Who wants a Tory Government?
 

this poll does not show who chose what...........just a simple poll

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to be perfectly honest i would like every tory prospective M.P. to contract Swine Flu.

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Yes 0 0%
No 1
Well thats looks like a pretty convincing vote.. so It's now closed! :D

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Those colours confused me for a second :o

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me too

Re: Who wants a Tory Government?
 

Comedians.

It'll encourage more creativity from those who oppose the government.

Compared to the alternative comedic revolution of the late seventies/early eighties, there's been very little new talent since 1997.

At least some people will be laughing when Lord Snooty and the other Beano characters take office.

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there goes the mininium wage, every child matters in fact any investment at all say good bye to workers rights etc

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Following today's count, Smith won with a total 13,591 votes. Labour's Chris Ostrowski, who missed the final days of campaigning due to swine flu, received 6,243 votes and the Liberal Democrat candidate April Pond came third with 4,803 votes.

The UK Independence party pipped the Greens to fourth place by 4,068 votes to 3,350.

The 16.49% swing from Labour to the Conservatives at Norwich North was just short of the 17.61% at last year's Crewe and Nantwich byelection.

Turnout was 45.88% – down almost a third on the 2005 general election figure of 61.09%.
Guardian

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What a frightening thought and after the results lastnight a sleepless night, what could they offer as a carrot to smooth their path, there's no council housing left and surely people havent forgot the greed culture which Mrs T started and which we are suffering the effects of now.

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Exactly - who started all this who privatised the railways, who cut NHS and promoted private healthcare (for only those who could afford it) who allowed the good friendly building societies to become big mean banks, who sold off British Gas (tell Sid) who wasted 19 years of oil revenues from north sea

Do I want the Poll Tax back ( with another name )

No thanks, - would rather have my eyes gouged - even the BNP are a better alternative than Tory... at least they're honest about their facist policies

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you would actually think that those with the most to loose woudl get off tehir arses and vote wouldnt you so if teh tories do get in then its no ones fault but their own

theres enough poor and vulnerable people in this country to make sure they stay out of power but it all depends if they can be bothered to vote


they think the have it hard now just wait until cameron get in pmsl

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Those who will lose most? Who is losing NOW under 12 years of Labour government.

Who has taxed the poorest? Who's jobs are on the line right now? Who's NHS and other services are living on borrowed money? Every single child is born into this nation with at least £20,000 of debt!

The wealth gap has increased to amounts never recorded under Labour. They pretend to be for the working man, but they have no idea how to run a country.. who gets punished?

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The sooner the better, this shower have done far more harm to the less well off than any Tory Govenment, they took away their hope

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Not true Jaysay, I still have hope, I hope the Tory's never get in again.
:tongueout

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Are you guys voting Labour honestly giving a thumbs up to massive public debt? 800bn in debt.

We're going to have over 3 million people unemployed. It's alright to go back to 30 years ago... what about now when profitable companies are collapsing simply because government failed to regulate the banks?

All this when Labour inherited a rock solid economy, unlike the Thatcher government which inherited the sick man of Europe and had to fix it. This government inherited a world class athlete of an economy and managed to destroy it.

Labour governments destroy economies. Unemployment is always higher when they leave office than when they went in. Is this really what you want?

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Do you really believe that the collapse of the world economy was due to the actions of the British Labour Party:confused: And at the same time you ignore that the mess you are in is the result of right wing greed gone rampant. And you support a party that will encourage laissez faire capitalism. A year or so ago, the Icelandic economy was "a world class athlete"; and now it is about as attractive as athlete's foot. No doubt there are Icelandic tories saddling their white steeds as we speak, readying themselves to ride to the rescue .... what a crock.

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...as if it makes the slightest bit of difference who wins the next election.

Already large swathes of legislation are decided in Brussels. In October we'll be signed up to the European Constitution (sorry, the Lisbon Treaty, to give it its new user-friendly name). After that, there'll be no going back...onwards to a European superstate. In ten years time the Westminster parliament will have as much relevance as the Welsh Assembly.

Still, don't let me stop you...what's a little thing like national independence compared to a good old party political squabble? :rolleyes:

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"over 3 million unemployed " - yep, sure sounds familiar - if you endured life under the last Tory government

Re a quote from Tom Harris MP

SITTING in the BBC studio at 4 Millbank earlier today, I found myself reminiscing on air about the first Tory recession of their time in office, when unemployment hit three million and a million more were dumped onto long-term invalidity benefits.

