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jules58 05-11-2009 22:21

origin of this country
 
I have looked throught many facts on who are the british people. the bristish people are In fact manly roman, and a bit of viking. That means we were!!!!!!! 80% of this mix.,
unless you came to this country in the 1950's there is no fact that one type of human is the sole inhabitant to this island.
But since the discovery of coal it was 80% roman and viking. That to me is the britsh people!!!!
BUT now it has gone, we are a mixed race country completely, there are big pockets of people who think that this is there country all over britian, from small estates to large ones all over the country, they will not interact with other people of this country with in the boundary of the last house that the origin has bought or rent, This country does not have no direct human inhabitance any more we are MIXED. But with a differance many of the people who came here and had families here still say they do not pleage there life to this country, like they will go back to there home land at some point, they never do go back. SO funny that is, POUND note spring to mind, thats why the people who are having hardship in there country travel all the way across europe to get here, word travels fast, WE ARE SOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The steet I live in have pulling together to help people out, from moving rubish to putting up selves to help with filling out paperwork, l thing its time to pull together for the people of accrington, lancashire, england. and see who want to live here and pay there due.............and make this island of england pround again

I could type comments about this all night, but its time to stop and for you to respond. BRING IT ON!!!!!:dummy:

MargaretR 05-11-2009 22:26

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Your understanding of early british history is flawed.:rolleyes:
I could put you right but the site doesn't need another diatribe of mine on ancient history (my pet subject which I have extensively researched)

jules58 05-11-2009 22:42

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760885)
Your understanding of early british history is flawed.:rolleyes:
I could put you right but the site doesn't need another diatribe of mine on ancient history (my pet subject which I have extensively researched)

Please put me right, buy all means, my facts are from the population from 1901-2007 from population archives of the UK census.please tell me the total of true britsh people from 1951 to 2008.

Regard
jules

MargaretR 05-11-2009 22:47

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You forgot to mention-
the beaker people (earliest known inhabitants identified by their pottery)
the celts (a gradual migration across the whole of Europe)
the 'roman auxiliaries' who were born in all the conquered nations of the empire
(few roman born romans actually stayed when the empire collapsed)
the angles
the saxons
the jutes
...to name only the ones before the Norman conquest

garinda 05-11-2009 22:53

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760885)
Your understanding of early british history is flawed.:rolleyes:
I could put you right but the site doesn't need another diatribe of mine on ancient history (my pet subject which I have extensively researched)

Margaret does have an interest in, and extensive knowledge of ancient Britain, and she's shared this before in relevant threads.

These islands were well populated by various ethnic groups, long before the Romans, and then later the Vikings, arrived.

I will agree though, that in common with most of the world's nations, we are genetically mongrels.

jules58 05-11-2009 22:55

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760892)
You forgot to mention-
the beaker people (earliest known inhabitants identified by their pottery)
the celts (a gradual migration across the whole of Europe)
the 'roman auxiliaries' who were born in all the conquered nations of the empire
(few roman born romans actually stayed when the empire collapsed)
the angles
the saxons
the jutes
...to name only the ones before the Norman conquest

Thankyou for enlighting me, I have all these inhabitants on my records too, But no Muslins..... thankyou for make my point concrete. WE ARE NOW VERY MIXED.

Eric 05-11-2009 22:56

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760892)
You forgot to mention-
the beaker people (earliest known inhabitants identified by their pottery)
the celts (a gradual migration across the whole of Europe)
the 'roman auxiliaries' who were born in all the conquered nations of the empire
(few roman born romans actually stayed when the empire collapsed)
the angles
the saxons
the jutes
...to name only the ones before the Norman conquest

I vaguely remember a show on the History Chanel, on which the arguement was made ... I think DNA analysis had something to do with it ... that rather than being predominantly Anglo Saxon, Britons were in fact Celtic ... :confused: Is this so? I haven't done the research that you have; so, I may be way off base.

garinda 05-11-2009 22:57

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760892)
You forgot to mention-
the beaker people (earliest known inhabitants identified by their pottery)
the celts (a gradual migration across the whole of Europe)
the 'roman auxiliaries' who were born in all the conquered nations of the empire
(few roman born romans actually stayed when the empire collapsed)
the angles
the saxons
the jutes
...to name only the ones before the Norman conquest

The Beaker people came from the low countries, and the history of Delft pottery, many centuries later, can be linked to their ancient forefathers.

