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Driving home from work today, two things occurred to me. The first being that the road I was driving up (Willows Lane) has [B]HUGE[B] amounts of rubbish blowing down the street...........

And secondly, that this happens every Wednesday/Thursday always after the refuse collecters have been round.

It seems to me that either there are people in or around that area who consistently do not use their wheely bin or more likely that the council workers are negligent in their job!

Do they have inspectors here? Does anyone else have similar problems in Accie?

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Yes we have the same problem
our street is a tip and the back is even worse
and its nothing to do with the bins
as this is every day

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I can speak for the Willows Lane area where it ISN'T an everyday thing. It's nearly every Wednesday which as Busman says is the day the bins are emptied. Sometimes I feel like they are emptied into my front garden!!!

It's been so bad sometimes that I've phoned the council but their response is that once it's inside my garden gate it's MY rubbish regardless of how it got there and whose bin it came from.

This week because it's been windy there seems to be a whole bin load blowing up and down the road. Sometimes if you're lucky you even get the black bin bag to go with it.

All this is in addition to the general amounts of rubbish dropped by schoolkids etc and assorted chip/kebab wrappers and polystyrene trays with plastic forks. :s_fmad:

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Ye gods Willow if I had to live with that rubbish outside my garden I'd gather it up and go and dump it outside the council offices.

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Don't tempt me Gobsmacked. lol

Now if there ever is rubbish outside the council offices they'll think it's me. I wonder if it blows that far down Ormerod St or if it's all in other people's gardens long before it reaches there.

Is that your front door in the avatar?

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That Photo willow says it alll :(:( send it to the council....................but dont hold your breath for a reply :(

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Hmmm, Thirty years of this sort of thing - and they throw a party to celebrate!!

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Will,
It's disgusting and obviously something started by the rubbish collection. Tell the council that you've seen a number of vermin encouraged by the spreading of left-overs in Willows Lane (that'll get them to come out to see the area).

I'd also get as much media attention that I could and your photo is a good start. Start a campaign, you've already got a bus driver as a material witness .

Never mind an Art Object in Broadway....get the streets clean first.

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Maybe I should let Accy Observer use the photo. What do you think?

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Despite the councils comments on who's responsibility the rubbish is once its in your garden, if you were to do the same to them they would certainly involve the police.

Can you get someone with a camera to wait around until the refuse collectors come around & catch them in the act of making a mess? That would then be even better ammunition to get the council to clean up thier act.

Also, it may not actually be the refuse collectors fault you know, as plastic bin bags are so thin these days that when full they break apart very easily.
I have a back gate that is very hard to open so I have to drop them over it & they often split when they land (if not aready) so I have to nip round the house to pick up the rubbish afterwards.

Mind you I have neighbours that just dont bother putting there rubbish out for the refuse collectors, they just put it out, does not matter what day or if its in a bin bag :(

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Its because the wheelie bins are only collected every two weeks and this builds a lot of rubbish up and peoples bins may be full so they put the rubbish at the side of the bin, but the bin men dont take it and leave it. That could be the problem.

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I think I know ONE reason behing this...Surely rubbish goes in whatever bin in the house, then when full they get emptied into a bin liner which then goes into your big bin in the back garden/yard. They then get put out on the back alley the night before collection to be collected in the morning. Following this reasoning if the householder has done this dilligently then there should be no reason for loose litter, but then you need to factor in the menace of cats! If there's any modicum of chicken, fish etc. in the bin liners they will tear 'em open overnight and rummage through them thereby depositing loose litter everywhere.

Kill 'em all I say! (Tongue in cheek...)

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In Willows Lane we have black wheelie bins. The bin men (refuse operatives or whatever the PC term is these days) don't even have to touch the contents whether they are in black bin bags or not. The wheelie bins are emptied every Wednesday (apart from Bank Holidays etc) by being hooked up to the back of the truck and then tipped in. This wasn't a torn-open-by-cats type bin bag. It was a dropped-by-the-bin-men-and-rolled-down-the-road-spilling-contents type bin bag. (Which seems to happen after they have tipped the bin's contents into the truck) The contents of the opened bag then blew all over the place.

The wheelie bins are put out either the night before or the morning of the collection. The bags are in the wheelie bins. At no time are they ever available for cats/foxes/rats or anything else to have a go at. The rubbish only appears after the contents of the wheelie bins have been tipped into the truck.

Yes I believe the council would have me for fly tipping if I did the same to them so how come this happens on such a regular basis?

Talking of fly tipping I can understand why people do that now. As a responsible rubbish disposer who had ammassed a small pile of junk (ie bits of old broken stuff) I phoned the council to ask if they could please collect it. They couldn't because they weren't taking any requests at present due to a backlog but suggested if I have transport I could take it to the tip. We hired a trailer, plonked it all in and trundled off up Whinney Hill. Were we praised for being responsible citizens? No, we were criticised for bringing too much rubbish!

Please tell me what we are supposed to do with it if not take it to the tip? Isn't that what the tip is there for?

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Its because people cant fit all their rubbish into the bins so they put it next to the bin, but the binmen wont pick it up and just leave it there.

