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steeljack 28-08-2009 17:23

this kind of "terrorism" gets my vote
 
seems a groups of folks in Yorkshire are a bit upset about Christmas stuff being on sale in August .......got to say I tend to agree with them

Police hunt 'Christmas resistance gang' who threaten shop owners already selling festive stock | Mail Online

robert9 28-08-2009 17:25

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me to should not have them on sale :confused::confused:

Stumped 28-08-2009 17:57

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Originally Posted by robert9 (Post 739850)
me to should not have them on sale :confused::confused:

Ken Bruce had 'Mr Christmas' on his Radio-2 Popmaster program today (28/8/09). This nutter apparently celebrates Christmas 24/7 all year round, buys presents and eats a turkey dinner every day. Many stores are now pushing Xmas cards and the usual trivia that does nothing but negate the true meaning of Christmas and encourages materialism beyond reason. Don't get me wrong; I love Christmas but as SteelJack states: it's only bleedin' August! I've also spotted Hallowe'en stuff in certain shops.

vera 28-08-2009 19:47

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I read in the "SUN" the other day that Rochdale Council has put up their Christmas lights as their are "seasonal celebrations for several faiths, Eid in September, Hindu festival Diwali in October, Jewish holiday of Hannukah in December and even the Wicca festival Yule celebrated by white whiches and pagans on the winter solstice."
"Yet the town's decorations are traditional Christmas symbols including a giant Noel sign, an image of Santa Claus - and even a penguin on skis."
Is Christmas coming earlier and earlier? The lights were put up 127 days before Christmas and the temperature was more than 30C

flashy 28-08-2009 19:52

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it doesn't bother me at all, i start buying Christmas presents in September anyway (after Reece's birthday)

JCB 28-08-2009 20:34

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pull your own strings.for me Christmas starts 25 dec.its about the birth of Jesus.

shillelagh 28-08-2009 20:34

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For some the only way they can afford christmas is to start buying so early .. plus what about if they have to post stuff abroad ...

I saw before my birthday in july some calendars for next year in a shop and went into the cardshop in the arndale across from clintons yesterday and thats got all the christmas cards out - boxes and singles .. can you imagine buying a card for your girlfriend/boyfriend now then break up in november?:D:D:D

Anyway im not bothered .. ive already got my christmas cards - got em in the sale in january!!!!:D

West Ender 28-08-2009 20:45

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More power to their collective elbow - and their glue pot. I like Christmas, honestly, but I don't like it until Christmas, if you see what I mean.

If I could pass a law it would have to be that no shop can display Xmas goods and no trees/decorations may be put up before 1 December each year. ;)

garinda 28-08-2009 21:20

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People don't have to buy this Christmas stuff. Consumers have a choice.

These sad militant Christians, I presume they're Christians or why bother, are sick, targeting charities who sell Christmas cards in August.

Harrod's Christmas department always opens in August.

Until a few years ago Accy had an all year round Christmas store, which was always busy, until their rent increases forced them to close, and resulted in yet one more empty shop in the town.

If there's no market they wouldn't be selling them, but obviously there is.

What are we to expect next? Bombs sent to the homes of the staff of these charity shops, similar to the actions of the animal liberationists?

garinda 28-08-2009 21:24

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 739875)
More power to their collective elbow - and their glue pot. I like Christmas, honestly, but I don't like it until Christmas, if you see what I mean.

Personally I agre to some extent, but it's all down to choice, and economics.

Business is hard enough at the moment, and if there are people willing to buy their unseasonal goods, more power to their tills.

Do people feel as strongly when spring/summer fashions hit the shop floors in Febuary?

garinda 28-08-2009 21:31

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Disliking something is one thing, but forcing a charity like MIND to spend money getting new locks fitted, and frightening their volunteers is sick.

I see they don't feel strongly enough about this trivial matter to sign their names to the threats, or go undisguised when carrying out their 'work'.

Weak cowards, who have to hide behind a cloak of anonymity.

West Ender 28-08-2009 21:31

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I don't mind anyone buying Xmas presents months in advance. I don't even mind charities selling Xmas cards early. What I hate is going into a shop in September and being met with baubles, snowmen, tinsel and santas. It's ridiculous and has nothing to do with real Christmas, just money. :mad:

garinda 28-08-2009 22:13

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 739885)
I don't mind anyone buying Xmas presents months in advance. I don't even mind charities selling Xmas cards early. What I hate is going into a shop in September and being met with baubles, snowmen, tinsel and santas. It's ridiculous and has nothing to do with real Christmas, just money. :mad:

If Jesus Christ returned to Earth, him being the person whose birth the whole festival is supposed to be about, he would probably ask what 'baubles, snowmen, tinsel and santas' had to do with him in the first place, regardless of the month.