At the time, in the early ’80s, that level of unemployment was virtually unthinkable and had not been experienced since the 1930s. I recall speaking to a trade union official who told me that, despite the polls at the time, he had been absolutely sure that Labour would win the 1983 general election simply because the nation would not tolerate any government which presided over such a disaster…

Fast forward to today’s awful news that unemployment has hit the two million mark. And when economists predict an inexorable rise to more than three million in the next year, they’re greeted with unsurprised resignation.

The reason for that defeatism is that in recent memory, for almost the entire period of Conservative government from 1979 to 1997, mass unemployment was an inescapable fact of life. Nearly two decades in which the numbers out of work never fell below two million.

Enter Labour in 1997, and for the next 11 years we had a growing economy, record numbers of jobs and, for almost all of the period we’ve been in government, virtually full employment.



" world class athelete of an economy" - was it - were you there ?? - no, didn't think so

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We get it - there was high unemployment in the 80's. That doesn't make it okay for the 3 million people going to be unemployed by this time next year.

We had a growing economy that was built on debt after they stopped following the Conservative economic plans in 2001. Nothing to be proud of.

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"We get it - there was high unemployment in the 80's"

Not just "in the 80's" - you make it sound like a month or two - 17 long, long years where it never fell below 2 million

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Don't you think that the rise in unemployment was mainly due to the loss of our manufacturing industries due to the overwhelming surge of cheap imports ?

We've all experienced it locally with the textile industry.

Not sure who which party we can blame here ... just asking the question.

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Rather than being in living memory, for some young people the 'halcyon' days under the Conservatives are known only through the pages of a history book, as some weren't even swinging from their mother's teat at the time, so don't remember the utter misery that was endured by the majority, especially here in the north.

Embrace a lezzie, hug a hoodie, cuddle a kiddie fiddler.

No matter how much they try and disguise themselves under a caring/sharing guise they are still the same old Tories. The super wealthy masters who rely on their blindingly loyal footsoldiers to do their bidding.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but the fact remains it's still a pig.

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thinking about it unemployment was a damn sight higher than what people think under the tories they just hid millions of teenagers in somthing called teh Y.T.S where you worked a full week for £28.50 and even in teh 80's that was a miserable amount of money to recieve for a weeks work

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Your the first person o pose that question, never heard a hue and cry when the Lancashire Cotton industry went belly up, due to cheap import from the far East, people wanted the cheap clothes made by cheap labour and said sod it to cotton industry jobs

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Oh don't go spoiling the illusion, just because you can remember what actually happened, because you lived through it!

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Isn't profit the most important thing under a free market economy, so beloved of the Conservatives?

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i must admit i do wonder how some can comment on how good or bad things were under the tories when they were either not born or still wearing nappies at the time

mind you thatcher did steal their milk lol

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I would think a few people will remember the various Tory schemes to keep the unemployment figures artificially low in the 1980's

They also changed the the way the numbers of unemployed were counted several times to make it appear lower.

Unemployment had it's height in the 1980's was probably nearer to 4 million than 3 million

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And you reckon that this shower don't doctor every set of figures in every department that are issued:rolleyes:

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I think there's no doubt that unemployment was far higher in the 1980's, than it is now.

It wasn't uncommon to see people being made redundant two or three times during that period.

The unemployment count is also far more accurate now than it was then. The Tories fiddled the unemployment count for years to make it appear lower

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Democracy is 'dead in the water'.
There are increasing indications that national politics are decided at Bilderburg group meetings where both parties are told what to do, so whichever way you vote the outcome is the same.

Anarchy anyone?:D

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Everything is doctored now unemployment, Crime, hospital statistics, you name it Gordie fiddles it, the modern day Nero:(

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I cannot believe that people cannot see just what this government has achieved while it's been in power. Putting millions of people into pension poverty , selling off our gold reserves, ruining an incredibly strong economy, putting the country into massive debt with few countries in the world more in debt. Destroying centuries of tradition and placing more emphasis on celeb and spin than substance. The list is endless. Basically anyone who conveniently blames MrsT for all woes should cast there minds back to 1979 when rubbish was left to rot, lights went out, bodies were left unburied and the country was on it's knees. Regardless of what political preference you are without the changes brought in in the 80s you wouldn't be so comfy now.