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Rubbish is not just a problem in Accy or the UK. In Germany we have at least 4 bins. Blue for paper, Brown for Bio waste (veg peelings, bits of garden waste etc, Yellow (not everybody gets one of these) for packaging (plastic, yoghurt cups, foil tops, etc, and Black for general waste and other rubbish. The Blue bin is collected monthly, the Brown one every 2 weeks, the Yellow one every 2 weeks and the Black one every other week. Any extra rubbish once the bin is full, will only be collected in specially marked bags that have to be collected from the council and paid for.
Oversize rubbish (settee's chairs etc,) must be taken to the refuse tip and PAID for by volume or weight.
If there is any mess once the bin men have just visited, a simple phone call to the council will result in either (a) the council sending somebody to clear it up (normally within 1 hour) or (b) the Refuse truck is made to come back(with its original crew) and clear it up. They do not get paid for this time and are warned that any further mess will result in a reduction of their wages. I know this to be true as a neighbour complained last year and again this year....since then .......no mess at all.
Mind you, with these strick rules, waste collection and disposal is expensive...and guess who has to pay....That's right...Joe Soap (but we make sure we get our monies worth!!)

Its your council that needs a shake up!!

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First, apologies for messing up the thread title, (Thank you Gobsmacked for your future advice) The main reason I brought this subject up was that this weekend, my 2 daughters are visiting me from Bedfordshire for the first time in Accie.

I have raved on about how nice the people are up here and how lovely Accie is but unless the wind blows away the rubbish by tomorrow (or the street cleaners appear?) I am going to be really embarrassed by what I consider to be my home town!

If you would consider an approach to the council Willow, you have my full backing and support.

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I am confused.....why does Willows Lane have wheelie bins for starters?! If a bag fell out of a wheelie bin then it wouldn't neccessarily burst - which leads me to think that the bin bags are not being tied therefore opening and spilling contents all over the street when dropped. Of course the bin guys should clear it up but people could help by fastening the bags if this is the case.

I usually put my bins out in the morning - but missed out last week when they decided to come an hour early when I was on the school run.............

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I suppose Willows Lane has wheelie bins because Hyndburn Council wants us to have wheelie bins. They gave us wheelie bins and took our little old bins away the first week of wheelie collection. It's probably something to do with the type of collection trucks they use now where the bin clips onto the back and is tipped by the truck itself.

I remember when big wagons used to have a brush poking out from some hole or other so that the bin men could sweep up any mess they accidentally made but that was in the good old days.

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If bags can burst being dropped over mattylad's back gate then I'm sure they just as easily burst if they are dropped out of the bin wagon. It's not so much the technicalities of how it gets there as why the bin men won't pick it up that annoys me. It's in my garden and it isn't my rubbish. It could be contaminated with goodness knows what for all I know! Not to mention having to walk through it on the way up the street.

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I still recommend capturing the offending workers on film, that should prove where the rubbish is coming from once & for all.

I wish I could use a wheelie bin, although I was not keen when they first arrived in Burnley I can see how they can help.

Although with a family of 5 & a very poor recycling scheme in Burnley the std sized bin would be too small. Not that I could use one, my back yard was altered to fit a new kitchen/extension in & a single back gate cannot be opened more than 45 degrees, so a wheelie bin cannot fit through without doing some heavy alterations to the concrete steps leading up from it. thats why I am still on bags. & they split because I am dropping them 6' onto pavement slabs (and because they are very cheaply made).

Burnley now looks to be stopping any household recycling collections, pity I was just getting the rest of the family trained at washing out glass & recycling it. Now I'm going to have to make special trips in a car which will use more energy than will be saved in the recycling :D

In Burnley, if we have big items to get rid of or a yard that needs clearing we can order a community skip & although it usually can only be left during 1 day (otherwise it gets fired) its useful. Mind you we get backlogs & I had to take 2 car fulls to the dump this weekend.

Willow, can you tell how its being blown into your garden, do you have a fence, can you put netting up to keep it out? I know thats not getting at the root of the problem, but then that what the taking photo's is for.

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It's just a small front garden with a wall. It comes in through the wrought iron gate and over the wall when its a windy day like this Wednesday was.

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How would you go on if your council announced they would no longer take bin bags and delivered a wheelie bin or two? Apparently it's something to do with bin men not lifting bags up into trucks any more but just hooking the wheelie bin on and letting the truck do the lifting. They are not supposed to take things that aren't in the wheelie bin but I think in some cases they have done. I know at Christmas I had a lot of extra rubbish and they hadn't been one week so I rang up to find out what would happen and the woman I spoke to said just put bags next to the bin and they will be collected too as a one off.

In some cases people here have a green bin as well as a black one. The green one is for garden waste but they tell me I don't have a garden so I can only have a black one. That thing at the front of the house with a small wall doesn't qualify as a garden according to HBC.

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You must remember not to put anything in the Binman's Christmas box when they come knocking at the door in December. Failing that, dropping litter in the street is a criminal offence & so I suggest you get the community cops round and hiding in the bushes so when the binmen drop the rubbish they can leap out, yell "Gotcha", arrest 'em and earn a few brownie points.

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I'd already decided there won't be any Christmas pressies.

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I would have thought that connecting wheelie bins to whatever mechanism would take longer than just picking the bin bags out from normal bins and chucking them in! I still wonder why Willows Lane has them and I don't...not that I'm arsed...just wondering...I still have the old-school bins and there isn't any problem around my area as far as I'm aware.

Why do councils have to complicate things? Why not just have old-style bins - everyone puts their rubbish into bin bags inside said bins...that way there is no chance of 'spillage'. Progress eh.....?

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If it were a case of preference I'd rather not have a wheelie bin and just have my bin bags because there really isn't room in my yard with everything else for this lumping great black thing. The "bin hole" where the bags used to go is still there and surplus to requirements now but I can't incorporate it into the yard because it's a shared hole.