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Thanks for all the good wishes! Kels has been given antibiotics that would seem to indicate it's just a virus rather than full on swine flu. I have to keep an eye on her temp for the next 24 hours and keep on with the paracetamol, ibuprofen and fluids! ( looks like I did actually know what I was doing after all!:rolleyes:) NHS direct website advises you to contact GP which is what I did, and not to take to hospital unless condition worsens or there are underlying medical conditions, I did the checklist last night and it is quite clear on that. ( also available in large print for those of us with comprehension problems).
Also for info Accyman is correct about the out of hours pharmacy on Townsmoor retail park but it's only open till midnight.:D
PS thanks to Derek and to Em for offering help, much appreciated.

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Reece now has it, just off to pick up the tamiflu

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Hope he's ok soon, and also everyone else. My son comes back from holiday tomorrow and all i keep thinking is, what is he going to pick up on that plane. Apparantly it's got a seven day incubation period, so if anyone who was incubating swine flu went for a seven day hol they will probably start suffering when they're due home.

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hope he's feeling better soon flashy:(


ive been thinking about that for when i go on my hols... 3 hours stuck on a plane poosible with some one with swine flu and recirculated air :(

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Hope Reece is better soon, do you have to keep him isolated till he finishes the medication?

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just been to pick the tablets up, he's on 60mg of Tamiflu twice a day for 5 days, he has to stay in for 5 days ....they can only call it 'suspected' now they will NEVER be able to confirm it anymore because they have stopped doing the swab test, they can only go off the symptoms, i had to go through 3 different doctors to get the Tamiflu for him

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Yeah well if i get swine flu, im not taking no medicine. Its not been properly tested yet .. apart from tamiflu

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You won't get better without the medication, thought it was Tamiflu they were prescribing:confused:

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I don't think that's quite true, Tamiflu, hopefully, alleviates the worst symptoms but it's not a cure. The body's natural defences get rid of the virus eventually. If the condition has been made less severe by the medication the body has more reserves of strength to call on and is able to overcome the virus. Anyone who has ever had flu knows how weak it leaves you but few of those people will have had treatment, before this outbreak, yet have still survived.

I would ask for Tamiflu, if I got it, because I have a heart and lung problem. Twenty years ago, when I was very fit, I wouldn't have bothered.

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Well, Kels has been ill since Monday with what is "not" swine flu and has now lost 11lbs in weight, she has actually started eating again as of yesterday and although she still looks rather crap and is very weak I think we are over the worst of it. I would bet my life that she has actually had it or a variant of it this week and would caution you all against accepting a doctor's opinion on this especially if your Doctor is located anywhere near Abbey St in Accy.:rolleyes:

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Antibiotics are useless against viruses ... work on bacterial infections

Poor lass, glad she is finally showing some improvement Lindsay. Would guess you are correct and that it was some sort of flu.

Problem with this 'self-diagnosis' on the NHS web is that it can just be a heavy cold which, let's face it, can make you feel extremely poorly. Tamiflu can only be used once in a lifetime, and if you were ever to get a confirmed flu, cannot be prescribed again.

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Glad Kels seems to be on the mend Linds:)

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I hold the belief that you should find out about any drug prescribed before taking it.
Whether or not you take it is your choice - I think that your choice should be an informed choice.

The active ingredient in Tamilflu is oseltamivir phosphate.
This is produced from shikimic acid extracted from the chinese herb known as star anise.
The pharmacutical companies have bought so much of it that the price of star anise has shot through the roof.

Shikimic Acid, China Shikimic Acid products- China Shikimic Acid Manufacturer, supplier

It is in other plant sources but is most concentrated in star anise.
Other plant sources are being investigated -

New source of Tamiflu ingredient could boost production

Because of this shortage they have developed a way of fermenting it from E-coli :eek:

Metabolic engineering for microbial production of ...[Metab Eng. 2003] - PubMed Result

There are side effects which some people may just write off as the effects of the virus they are attempting to get rid of.
Oseltamivir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Japan and South Korea do not use it on persons under age 19.