MargaretR 05-11-2009 22:59

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760897)
Thankyou for enlighting me, I have all these inhabitants on my records too, But no Muslins..... thankyou for make my point concrete. WE ARE NOW VERY MIXED.

Not many christians in that list either - so what point were you trying to make by bringing religion into it:confused:

PS incidentally there is evidence that the long migration of celts originated from northern India
Linguists have found many welsh words have northern Indian counterparts/similarities

MargaretR 05-11-2009 23:04

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 760899)
The Beaker people came from the low countries, and the history of Delft pottery, many centuries later, can be linked to their ancient forefathers.

They were more widespread than that

Beaker culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Iberian peninsula has been argued as the most likely place of Beaker origin.

jules58 05-11-2009 23:05

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760900)
Not many christians in that list either - so what point were you trying to make by bringing religion into it:confused:

sorry to bring that in to it, if you have read my full sorry, i was making a point about the true inhabitants NOW!!! in this day and age, and the main points of this countrys goverment and who they swinging favor off..... WAR, IMMAGRANTS, FAMILYS!!!!

MargaretR 05-11-2009 23:07

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Are you a friend of Bagpuss?:D

cashman 05-11-2009 23:07

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reckon it aint hard to see the direction someone is trying to take this thread.:rolleyes:

garinda 05-11-2009 23:07

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 760898)
I vaguely remember a show on the History Chanel, on which the arguement was made ... I think DNA analysis had something to do with it ... that rather than being predominantly Anglo Saxon, Britons were in fact Celtic ... :confused: Is this so? I haven't done the research that you have; so, I may be way off base.


One of the most fascinating programmes I ever saw was Channel 4's 100% English.

100% English - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Carole Thatcher was mainly of middle eastern origin, if my memory serves me correctly, and righ-wing bigot Garry Bushell's genetic makeup was predominantly African, which was somewhat shocking for a white racist.

Most of it's on YouTube, but I can't access it at the moment.

MargaretR 05-11-2009 23:10

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I forgot the Nearthandels - they didn't die out, they interbred.
I have RH neg blood and ginger hair but I look better than they did;)

garinda 05-11-2009 23:30

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760904)
sorry to bring that in to it, if you have read my full sorry, i was making a point about the true inhabitants NOW!!! in this day and age, and the main points of this countrys goverment and who they swinging favor off..... WAR, IMMAGRANTS, FAMILYS!!!!

Who are the 'true inhabitant NOW'?

Could you be a little more specific, instead of talking in riddles?

Careless talk may cost lives, but at least it's understandable.

garinda 05-11-2009 23:32

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 760908)
I forgot the Nearthandels - they didn't die out, they interbred.
I have RH neg blood and ginger hair but I look better than they did;)

Look through the Gallery for further evidence.

:D

garinda 06-11-2009 00:16

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760880)
I have looked throught many facts on who are the british people. the bristish people are In fact manly roman, and a bit of viking. That means we were!!!!!!! 80% of this mix.,
unless you came to this country in the 1950's there is no fact that one type of human is the sole inhabitant to this island.
But since the discovery of coal it was 80% roman and viking. That to me is the britsh people!!!!
BUT now it has gone, we are a mixed race country completely, there are big pockets of people who think that this is there country all over britian, from small estates to large ones all over the country, they will not interact with other people of this country with in the boundary of the last house that the origin has bought or rent, This country does not have no direct human inhabitance any more we are MIXED. But with a differance many of the people who came here and had families here still say they do not pleage there life to this country, like they will go back to there home land at some point, they never do go back. SO funny that is, POUND note spring to mind, thats why the people who are having hardship in there country travel all the way across europe to get here, word travels fast, WE ARE SOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The steet I live in have pulling together to help people out, from moving rubish to putting up selves to help with filling out paperwork, l thing its time to pull together for the people of accrington, lancashire, england. and see who want to live here and pay there due.............and make this island of england pround again

I could type comments about this all night, but its time to stop and for you to respond. BRING IT ON!!!!!:dummy:

England's never been an 'island'.