Explaining about Germanic Prince Albert popularising most Christmas traditions, probably wouldn't wash with Jesus.

As I said, I don't particularly like it, but targeting charity shops and their volunteers, and costing those charities money, and not being brave enough to put their names and faces to their 'campaign', is sadly pathetic.

garinda 28-08-2009 22:14

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 739885)
It's ridiculous and has nothing to do with real Christmas, just money. :mad:


...and it doesn't in December?

Wynonie Harris 28-08-2009 22:30

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Personally, I hope the prats who're behind this get nabbed and banged to rights.

Shops put Christmas stuff on display at this time of year for one reason and one reason alone - people want to buy it. If you don't, then go to another shop that doesn't have early Christmas stock.

As for it being about "making money" of course it's about making soddin' money - that's what shops do - they sell things to make dosh, whether it's for charity or for business reasons. No one's getting ripped off, no one's being forced to buy something they don't want to, so what's the big deal?

West Ender 28-08-2009 22:48

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 739890)
...and it doesn't in December?


Of course it does but at least it's a shorter period of money-grabbing.

Wynonie Harris 28-08-2009 22:59

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Originally Posted by West Ender (Post 739896)
Of course it does but at least it's a shorter period of money-grabbing.

So selling Christmas cards, decorations and other festive items is "money-grabbing", is it? Strange...I thought it was shops just going about their normal commercial activities - ie, selling people things that they want to buy.

accyman 28-08-2009 23:09

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 739872)
pull your own strings.for me Christmas starts 25 dec.its about the birth of Jesus.

then your quite a bit early with your celebations lol

i think this jesus chap you refer to was born around febuary , religion kinda altered his birthdate to suit them and their story about him been the son of some god or other

garinda 28-08-2009 23:21

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A genuine laugh out loud at the comment on the link, which pointed out that the seasonal terrorist wrote 'Xmas' on their anonymous threatening letter, rather than Christmas.

I'm going to start a terrorist campaign, targeting those who use the lazy abbrevaition Xmas, anytime before 3.30pm on December the 16th.

steeljack 29-08-2009 00:28

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 739906)
A genuine laugh out loud at the comment on the link, which pointed out that the seasonal terrorist wrote 'Xmas' on their anonymous threatening letter, rather than Christmas.

I'm going to start a terrorist campaign, targeting those who use the lazy abbrevaition Xmas, anytime before 3.30pm on December the 16th.

yep, and none of the "Holiday" cards featured Baby Jesus

(Jesus is the reason for the season) ;)

garinda 29-08-2009 00:55

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 739919)
Jesus is the reason for the season

That's a lovely Christmas song.

I'll start strumming it, and you just join in when you're ready.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/257064.jpg

:D

garinda 29-08-2009 01:08

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West Yorkshire Police have tonight arrested a fifty two year old man for criminal damage.

In May he apparently lost an appeal for unfair dismissal, after working for House of Fraser in Leeds, last December.

http://dontdatethatdude.files.wordpr.../bad_santa.jpg

Mancie 29-08-2009 01:13

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And there was me thinking Less only got out in the afternoons!

jaysay 29-08-2009 09:03

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I actually ordered my Christmas Cards this week, only because I got a good deal

flashy 29-08-2009 09:18

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talking of christmas, i whizzed my artificial tree last time i took it down, it was doing mi nut in, it was one of those where you had to put every single branch in, if you lot could keep an eye out for a black one for me and let me know if you see any i would be more than grateful :D:D:D

accyman 29-08-2009 09:33

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 739946)
I actually ordered my Christmas Cards this week, only because I got a good deal

were they those F.C.U.K designer cards that you send out to your labour friends ? :)

jaysay 29-08-2009 10:47

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 739958)
were they those F.C.U.K designer cards that you send out to your labour friends ? :)

Na accyman they're not on my Christmas Card list:rolleyes:

West Ender 29-08-2009 15:57

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All the bling and glitz, especially before December, is Xmas as far as I'm concerned. Christmas is at the end of December. ;)

Stumped 29-08-2009 19:03

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 739919)
yep, and none of the "Holiday" cards featured Baby Jesus

(Jesus is the reason for the season) ;)

My late Aunt would only accept Christmas Cards that bore a religious theme, bless her. If anyone dared to give her anything else the cards were ceremoniously burnt and the sender lectured on 'The True Message of Christmas'. Cards of this type are fast becoming a rarety - much like the practice of the Christian Faith.

accyman 29-08-2009 19:07

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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 740084)
Cards of this type are fast becoming a rarety - much like the practice of the Christian Faith.

good , one religion down and all the rest to go and the world will be a much better place :)

Restless 30-08-2009 01:59

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 740086)
good , one religion down and all the rest to go and the world will be a much better place :)

7 mulit coloured jumping smileys +1 Restless individual agrees with yah :wave8:

Stumped 30-08-2009 15:14

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 740086)
good , one religion down and all the rest to go and the world will be a much better place :)

Can't argue with that!

garinda 24-05-2010 23:38

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Originally Posted by JCB (Post 739872)
pull your own strings.for me Christmas starts 25 dec.its about the birth of Jesus.