The ingredients are-
Black iron oxide (E172)
Croscarmellose Sodium
FD and C Blue 2 (indigo carmine, E132)
Gelatin
Oseltamivir
Povidone
Pregelatinised maize starch
Red iron oxide (E172)
Shellac
Sodium Stearyl Fumarate
Talc
Titanium dioxide (E171)
Yellow iron oxide (E172)

If it has help Kelsey getter better more quickly then it was worth it, but then how do you decide whether it helped :confused: maybe she has a good immune system and didn't need it.

Glad she seems to past the worst of it now :)

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Don't think she was prescribed it Margaret ... just antibiotics !!

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...words fail me......:rolleyes:
I am just thankful that I am surviving without using the 'expertise' of any doc.

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In this case, I am inclined to agree with you Margaret and I think Lindsay would too, according to her post.

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I'm actually lucky really I haven't had any bad experiences with doctors, I can only think that without them I wouldn't be here today. I was once interviewed on Radio Lancashire by Joe Wilson the day before I launched the Hyndburn Branch of the NAC, he asked me about the consultants within this health authority, I just said that my consultant (Dr Ormerod, now professor) walks on water as far as I was concerned. Some days later I received a letter from Dr Ormerod, thanking me for the unsolicited praise, but that it had caused him problem, that evening when he got home from work his wife had 5 loaves and three fishes waiting so he could make the tea for the village:D He also has a wicked sense of humor as well as a bedside manner:D

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jesus christ i hope my lads dont have to have this because all those E numbers will have them hyper in no time :D

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Think they would give my asthma some gip to accyman:D

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well the Tamiflu tablets have helped Reece, he's even back to arguing with me now

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yeah i can see how E numbers making you hyper running about the place would effect your asthma lol

my asthmas only mild and only sufffer from it when i get flu so im not really too concerned about this pig flu but my eldest is pretty bad with it and that bit does worry me quite a bit if im honest

totally over reacted yesterday he felt hot so i raced home and checked his temp with a thermomitor and he moaned about having to have a thermomitor in his gob but once i pointed out the other place they stick thermomitors he piped down and let me take his temp lol

turns out i had left the cars heater on full but cant be too carefull pmsl :)

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You'll know he's fully recovered flashy when he starts winning a do again:D

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If I get it I won't take Tamiflu. I have read that the production process uses antifreeze.:eek:
I suppose if your wife is frigid it might help :rolleyes:
I have searched and found a herbal extract and I have ordered some.
It was used during the 1918 epidemic and worked.

Lomatium dissectum as an anti-viral and anti-bacterial herbal medicine."

History

During the fall of 1918 when the influenza epidemic visited this section of Nevada, the Washoe Indian used a root in the treatment of their sick which was gathered along the foot-hills of this slope of the Sierra. The plant proved to be a rare species of the parsley family (Leptotaemia dissecta*), according to a report from the University of California.

Whether a coincidence or not, there was not a single death in the Washoe tribe from influenza or its complications, although Indians living in other parts of the State where the root did not grow died in numbers. It was such a remarkable coincidence that the root was investigated by a practicing physician who saw apparently hopeless cases recover without any other medication or care of any kind.

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Im glad Reece is on the mend Flashers, ya get back to giving us stick again! :D

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Even though our kids can be very annoying, I'm sure we would rather have them that way instead of sick.

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According to the Daily Express, Cherie Blair has been diagnosed with swine flu. So there is some good news after all.

:eek::eek::eek:

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thats not nice! wouldnt wish it on my worse enemy!

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hope she gives her bastard husband gives her a big wet kiss tonight :D

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Well i would!

