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shillelagh 29-08-2009 12:53

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for the traditional pint glass ...

Last orders for traditional pint glass as search begins for alternatives - Times Online

But why .. i can remember when i was a kid you had a choice re which glass you got your pint in .. it was either a barrel glass with all the dimples on and weighed a ton when you tried to pick it up or a straight glass. Now its mostly straight glasses what they have ..

But now theyre saying they want a safer alternative to the glass .. but they have .. pubs do have an alternative the plastic ones they use.

accyman 29-08-2009 15:15

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beer tastes crap out of a plastic cup and the practice of serving beer in plastic cups should be outlawed as it destroys the product you purchased before you have even taken a sip

if these idiots that think this crap up had their way we would be drinking out of teet cups :rolleyes:

http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFi...cup_162402.jpg

yes i know less copes with one but theres always the exception :D

jaysay 30-08-2009 09:35

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Unfortunately the link ain't working Jen I'm just getting 404, but no doubt its another European directive, just what would we do if we didn't have the Bureaucrats from Brussels holding our hands:(

Less 30-08-2009 09:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 740140)
Unfortunately the link ain't working Jen I'm just getting 404, but no doubt its another European directive, just what would we do if we didn't have the Bureaucrats from Brussels holding our hands:(

It's working o.k. here.

katex 30-08-2009 09:53

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Mine is OK too ... but have copy/pasted these for you Jaysay, which I found interesting ... hummph ... seems most of our pint glasses are now made in France !!

Pulling points
— 126 million pints of beer are served each week in Britain
— The average British man will drink 11,600 pints in his lifetime Beer was drunk from pewter, pictured below, or earthenware mugs from the 1400s, with lids added after the plague to keep out flies. These lidded “steins” were used until the 20th century
— Clear glasses were first used in the 1700s to show the beer’s colour, but were not popular until after the First World War
— The classic British glass pint jug was originally ten-sided but changed to a dimpled design in the middle of the last century. Their popularity waned because the handles prevented stacking
— The most common shape of glass in pubs is the “nonic”, derived from it’s “no nick” design — a bulge below the rim that prevents them from chipping
— Pint glasses have a number on them from the Weights and Measures Authority, used to identify which office inspects them.
— Most British pints are drunk out of French glasses made in Calais
Sources: Design Council, Northumbria police

jaysay 30-08-2009 09:56

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 740141)
It's working o.k. here.

Just tried it gain Less and its working now, but it threw a 404 at me 3 times before, anyway as a conosur I bet your not in favour of plastic glasses, I know I ain't. why is it that we all have to suffer because some divvies think they make good weapons when they're p***** on a Saturday night

katex 30-08-2009 10:03

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Agree Jaysay, but 87,000 injuries per year !! Come across one or two who have lost an eye through this aggressive 'practice'

Mind you, don't drink beer myself, and wouldn't bother me if bacardi or wine was served in plastic containers .. not the same I know, but safer ... 'tis sad though.

emamum 30-08-2009 10:09

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its Blues festival in colne this weekend,for as long as i can remember they ahve used 'plastic's' instead of glass to stop the idiots glassing each other and it makes less for everyone to clean up... each pub has to clean the outside of glass etc

i personally dont think theres and difference exept its safer with all the divs about.

jaysay 30-08-2009 10:43

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When I worked at Martholme Grange back in the late seventies we used plastic glasses on disco nights Thursday and Fridays, normal glasses on Saturday cabaret nights, I've no problem with using plastic in town centre pubs, but why every pub

keetah992000 30-08-2009 10:54

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These days, when we are trying to cut down on waste to help the enviroment ect I cant believe the governments general attitude towards introducing dipsosable drinking containers. It is beyond belief. When working in a small bar I would estimate about 300-400 drinks are served in 5-6 hours. Imagine the waste this would cause.

I used to work in a busy pub in the centre of Manchester and we had so called safety glasses there, they didnt shatter when broken. So instead of cleaning up a mess we were cleaning up people because breakingthe glasses left even more dangerous bases with sturdy long spikes sticking up, which people stood on because those that had broken them put them on the floor.

if anything they should be made out of a hybrid of the same glass windowscreen are made of - and completely shatter if given a strong blow.

Surely a tough polycarbonate glass would be like being hit with a brick. It may not cause cuts but will probably cause detrimental bone damage. ( This is the main reason that barrel glasses are no longer used as they are very strudy, don't shatter easily and were being used as "weapons" I can't remember if it is actually illegal to serve beer in these, but is is definitely frowned upon)

Just my first thoughts after briefly reading the article, but is it not another case of treating the symptom and not the cause?

jaysay 30-08-2009 10:59

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Originally Posted by keetah 992000 (Post 740158)
These days, when we are trying to cut down on waste to help the environment ect I cant believe the governments general attitude towards introducing disposable drinking containers. It is beyond belief. When working in a small bar I would estimate about 300-400 drinks are served in 5-6 hours. Imagine the waste this would cause.