Luke 2:8 mentions that shepherds were living in their fields keeping watch over their flocks during the nighttime (and, one would assume, also during the daytime.) This is a good indication that Jesus' birth did not happen in December when the flocks would have already have been moved from the fields into pens. They were only in the fields during the warmer months. There is a remark in the Talmud that flocks were put out to grass in March and brought in during the beginning of November. During the Jewish month of Heshvan (our October/November) the fall rains hit and the animals are penned up. At best, the passage narrows down the birth month to one of 7 months in the late spring, summer, or early autumn.

The month of Jesus birth can actually be calculated with reference to the conception of John the Baptist.

Luke records that Zacharias returned immediately to his home, and that John was conceived shortly thereafter, probably during the last half of Sivan, the 3rd month in the Jewish calendar. Allowing for a normal 9 months pregnancy, John would have been born in the springtime. The angel came to Mary when John's mother Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant, and reports that Mary conceived very shortly after the angel's visit.

Assuming a normal, 9 month pregnancy, Jesus would have been born about 6 months after John, sometime in the autumn of the year.

So really Flashy is nearer to the mark than you are.

;)

kestrelx 30-05-2010 00:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 739946)
I actually ordered my Christmas Cards this week, only because I got a good deal

Threatening Charity shops is a bit below the belt and for cards. It's food I object to them selling them too early because it 's a cynical way of making more money out of the people that's one reason any way but intimidating Charity shops is criminal.

jaysay 30-05-2010 08:54

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 819063)
Threatening Charity shops is a bit below the belt and for cards. It's food I object to them selling them too early because it 's a cynical way of making more money out of the people that's one reason any way but intimidating Charity shops is criminal.

Whats that got to do with the price of fish;)

oliver93 31-05-2010 11:47

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well since there are 6 months until xmas I think these guys were in the right. I would do the same thing until people in this country get a grip.

Wynonie Harris 31-05-2010 12:02

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Originally Posted by oliver93 (Post 819305)
well since there are 6 months until xmas I think these guys were in the right. I would do the same thing until people in this country get a grip.

They're shops selling commercially available goods. They're not breaking the law, they're not making anyone buy anything they don't want, so they should be free to go about their business without let or hinderance. Maybe it's you who should "get a grip". :rolleyes:

garinda 31-05-2010 17:43

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Originally Posted by oliver93 (Post 819305)
well since there are 6 months until xmas I think these guys were in the right. I would do the same thing until people in this country get a grip.

As pointed out in post #33, the most likely date for Jesus's actual birth date is early Autumn.

;)

I hope if you get your planned one nighters up and running, no one objects to your legally held events, and decides to damage the property in protest, for whatever reasons, leaving you with a hefty bill to pay.

;)

garinda 31-05-2010 17:48

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I notice none of those who are for pro-vandalising charity shops, have said they'd support similar action against every single store selling fashion in the country, and who fill their shops with unseasonal summer clothes in Febuary, just as soon as the winter sale has ended.

I think some people better get a grip on their logic, before they start supporting criminal damage.

kestrelx 31-05-2010 19:59

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 819084)
Whats that got to do with the price of fish;)

I thought Charity shops always had Xmas cards on sale, it's taken as read. It's Sainsbury's and ASDA floggin Christmas gear from August that gets up my goat. Don't pick on the charity shops - anyway we don't have fish for Christmas :cool::cool:

JCB 31-05-2010 20:00

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 819308)
They're shops selling commercially available goods. They're not breaking the law, they're not making anyone buy anything they don't want, so they should be free to go about their business without let or hinderance. Maybe it's you who should "get a grip". :rolleyes:

I agree.You've got to pull your own strings and do things your own way.
What others choose to do is their right.I might not like it but they are free to pull their own strings.It's not for me to pull them for them.

jaysay 01-06-2010 09:10

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 819370)
I thought Charity shops always had Xmas cards on sale, it's taken as read. It's Sainsbury's and ASDA flogging Christmas gear from August that gets up my goat. Don't pick on the charity shops - anyway we don't have fish for Christmas :cool::cool:

Well if Supermarkets sell Xmas stuff all year round, you don't need to bother about it just ignore it like its not there, simples:rolleyes:


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