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gynn 04-08-2009 13:39

Lancashire's Tudor Rose
 
The new Conservative administration on Lancashire County Council has introduced a Tudor Rose logo to replace the Red Rose that is seen as being too close to the Labour Party logo.

They have missed a trick. The new logo should be a 14 petalled rose with two of the petals removed to represent the absence of Blackpool and Blackburn.

Either that or they should have introduced a logo showing a tin of Kennomeat to represent the complete dogs dinner that is local government in Lancashire!

mattylad 04-08-2009 14:24

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The Lancashire rose is a historical emblem that surpasses the council, what are they thinking of - the idiots!

Reamer 04-08-2009 14:39

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How much, I wonder, of taxpayers money has been squandered on scoring political points?

garinda 04-08-2009 17:03

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It isn't being replaced with the Tudor rose, according to Tealeaf.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...s-47736-5.html

(See post 63 in this thread.)

Whatever it is, it's another total waste of money, which could have been spent on a thousand other, more worthier needs, in the county.

Barrie Yates 04-08-2009 17:14

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The Tudor Rose
The dynasty of the Tudors was symbolised by the Tudor Rose which was the emblem of the Tudors and represented the fusion of the Lancastrian and Yorkist noble factions. This fusion was symbolised by the White rose of York and the red rose of Lancaster. An important emblem of the Tudors dynasty which marked the end of the devastating English civil war called the Wars of the Roses. This section covers the design and adoption of the Tudor Rose by the Tudors and where the emblems and designs can be found. A picture of the emblem is illustrated as follows:

Tudor Rose

i am proud of the red Rose of Lancashire - one son born in Blackburn but the second one in Sheffield. My wife and I had an agreement - i could plant a red rose but also had to plant a white one - peace was maintained.

katex 04-08-2009 17:32

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So, they went ahead and did it !! Comments by The Leader:-

News : Lancashire's red rose revamp

Note the logo in the top right hand corner ... just one big blob .. yuk!

garinda 04-08-2009 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 733391)
So, they went ahead and did it !! Comments by The Leader:-

News : Lancashire's red rose revamp

Note the logo in the top right hand corner ... just one big blob .. yuk!


County Councillor Geoff Driver, leader of the county council, said "The Tudor rose is a much-loved and well-known symbol of Lancashire and is part of our county's heritage. The new logo reintroduces the county's rose and mixes it with an up-to-date look."

No it isn't!!!

Where the hell do we get these numpties from?

As well as being costly, it's also wrong.

As others have said, the Tudor rose is a hybrid, uniting the roses of the houses of Lancaster, and York.

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikiped...ictory.svg.png

Absolute cretins, or more to the point we're the cretins, for voting these idiots into positions of power.

andrewb 04-08-2009 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 733405)
County Councillor Geoff Driver, leader of the county council, said "The Tudor rose is a much-loved and well-known symbol of Lancashire and is part of our county's heritage. The new logo reintroduces the county's rose and mixes it with an up-to-date look."

No it isn't!!!

Where the hell do we get these numpties from?

As well as being costly, it's also wrong.

As others have said, the Tudor rose is a hybrid, uniting the roses of the houses of Lancaster, and York.

http://wpcontent.answers.com/wikiped...ictory.svg.png

Absolute cretins, or more to the point we're the cretins, for voting these idiots into positions of power.

You mean it was created when we won? ..

Anyway how much is it going to cost Garinda?

katex 04-08-2009 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 733405)
County Councillor Geoff Driver, leader of the county council, said "The Tudor rose is a much-loved and well-known symbol of Lancashire and is part of our county's heritage. The new logo reintroduces the county's rose and mixes it with an up-to-date look."

No it isn't!!!

Agree, not exactly state-of-the-art, up-to-date look ... :D Still was done 'in house'...:rolleyes:

This statement is also intriguing: "Lancashire County Council's red rose logo has been updated with a new image which will also save the council money. "

How ? Any change in marketing costs a 'company' money surely ?

katex 04-08-2009 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 733482)
You mean it was created when we won? ..

Anyway how much is it going to cost Garinda?

Come on Andrew, change your political head and put on the economy/artistic one please .... feel sure you will agree the new logo is crap ....

steeljack 04-08-2009 21:50

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Guess this is just another example of declining standards of Education , don't they teach 'proper' English history anymore ? :rolleyes: :D

g jones 04-08-2009 22:14

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The first decision which took 3 weeks was to increase their allowances. The 2nd decision was to change the logo.

How will it save money??

cashman 04-08-2009 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 733485)
Come on Andrew, change your political head and put on the economy/artistic one please .... feel sure you will agree the new logo is crap ....

Jeez kate thats a tough un yer asking.:D

katex 04-08-2009 22:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones (Post 733500)

How will it save money??

Dunno' Graham, over and out to you now to ask the question, sure is puzzling me ... http://planetsmilies.net/confused-smiley-17424.gif

garinda 04-08-2009 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewb (Post 733482)

Anyway how much is it going to cost Garinda?

It'll cost me the same as every other poor sod in the county who's paying for it.

Having a council leader who proudly, and wrongly, proclaims that the Tudor rose is the symbol of Lancashire is cringeworthy, and shameful.

garinda 04-08-2009 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 733491)
...don't they teach 'proper' English history anymore ? :rolleyes: :D

Apparently not to the leader of Lancashire County Council.

God forbid H.B.C. sells Haworth Art Gallery to them.

They'll probably think Tiffany glass is a member of the Pussycat Dolls.

katex 04-08-2009 23:06

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1 Attachment(s)
Maybe, we should be democratic and take a vote ... :D

Attachment 14319

Top ... new.
Bottom ...old.

garinda 04-08-2009 23:14

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I'm suprised they haven't gone the whole hog, and totally wiped away any historical accuracy, and given us this.

http://www.urbanaintervencija.com/in...-blue_rose.jpg

Still it's only money.

It's not like people worked hard to pay the taxes, that have funded this.

It grows on trees, don't you know?

Or should that be bushes?

steeljack 05-08-2009 01:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by katex (Post 733517)
Maybe, we should be democratic and take a vote ... :D

Attachment 14319

Top ... new.
Bottom ...old.


Top ....its the traditional symbol of Lancashire , same as Yorkshires was the same/similar but White in colour

steeljack 05-08-2009 01:13

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interesting link ...the 'new' red rose is the similar to the original which dates back to 1485

Red Rose of Lancaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the link also mentions the Lancashire flag , anyone know if they are for sale a County Hall

andrewb 05-08-2009 02:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 733513)
It'll cost me the same as every other poor sod in the county who's paying for it.


The last I heard the logo was only going to be changed on items when they needed replacing. The replacements would be cheaper as the new logo uses fewer colours.

Reamer 05-08-2009 08:37

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Cllr Driver says

"Local people tell us that they want clear and regular communications from us, and to know who to go for to get the services they need. The new logo is one step in our plans to improve the way we deal with our residents


Note the use of the words 'clear and regular'before he then goes on to say


'And we will not be changing things like signs, uniforms and letterheads overnight - only when materials need replacing and have to be changed."


The changes won't be clear if different logos are in use at the same time and it won't be regular if different 'materials' need replacing as and when. Seems to me he really should have used the words 'confused and spasmodic'

Benipete 05-08-2009 08:46

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Well Lancashire County Council do have a habit of getting up most peoples Tudor:D:D


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