I used to work in a busy pub in the centre of Manchester and we had so called safety glasses there, they didn't shatter when broken. So instead of cleaning up a mess we were cleaning up people because breaking the glasses left even more dangerous bases with sturdy long spikes sticking up, which people stood on because those that had broken them put them on the floor.

if anything they should be made out of a hybrid of the same glass windscreen are made of - and completely shatter if given a strong blow.

Surely a tough polycarbonate glass would be like being hit with a brick. It may not cause cuts but will probably cause detrimental bone damage.

Just my first thoughts after briefly reading the article, but is it not another case of treating the symptom and not the cause?

Think you've hit the nail on the head with your last statement, why is it that this government always throw the baby out with the bath water

Less 30-08-2009 13:00

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 740149)
JI bet your not in favour of plastic glasses,

I look at it from the point of view, does a pig worry about what it's trough is made of so long as he can get his snout in the swill?

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jaysay 31-08-2009 10:04

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 740168)
I look at it from the point of view, does a pig worry about what it's trough is made of so long as he can get his snout in the swill?

http://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s7978.gifhttp://www.tiptopglobe.com/skin/smile/s2905.gif

Never thought of it like that Less, must admit brings to mind that old saying from years ago "I'd drink it from a lime fillers clog":D

Ken Moss 06-02-2010 16:15

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All the pubs I go into regularly now pour my pint straight into a barrel glass. I have always preferred my ale that way and anyone that tries to force Brits to drink from plastic cups is going to have a battle on their hands.

Remember the u-turn on pounds and ounces?

shillelagh 06-02-2010 16:26

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they've come up with 2 alternatives so far ...

BBC News - Last orders for pint glass as we know it?

Retlaw 06-02-2010 22:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 740339)
Never thought of it like that Less, must admit brings to mind that old saying from years ago "I'd drink it from a lime fillers clog":D


Always heard it as a lime burners clog.
Retlaw.

Benipete 06-02-2010 22:31

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 785552)
All the pubs I go into regularly now pour my pint straight into a barrel glass. I have always preferred my ale that way and anyone that tries to force Brits to drink from plastic cups is going to have a battle on their hands.

Remember the u-turn on pounds and ounces?

I'm still paying in bushels and pecks:confused: s it an age thing?:p

Ken Moss 06-02-2010 23:20

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 785654)
I'm still paying in bushels and pecks:confused: s it an age thing?:p

They're a bit further back than I remember! I still prefer to buy things in imperial measures though and I was brought up learning metric but it's getting harder. I asked a young Asian lad on Blackburn market for a quarter of sarsaparillas over Christmas and he said, 'Quarter of what?' He said he got people asking for sweets like that but he couldn't understand it.

The day I'm forced to buy half a litre of beer at the bar is the day I give up drinking. For pity's sake, don't ever let that happen.....

DaveinGermany 07-02-2010 13:51

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 785663)
They're a bit further back than I remember! I still prefer to buy things in imperial measures though and I was brought up learning metric but it's getting harder. I asked a young Asian lad on Blackburn market for a quarter of sarsaparillas over Christmas and he said, 'Quarter of what?' He said he got people asking for sweets like that but he couldn't understand it.

The day I'm forced to buy half a litre of beer at the bar is the day I give up drinking. For pity's sake, don't ever let that happen.....

Believe me Ken you get used to it, but you don't ask for a half litre just ask for a big Beer. As to the situation with the glasses, plastic are a waste of time, they also break & cause cuts & those that stay whole after a few festivals/events they're so scratched you have to chuck them away.

The Glasses will be fine if they have these laminated ones, they can even keep the same shapes & sizes it's no big deal, the only difference I think will be that they're a little heavier & thicker, but that isn't such a bad thing either as the thicker they are the longer your Pint will stay cool, so it's swings & roundabouts really.

Ken Moss 07-02-2010 14:03

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Shillelagh posted a link to a very informative film that I hadn't seen so it looks like people are well on with looking for a solution.

I'll still be miffed if I have to give up my barrel glasses though. We're blessed with some fantastic clubs in Rishton and they've all still got them tucked away when I need them.

A mate of mine brews his own ale and it's pretty potent stuff but he's taken to giving me my 'pint' in a steiner and quietly topping it up when I'm not looking so I'm well aware of the power of those big German glasses!


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