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jaysay

18-06-2009 11:19

Legal History

Legal history has been made with the court of appeal ruling that for the first time in Englandand and Wales a trial can be held without a jury. Its the case of 4 men accused of an Armed Robbery at Heathrow Airport. The judge said there was a significant danger of jury tampering, one judge will site alone to hear the case

Tealeaf

18-06-2009 11:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 722724)

.... The judge said there was a significant danger of jury tampering, one judge will site alone to hear the case

Do you mean sit or ****e?

derekgas

18-06-2009 11:24

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Not sure I would agree with this, it is much easier to 'tamper' with one person, than with a whole jury numbering twelve people!

Tealeaf

18-06-2009 11:27

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Originally Posted by derekgas (Post 722726)

Not sure I would agree with this, it is much easier to 'tamper' with one person, than with a whole jury numbering twelve people!

That's why the majority verdict of 10-2 was introduced some years ago, replacing the requirement for all twelve jurors to agree on guilt.

Eric	18-06-2009 15:34

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Isn't it up to the accused to elect whether he is tried by a jury or by a judge alone?

jaysay

18-06-2009 15:50

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 722725)

Do you mean sit or ****e?

Without the "e" Tealeaf:rolleyes:

jaysay

18-06-2009 15:53

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 722796)

Isn't it up to the accused to elect whether he is tried by a jury or by a judge alone?

Not here Eric, you can chose trial by jury or by magistrate for some cases, its only a short time ago that legislation was past to allow no jury trials and its the first time its been used, think it was past in 2007

***Mr D***

18-06-2009 15:58

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Sounds a bit dodgy to me.

How do we know the accused would be getting a fair trial.

accyman

18-06-2009 19:03

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i wonder how long it will be before tey start dragging people into court without a jury for mush lesser crimes

they could have still had a jury if teh jury was sat in another building watching by video link so they couldnt be seen

that way there would have at least been a jury where now it all depends on what side of teh bed a judge got out of that particular day

***Mr D***

18-06-2009 23:32

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 722864)

Probably not to long.

True they could of had a jury by video link wonder why they chose not to have one at all.:confused:

accyman

19-06-2009 00:59

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no idea but i bet when found guilty which wont be a surprises verdict even if they were innocent teh case comes up before teh european courts as an unfair trial

unless its european law that you can be tried without a jury european law usually over rides english law

steeljack

19-06-2009 03:30

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maybe its just what the UK needs , a few modern day Judge Jeffreys, someone who doesn't take any crap . :D :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Jeffries

SPUGGIE J

19-06-2009 04:59

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 722984)

maybe its just what the UK needs , a few modern day Judge Jeffreys, someone who doesn't take any crap . :D :D

George Jeffreys, 1st Baron Jeffreys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How long before we end up with a legal system like that the comic 2000AD had with Judge Dredd?

jaysay

19-06-2009 09:15

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 722986)

How long before we end up with a legal system like that the comic 2000AD had with Judge Dredd?

He didn't take crap of any one:D

Tealeaf

19-06-2009 09:19

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 723021)

He didn't take crap of any one:D

Of or off..........?

jaysay

19-06-2009 09:44

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 723023)

Of or off..........?

Are you Sams Dad or what:D

accyman

19-06-2009 13:01

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 723035)

Are you Sams Dad or what:D

lol :D

Tealeaf

19-06-2009 13:15

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Who's Sam? Am I missing something here?

jaysay

19-06-2009 15:47

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 723078)

Who's Sam? Am I missing something here?

He's a cheeky young whipper snapper who points out mistakes:D

accyman

19-06-2009 15:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 723129)

He's a cheeky young whipper snapper who points out mistakes:D

yeah hes a bit of a cupid stunt :)

jaysay

20-06-2009 09:01

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 723131)

yeah hes a bit of a cupid stunt :)

Exactly:D

wadey

20-06-2009 10:27

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They don't have jury trials in Northern Ireland

jaysay

20-06-2009 11:58

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Originally Posted by wadey (Post 723343)

They don't have jury trials in Northern Ireland

They do now

MargaretR

20-06-2009 12:16

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A dangerous development - what next? - legal lynch mobs?

Tealeaf

20-06-2009 12:19

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 723364)

A dangerous development - what next? - legal lynch mobs?

I can't wait........

jaysay

20-06-2009 12:24

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 723364)

A dangerous development - what next? - legal lynch mobs?

Ordinary ones would be fine by me for some of today's cretins:rolleyes:

jaysay

20-06-2009 12:29

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Just a little wander, Alan Stanford has been remanded in custody charged with embezzling $8 million, if found guilty he'll be sentenced to over 350 years inside without parole:rolleyes:. What would he get in this country, afternoon tea on the Westminster terrace with Gordon, so he could give him lessons on book keeping

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