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english version:

hope she gives her bastard husband a big wet kiss tonight:D

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your quite right Emma, its an awful thing to have and like you, i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy, i was in tears Thursday and Friday with Reece, as a parent you feel so frightened and helpless, there is nothing you can do other than give them the tablets and paracetamol and hope they kick in quickly, i spent 2 nights sleeping on the floor at the side of his bed just to make sure he was going to be ok, his temperature was so high he was hilucinating...not a good thing for a 12 year old (or anyone else) to go through

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im glad hes getting better flashy, it must have been terrifying for you :( its really scaring me at the moment with grace being so young, tys a big strong lad and im scared of him getting it

my friend has it, she is 26 weeks pregnant adn in isolation in blackpool hospital, they are giving her steroids for the baby and think it might have sent her into labour :(

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awww thats awful, my sis-in-law is pregnant too, she has 7 weeks left and is frightened to come near Reece even now, and rightly so

i hope your friend pulls through and the baby is fine

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I doubt that even the swine flu virus would want to associate itself with the likes of Tony Blair - the lying cretin who has condemned so many fine young men to death by his cowardly creeping up to the similarly discredited George Bush.

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Blairs make £2m profit on house that taxpayers helped pay for | Mail Online
But their snouts are firmly in the trough

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You have to laugh at the number of anti-government opinions on here, using Daily Mail articles to support the argument....lol

On to the swine fu, well I tried to get through to the swine flu hotline earlier... all I got was crackling. ;)

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Hmmm! If you can outline anything good about the current adminstration, then I'm sure it would be interesting to hear it.

:dummy:

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Well it looks like the people across the road from me has it
A doctor came this morning with is bag white coat and a mask on his face
although he could just be fumigating the place but i doubt it

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What ever anybody does don't look to Ed Miliband for solace, he's caused a panic saying the NHS can't cope, that's really sensible for an Health Minister

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That must of been because of the number of callers.

According to the BBC, the hotline and internet site recieved a average of 2600 calls/hits a second. 74.000,000 in 8 hours, WOW thats a lot of calls/hits for 1 days.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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swine flu in ferngore

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well if it goes in the spinning jenny it will get its arse kicked

it has been warned :D

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If you roasted wee Gordon all you would get would be Crackling. :eek:

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I've had it!!

It was a joke. Swine = Pigs = Crackling.

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Those who get this flu don't seem to be ill for very long so it doesn't appear to be quite as dreadful as is sometimes feared. The tabloids are doing a wonderful job engendering hysteria and the government, as usual, is running around like Corporal Jones shouting, "Don't panic!" and waving tamiflu instead of a bayonet. :rolleyes:

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I agree with that Cath.......they certainly know how to make a drama out of something.....and it is hardly surprising when you hear that one of the chaps in charge is a big cheese in the organisation that makes the anti-virals.
They want folk to be banging on the GP's doors demanding the Tamiflu/Relenza.......and most of these will not have the H1N1 virus at all, because they aren't testing folk anymore.
Many viruses will give the kind of symptoms that the NHS Pandemic centre are asking callers if they suffer from.

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I've been ill recently, and when i used the symptom checker on the NHS direct website it said that I had swineflu (other than the acheing i had every symptom), I think that I just had a bad cold, may be wrong but according to the website I should have rang the swineflu hotline. Whatever I have had lasted around 7 days (of feeling completely cack and if i didnt have children to look after then i do think a lot of that would have been spent in bed or lying on the sofa) now ive just got a dodgy caugh and bit of a bad chest that doesnt seem to want to clear up.

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The other worrying apsect of taking the anti-virals is that they are not without side effects......doctors are reporting an increased incidence of patients who are needing to visit the surgery because of the side effects of these drugs......another worry is that when the H1N1 virus mutates, as it surely will then the antivirals may be ineffective.

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when Reece took the Tamiflu he didnt get any side effects whatsoever

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I'm not relishing the idea of even going there flashy, it maybe that it was with Reece being young and fit, as for me I don't know which would kill me the Flu or the Tamiflu, I don't want to risk either:rolleyes:

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Jay i reckon swine flu would be bad for both me and you anyway, due to our asthma, worse for you obviously

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Now don't you go thinking and reckoning .. you know it makes your brain hurt...best thing is to do some ironing and washing to take your mind off such complicated man talk.

