

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod (Post 719094)
Became a dad again!
A baby daughter .:D

Congrats to you Graham, you must be mad as kids are evil.
I hope baby and Mum are both well.

Eric 06-06-2009 04:07

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Listening to CBC radio tonight, a show called As It Happens ... they had a phone interview with Tony Benn ... one thing he said about governments that I found myself agreeing with, is that the two heavyweight parties over there are acting more like managers than representatives .... thought about it for a while, and I tend to agree with his statement ... or at least with how I interpreted it ... and the same applies to our govt. too. The mess that Brown finds himself in made the CBC national news, just behind an item on the sixty fifth anniversary of D-Day.

mani 06-06-2009 04:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 719076)
I made a comment recently about bnp getting votes of people who didnt know exactly what thier policies are, except that they included controlling immigration, 3 people have admitted to me today that they voted for them, when I told them how extreme bnp are, all 3 had no idea. :rolleyes:

the thing is the bnp can make all the promises they want as they know they're far away from getting into power. once they start gaining that power people will only realise then just how right wing they really are.

like i didnt actually know till recently but if your not english white you cant become a member of the party. if your girlfriend is spanish or has heritage of non-english you will be coaxed/asked to leave the party. if your flat mate isnt white english you will be asked to leave the party.

not many people are aware just how right wing the bnp is from its roots

Mancie 06-06-2009 04:34

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Tony Benn's sentiments mean nothing these days..and never have...he's argument against right wing toryism and facists fall on deaf ears when the price of milk goes up.
Tony may be a blast from the past and judging by the way this electorate are feeling he will be dead well before we have any socialist government here... R.I.P to Labour..let the Tory dogs out!:eek:

Eric 06-06-2009 04:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 719182)
Tony Benn's sentiments mean nothing these days..and never have...he's argument against right wing toryism and facists fall on deaf ears when the price of milk goes up.
Tony may be a blast from the past and judging by the way this electorate are feeling he will be dead well before we have any socialist government here... R.I.P to Labour..let the Tory dogs out!:eek:

I'm familiar with Benn's sentiments ... but what struck me was that one comment .... I think that he is right ... if I interpret it correctly ... that govt. should represent us .... not control us, or, in the case of many govts., try to "protect us", to usurp our common sense. Some on here have mentioned on occasion the "nanny state" .... and I think I could apply Benn's statement to this type of governing ...

blazey 06-06-2009 18:19

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Eep!

Eric 10-06-2009 17:37

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I know it's a little off topic as it is not really LCC elections, but yesterday (June 9) the voters in Nova Scotia elected their first NDP (Labour) govt. ever ... and the tories ended up in third place after the Liberals. I realize that for most of you, and for most people who don't live in Nova Scotia, that this is not really all that important. But is does seem to indicate that voters over here, unlike their counterparts in Europe are not moving to the right ... strange what's happening over there .... shall have to do some serious reading about the EU and modern British politics.

andrewb 10-06-2009 21:18

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The old LCC red rose that looks like the Labour party emblem is to be phased out and replaced with a traditional one.

http://conservativehome.blogs.com/.a...0eed1b9970b-pi
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/.a...0eed284970b-pi

katex 10-06-2009 21:45

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You forgot to mention was a churlish decision by the new conservative members Andrew .... costing us money in amending websites, stationery, signposts, etc., mmmm where have I heard all this before ? Looks like Cllr Britcliffe is starting to stamp his madness already.

cashman 10-06-2009 21:55

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Originally Posted by katex (Post 720455)
You forgot to mention was a churlish decision by the new conservative members Andrew .... costing us money in amending websites, stationery, signposts, etc., mmmm where have I heard all this before ? Looks like Cllr Britcliffe is starting to stamp his madness already.

why do i think yer spot on kate.:rolleyes:

Loz 10-06-2009 22:08

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What a waste of time and money,at the end of the day a red rose is a red rose no matter how you try and make it look!
We are the red rose county afterall,ridiculous!

