Tagged For Benfit Fraud
 

A grandmother who claimed £14,000 in a benefit fraud has complained that being made to wear a tag makes her feel like a criminal. Norma Allum 68, of Great Harwood forged her husbands signature in order to receive the benefits. I always thought that benefit fraud was a criminal offence but this woman seems to think that because the money is being taken out of her benefits now she ain't a criminal. They make you laugh with their logic don't they?

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hmm benefit fraud = criminal offence >>> get caught = criminal record and possibility of a tag...is she thick or what???

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Just what plannet are these people on,

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Wondered how long it would be before someone put this story up.

Of course she has committed a serious offence and taken money fraudulently form the tax payer ... us. Only defence I can give is that maybe the filling in of forms is complicated and can fathom the wits out of most of us, however, ignorance is no excuse is it. I really don't think this was the case either.

I couldn't understand the tagging ... after all not going to be a danger to anyone is she ? Or do you think they have let her off lightly, due to her age, rather than giving a prison sentence ?

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Maybe she has avoided prison due to her age Kate but am sure she knew when she signed her husbands name just what she was doing. I would be hanging my head in shame (not that it will ever happen to me) not shouting from the front page of the paper.

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I can understand she has commited fraud, so she should pay it back, criminal record noted.

TAG why is she a danger? will she run away?
How long is she on tag for I presume she is also under curfew 7-7 or something like that.

Prison, should she go, come on, people get away with a lot more that this and get nothing.

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And I agree 100% Bernie ... not defending her at all .. better just to keep her mouth shut as encourages comments that we are making. Probably wouldn't have been a story if she hadn't made these remarks and would have been tucked away in one small column of the LET.

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It's not about being a danger, I think in this case the tag has been used as a form of punishment, taking away some of her freedom... as for ignorance, unlikely to be that in this case as it has been dealt with very seriously so think there is prob more to it than we know!

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Sure you are correct HR ... think with anyone younger would have attracted a prison sentence, but has to be punished somehow ... wasn't a small sum either was it .... £14,000 ! Claimed in September 2005 !

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According to the report her husband who she was divorcing was getting £430 per month pension. Even though she was divorcing him he was "back and forwards" to her flat so she filled the form out for both of them.
She goes on to say ""It's an injustice what has happened to me. I'm an old lady and I should be compensated for what I've been put through"
"I've been made an example of and I'm not guilty"
Surley if she was unsure Welfare Rights or CAB would have put her right, would always get help if not sure myself

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heres the link to it ..

Great Harwood gran tagged for £14,000 benefit fraud (From Lancashire Telegraph)

seems she was divorcing her hubby and 'he was back and forth at her flat'.

Quite like this quote though :rolleyes:

Allum said: “His name is still on the tenancy, so I filled both of our names out on the form.

“I didn’t know I wasn’t allowed to do it. I didn’t think it mattered.

“It’s an injustice what has happened to me. I’m an old lady and I should be compensated for what I’ve been put through.

“I’ve been made an example of and I’m not guilty.”

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I hope they don't tag any MPs, who might also have committed fraud by collecting money for expenses on mortgages that they didn't have.

I hope they go to prison.

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its differnet when a MP commits fraud , didnt you know that :rolleyes:

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She should knit herself some leg warmers.

Although she'd still 'feel like a criminal', she could disguise the fact she was one, by covering it with some fancy wool work.

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She stole £14,000, I think that deserves a prison sentence. I don't care how old she is, she is a thief and should be locked up.

If she stole £14,000 from a bank I am sure she would have been locked up so what is the difference?

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thats it in a nutshell, always has been, 1 law fer them n 1 law fer us oiks.:rolleyes: will lay lincoln odds none of those M.P.s even see a court room fer fraud,n no-one hardly will bat n eyelid.:rolleyes:

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Eeew, that's a point Garinda ... how do you get your tights on .. would just have to go over it I suppose. Never seen one ... are they big ?

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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/...ag_228x312.jpg

Apparently on Thursdays, at Accy's Flea Market, you can buy a snap on cover in a faux Burberry, if you want to make more of a fashion statement with it.

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She has to pay it all back if she was sent to prison she might not have to pay it back?

Tag could be something like this.
More suspects breaching tag curfews | Metro.co.uk

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I hope you never need to find out.

Just make sure you never mention on any offical forms, details about that poor man you keep chained up in your attic, and you'll be fine.

:D

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P.M. me if you want to hear about the opposite of stealing.

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Thanks Garinda ... knew you would find me one ... :D

Quite big aren't they .. don't like Burberry. Diamond clusters would be good.

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when you rob from a bank you dont usually pay the money back if youv spent it

apart from that no difference

oh and he probably didnt use a shot gun either

i think thats about it now lol

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Darling, my men beg to be chained up .... :D

Whoops Ok .. sorry .. thread wander.

Anyway, she has got her just desserts ... end of.

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What the hell is putting a tag on this lady is going to prove?
is she is a criminal, is she is a danger to the public?
Brownie points for the magistrates?
Agree she has done wrong and should be punished.
If some one of a younger age sticks a glass in the face of another person, he gets a slap on the wrist because he or she had a bad upbringing......fined £75 pounds.
This case gives opportunities for local politicians to gloat. 'We caught this lady in the act'.....big deal.
Open the wider field and find benifit fraud within the able bodied community and I would consider that 'Job done'.

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Yet another pensioner who commits a crime then tries to use their age as a reason they should be shown leniency. :(

We've had a few lately. How insulting to pensioners, acting so thick then blaming her age. :mad:

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hmm after thought is that if pensioners were paid enough to start with then they wouldnt have to fiddle perhaps

nah screw her , throw her in jail lol

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Exactly Lilly ... you don't suddenly go brain dead once you reach pension age ... just happens more slowly like .... :D

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reckon its insulting to everyone Lilly, going to the press bleating fer sympathy.:(

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Very cool Rindi, like your new boots mate:D

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Just reading this morning that the Mother of that young footballer Delph who's just been transferred from Leeds to Aston Villa was done for claiming £45000 fraudulently, she said she did it so as to give her son a chance to make i as a footballer:rolleyes:

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This woman is paying back what she stole at 15 quid a month.......she is very unlikely to pay back the full amount because, at that rate it would take 77years to pay it back.

She is an old thief, but a thief nevertheless. She has more neck than a giraffe.