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Quite right flashy, I'm just hoping no swine gives it me:D

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It didn't take um long did it, it seems some unscrupulous individuals are applying for Tamiflu under numerous names through the web site and help lines and then selling them at car boot sales, you really couldn't make it up:(

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Well It got me or should I say "suspected" but I have had a extremely lowered immune system for a while and was down as high risk.

Well I have to say it absolutely floored me, started with a headache for a few days which normally I wouldn't bother with tablets but it was sufficiently bad enough that I did and over the weekend it steadily got worse and then the throat started and I thought I was getting tonsilitis as my throat is a weak point for me. My glands were swollen but my tonsils weren't. By the middle of the night Sunday I was in agony all over and couldn't move, I even rang my son in his bedroom to get me a glass of water as I couldn't move and was burning up but yet shivering, he got the thermometer and it showed up at 40.5.

I had some cold and flu tablets which i took and just tried to control the temp.. going to the toilet was like a marathon except I crawled rather than ran!!!!!!! I spoke to my friend who works for the nhs who said she would be my flu buddy..ie...got registered, had all the symptoms and she collected the tami flu on tues for me.

It's now after midnight friday am and I am feeling alot better, it just feels like a really bad cold now but with a hacking cough and completely drained..

what's really peeved me is I had tickets for the "walking with dinosaurs" spectacular last night at the MEN so my kids had to go without me and took an extra friend in my place...:( and according to them it was amazing and they managed to film some of it on their mobiles (I know its not allowed :rolleyes:)

So hopefully onwards and upwards now

but have to agree wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy :o

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Do please check first, before you are able to say you've been told it's suspected swine flu.

(See post 17)

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...g-48493-2.html

Can you read, and write your own name?

Do ever use a knife and/or a fork to eat a meal?

Would you give up your seat on a bus for an elderly person, or a heavily pregnant woman?

If you answered yes to at least two of the questions you are what is described as 'middle class', and therefore free to publish the fact that a doctor suspects you had the swine flu virus.

(By the way, glad you're better...he said, exhibiting exquisite manners, surely another give away sign of being bourgeois.)

(Fancy French word, damn. There's another tell tale indicator!)

:D

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glad your better Lesley *BIG HUG*

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Thanks Shaz... on a downer today as I just feel so drained. I have had to do an online shop for first time in years and it took me nearly two hours!!!!!!!!!!

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Take Care HR.........hope you get better soon.

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Glad you are feeling better Lesley.

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Gosh HR, that was definitely more than a common cold ! Don't push yourself too much for the next week or two. x

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Tamiflu side effect in Children.

Half of children taking Tamiflu have side-effects | Society | guardian.co.uk

Quote from Website. (The artical is a lot longer)

"More than half the children in England taking the swine flu drug Tamiflu suffer side-effects such as nausea, insomnia and nightmares, researchers have found."

On a side note it seems the media hype has slowed down again, wait untill a month or 2 when the UNTESTED vaccine is here.

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Last week my 19yr old grandson was 'rough' with a temp of 101.
I supplied him with
Lomatium dissectum as an anti-viral and anti-bacterial herbal medicine."
and the following day he was up, out and about, and bragging that he had beaten the swine flu in 24 hours.

PS Tamiflu had been supplied but not taken - glad my son trusted me to try the natural way first.

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Warning do not contract this if ya live in Accy, Alone, cos ya ring em up, get assesed, then are told ya have to go down Blackburn to obtain yer Tamiflu capsules,:( Town size of accrington n a 5 mile trail to obtain medicine, dont waste yer money ringing em, if ya have no-one to get em fer ya, just lie there n die quietly.:rolleyes:

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so we get two new medical centers but neither stock tami-flu ?

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i was offered Burnley or Blackburn when Reece had it

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aint sure was talking to a member n missus down accy n hour ago n he said when she had it he was sent to acorn lodge on blackburn rd. so maybe it depends on who/where yer G.P. is?:confused::( which is just as daft.:(

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Had my swine flu injection at the docs a couple of weeks ago

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I got a call from my GP last week, to ask if I wanted the Swine flu jab, I just said no thanks