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most sensible thing youve said all year...:d

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[quote=Perran;731006]I cannot believe that people cannot see just what this government has achieved while it's been in power. Putting millions of people into pension poverty , selling off our gold reserves, ruining an incredibly strong economy, putting the country into massive debt with few countries in the world more in debt. Destroying centuries of tradition and placing more emphasis on celeb and spin than substance. The list is endless. Basically anyone who conveniently blames MrsT for all woes should cast there minds back to 1979 when rubbish was left to rot, lights went out, bodies were left unburied and the country was on it's knees. Regardless of what political preference you are without the changes brought in in the 80s you wouldn't be so comfy now.[/q

whos comfy ,todays woes began with thatcher no economy in the world can survive without a manufactoring industry she and her cronies sold it off or shut it down and asset stripped this country for their own personal greed. they told blatant lies saying we are sticking up for the british people when they sold them down the river in europe in the world .they changed the rules so foreign companies could come and asset strip companies and pillage there order books. they changed laws they made protests illegal yous havent got a clue...

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[quote=cmonstanley;731029]You can't go on blaming Thatcher forever, she went 19 ears ago. Blair, Brown and co have been in power for over 12 years, why haven't they changed things back if they were so flaming brilliant, the only thing Blair did was to line his own pockets and make sure he was okay an on course to be European President, but at least Two Jags did something useful he learnt to play Croquet:rolleyes:

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Yet you support this government, who have presided over a far greater decrease in manufacturing than in the 80's..

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Just curious: there is a lot of talk about the economy on this thread; how is it going in general over there. I could read the papers; but I want to know from "the man in the street" .... ooops that should be "person in the street." Are you guys coming out of the recession? Or is the light at the end of the tunnell just another train?

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Ah, Economy, yes, we are still economising over here, if you notice the posts are getting shorter to save on ink.
;):p:cool::rolleyes::):confused:

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[quote=jaysay;731038] beacuse the multi national companies are the ones with the real power why do you think we were in iraq thatcher and her cronies made sure what about the first iraq invasion bailing out an oil rich nation ..soldiers for hire eh under major who was a thatcher cronie and was made a puppet while the puppet masters pulled the strings..at least the goverment are trying to look to the future by giving nissan a grant and creating 300+jobs making electric batteries...

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So, let's compare the Labour and Tory policies on fishing catch levels around the UK coastline...oh no, sorry, we can't, because despite the fact that this is supposedly our territorial waters, fishing policy is now decided in Brussels. Still, carry on arguing, I suppose it makes a diversion while you watch your independence disappear...

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The posts are getting shorter because there is no defence of the current administration.
If we are allowed to continue and sink under these funny men then we have all got problems.
Can anyone on this forum convince me that Labour is the way to go?
Maggie has gone and is done and dusted, so convince me that I should vote for a bunch of losers and I will consider it. :eek:

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European directives, uncontrolled immigration and greed, all allowed by both parties, I had to make 12 employees redundant in the late 80's, and am currently down to 5 from 11 employees before christmas, one of the redundant workers is my eldest son, I wouldnt entertain voting for Labour or the Tories, there isnt a promising alternative imo, I still believe that the MP's of any party will lie, cheat and deceive whilst lining their own pockets, there are people on this forum who who would make better MP's than the current choice, but not because they have a Labour or Tory preference, but because they have an open mind, and are honest.

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Whilst we are on about employment, it was the YTS which led to the system we have now, fast tracking unemployed people into professional jobs, we have doctors, dentists, nurses, plumbers, gas fitters, electricians etc etc who can take very short courses, and then are let loose on an unsuspecting public, with limited qualification, and even less experience, any wonder then (when professions used to have around 7 year apprenticeships), that so many professional people choose to leave the country?

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We are starting to realise all the "virtually full employment" (except those that preferred to live on free hand outs) was generated using borrowed money that could not be paid back.

Now the banks want their money back so the jobs are disappearing again.

Anyone good at maths?
Would it have cost us less than £800 billion to keep those 3 million out of work on benefits and to have properly regulated the banks so we were not in our current situation?