accyman 10-06-2009 22:16

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bucket loads of our money spent on somones vendetta against the labour party and anything that could be seen as relating to the labour party

thats how it looks to me anyway

how about no flower or any picture i think the wording "lancashire" kinda tells us that its a lancashire van, i for one dont need a picture image to help me figure it out

katex 10-06-2009 22:18

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Just missing the thorns though. Gonna' be a lot of them I suspect... :rolleyes:

cashman 10-06-2009 22:19

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Originally Posted by Loz (Post 720462)
What a waste of time and money,at the end of the day a red rose is a red rose no matter how you try and make it look!
We are the red rose county afterall,ridiculous!

agree totally Loz, though AndrewB never said if it was a good or bad thing, reckon he's learning how to be a real political animal.:D;)

andrewb 10-06-2009 22:24

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You got me cashman ;)

They said they're phasing it out as to not cost taxpayers money, rather than just swapping. Allegedly!

katex 10-06-2009 22:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 720470)
You got me cashman ;)

They said they're phasing it out as to not cost taxpayers money, rather than just swapping. Allegedly!

Just the same excuse as before Andrew .. phasing out ! Could take 4 years, then elections again... :D

Not a good start for them.

cashman 10-06-2009 22:40

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Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 720470)
You got me cashman ;)

They said they're phasing it out as to not cost taxpayers money, rather than just swapping. Allegedly!

make yer mind up ya said replacing with a traditional one.:D

Eric 11-06-2009 02:16

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 720475)
make yer mind up ya said replacing with a traditional one.:D

He doesn't seem to have a mind, merely a prejudice. In one of his posts, he suggested that the swing to the far right represents a rejection of Labour ... I just don't see this as possible. When the electorate rejects a social democratic party, it moves to the right, which, in the case of Britain, would be the Conservative Party. They don't flee to the nutbar fringe ...

andrewb 11-06-2009 07:19

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 720490)
He doesn't seem to have a mind, merely a prejudice. In one of his posts, he suggested that the swing to the far right represents a rejection of Labour ... I just don't see this as possible. When the electorate rejects a social democratic party, it moves to the right, which, in the case of Britain, would be the Conservative Party. They don't flee to the nutbar fringe ...

Some of those voters that will never vote Conservative can and do move to the BNP as they have left wing policies. It's not just me who has this view, it was said by countless people including Labour politicians and BBC presenters.

A poll conducted by YouGov said:
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59 per cent of BNP voters think that Labour "used to care about the concerns of people like me but doesn’t nowadays".
and

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In the country at large, professional workers outnumber manual workers by 20 per cent to 18 per cent. Among BNP voters the pattern is very different: 36 per cent manual workers, 11 per cent professionals.
The working class of course were the people the Labour party claimed to stand up for.

You're not wrong in what you say, people are leaving Labour to support the Conservatives at the next general election. However some of them are going to the BNP too or simply not voting, which has allowed them to get the MEP's.
And Cashman.. I said phased in my first post. :p

Neil 11-06-2009 07:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 720455)
mmmm where have I heard all this before ?

I see HBC are phasing the replacements. Lots of vehicles have the old signage and only the new vehicles have the new paint jobs. I remember not long ago people moaning about the cost of repainting all the vehicles :rolleyes:

cashman 11-06-2009 08:40

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Don't omit to mention Andrewb, some Conservative voters also switched to B.N.P. not just labour voters, hardly surprising as back in the mists of time the torys secretly funded the "Blackshirts":rolleyes: plus i think its very condescending to say some of them going to BNP as allowed them to get Euro MPs, again hardly surprising from someone with your mentality.:tongueout

Tealeaf 11-06-2009 14:21

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I see from yesterday's Telegraph that the new County Council leader refers to the rose as the 'Tudor Rose'. What an idiot! The Red Rose is the rose of the House of Lancaster. The Tudor Rose came about after the accession of Henry Tudor and combined the red with the white Yorkshire rose as a gesture to unite the previously warring elements and became the rose of England - but I don't need to tell you lot that, do I?

Someone, though, needs to have a word in this fool Driver's ear, because if we're going to start sticking a Tudor rose on the LCC letterhead instead of the Lancashire Rose we are going to look a complete bunch of plonkers.

Gayle 11-06-2009 15:17

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I just loved what the new leader said

"Unlike Labour, we do not think the people of Lancashire care about logos, but they do care about our services.”

Erm, hang on a minute, you've been in office for 10 minutes and the first thing that you've done is change the logo - who's more bothered about logos? :D


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