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entwisi

19-08-2009 06:58

Real unemplyment figures

so, although taken from biased reporting media the source was independant so,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-reveals.html

6 million really unemployed with projections of 6.4 million by the end of the year

worst case under Maggie 4.9 million

current cost to taxpayer 193 billion!!!!! 100 million more than when they came to power, now I'm sure that benefits haven't doubled......

so just where is this Goverment showing it has its finger on this?

yes there is a need for ssocial security for those that really need it but 193 billion pounds worth in this tiny country of ours? there are only ~ 60 million adults in the country for goodness sake

Boeing Guy

19-08-2009 10:35

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Interesting to see no remarks from our left wing branch....yet

garinda

19-08-2009 11:29

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How time flies.

Is it really only fifteen years since John Prescott, then opposition employment spokesman, was accusing the then government of the day of hiding the true unemployment figure?

Ministers told to attack Labour job claims - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Party politics is like some damn merry-go-round.

The same old boring ride, with only the dodgy old man taking your money being occasionally different.

Bernard Dawson

19-08-2009 11:36

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As the good old Daily Mail as commissioned the dodgy research, its surprising the figures are not even higher.

Wynonie Harris

19-08-2009 12:03

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Wouldn't believe anything this government or the oppostion parties say about umemployment figues or anything else. They're all a bunch of liars, charlatans and scoundrels!

entwisi

19-08-2009 12:59

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson (Post 737690)

As the good old Daily Mail as commissioned the dodgy research, its surprising the figures are not even higher.

Policy Exchange is an independent, non-partisan educational charity. We work with academics and policy makers from across the political spectrum. We are particularly interested in free market and localist solutions to public policy questions.

teh report was also published by teh telegraph, teh Sun, wales online, nuneaton Blah blah blah......

garinda

19-08-2009 13:18

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 737714)

Although the fairly right-wing itself Daily Telegraph, describes it as such...

'Policy Exchange has established itself not only as the largest, but also the most influential think tank on the right.'

The Right's 100 Most Influential: 50-26 - Telegraph

Less	19-08-2009 13:50

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 737714)

You say WE? are you declaring yourself to be part of this self centred group?

Oh my Goodness, there is no hope? If this is the best a think tank can recruit!

Pull the other one, since when have you been part of a WE instead of your big I AM?

P.S. Blah blah blah...... isn't really a good way of describing your beliefs

garinda

19-08-2009 14:02

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....and having that old right-wing war horse, and former editor of the Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore, as it's Chairman, does call into question the validity of Policy Exchange's claim to be politically neutral, even when described by the Daily Telegraph as being right-wing.

entwisi

19-08-2009 14:25

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 737721)

Yawn, poor attempt, heres some wine gums....

quotes from the website if you hadn't worked out like all the others

Less	19-08-2009 14:38

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Originally Posted by entwisi (Post 737726)

Yawn, poor attempt, heres some wine gums....

quotes from the website if you hadn't worked out like all the others

Oh dear, the best you can do? Why not mention the funds that went to helping the dosser folk that work for banks?

Nice secure jobs and a big bonus at the end of cocking up, No you would rather pick on the vulnerable, the unemployed the weak, blame them for this recession.

There will always be people needing a helping hand from society, but that is usually because of circumstances beyond their control, stick to bragging about how your bank didn't need a hand out, but don't come crying on here when you get made redundant by them because you, no matter how secure you feel will be in the front line, (I bet you had to duck the last time such rumours were being passed around).

accyman

19-08-2009 14:38

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to be fair most people use teh quote tags when quoting somthing, well except newbies lol

can i have wine gum please :D

BERNADETTE

19-08-2009 15:21

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You might like to take into account that "carers" are now included in the unemployment figures. Beyond me how they can class a "carer" as unemployed but hey ho what do I know about caring? And whilst we are calculating how much "carers" get paid all £53 or something very near that figure you might also want to calculate how many millions of pounds they save the country every year!!!!

andrewb

19-08-2009 16:18

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 737723)

It describes itself as looking for free market solutions. Therefore it's right wing on the political spectrum.. doesn't mean it is party political. I'm sure you yourself have an idea of thinking, but don't necessarily support any particular party. :p

I agree with Bernadette, full time carers shouldn't be included in the jobless total.

Eric	19-08-2009 18:04

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 737728)

Good point ... I remember Ed Broadbent, former leader of the New Democrats, referring to the banks and big business in general as "corporate welfare bums." There is too much criticism of the little people who find themselves in a bind because of bad business decisions on the part of big business, and too little criticism of those business who begged for, and received, billions of dollars from govt. (The govt. of Ontario handed out over 5 billion dollars to GM ... and the UAW (United Auto Workers), those terrible unions, eh, took massive wage cutbacks to help out the industry.))

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