Seems your British geography, as well as history, isn't that hot.

Please could I have one of your pound 'notes' as a prize, for pointing this fact out?

garinda 06-11-2009 00:19

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 760906)
reckon it aint hard to see the direction someone is trying to take this thread.:rolleyes:

If only the white is right brigade had people with more than two brain cells rubbing together, I'm sure they'd be able to put up a much better argument.

Eric 06-11-2009 00:38

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 760911)
Who are the 'true inhabitant NOW'?

Could you be a little more specific, instead of talking in riddles?

Careless talk may cost lives, but at least it's understandable.

Don't know about you, but ein Volk, ein Reich comes to mind:confused:

Eric 06-11-2009 00:42

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 760906)
reckon it aint hard to see the direction someone is trying to take this thread.:rolleyes:

About three goose steps to the right of Attilla the Hun;)

cmonstanley 06-11-2009 05:50

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dont forget about the strathclyde britons and picts:D

mattylad 06-11-2009 07:02

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So Tracy Beaker is descended from one of the fist known inhabitants? :D



(kids TV show)

Boeing Guy 06-11-2009 09:34

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Jules, I see we both have a similar passion, I fly Boeing's while you are a Aircraft Electrician.

That is where our similarities end. You fail to point out that for a long time in this country we were under the treat of Terrorism from the IRA, if memory does serve me right they were not Muslims. They may use religion to explain their actions, if it ever makes that right!!!, but the religion itself is not to blame.

Barrie Yates 06-11-2009 17:28

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Jules, Perhaps you should spend more time in perfecting - or even improving, your command of the English language. Your research is obviously very limited, and seriously flawed - please do not try and turn this in to a religious argument.

Benipete 06-11-2009 18:24

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 761042)
Jules, Perhaps you should spend more time in perfecting - or even improving, your command of the English language. Your research is obviously very limited, and seriously flawed - please do not try and turn this in to a religious argument.

Well I just can not Adam and Eve how this could possibly turn into a religious subject :hehetable

Barrie Yates 06-11-2009 18:36

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 761056)
Well I just can not Adam and Eve how this could possibly turn into a religious subject :hehetable

It shouldn't be, I agree, and that is what i was trying to point out - but you will see a number of references to religion before mine - if you trouble to read the whole thread.

SPUGGIE J 06-11-2009 19:40

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Religion is like politics you cant get away from it. As a nation of many diverse origins then should we question it s origins because at the end of the day we are all decendents of 7 African women.

Mancie 06-11-2009 23:10

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760897)
Thankyou for enlighting me, I have all these inhabitants on my records too, But no Muslins..... thankyou for make my point concrete. WE ARE NOW VERY MIXED.

jules.. have you heard of the date 1066?..and as regard to the "Romans" they did influence their culture on Britian but as for them spreading their genes to the general population it's doubtful.. and the Roman army were not your actual Romans.. they were an outfit of sub-contractors gained from as far as Iran and the Balkans.
Yet again some members seem to get mixed with race with religions...Islam is not a race it's a religion... Christianity is not a race it's religion.

Benipete 07-11-2009 00:45

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760897)
Thankyou for enlighting me, I have all these inhabitants on my records too, But no Muslins..... thankyou for make my point concrete. WE ARE NOW VERY MIXED.

Last time I looked Muslin was a fabric.Am I missing something?:confused:

jaysay 07-11-2009 08:55

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 761069)
Religion is like politics you cant get away from it. As a nation of many diverse origins then should we question it s origins because at the end of the day we are all decendents of 7 African women.

I was always told never talk about religion and politics in the pub, to me that was the best bit of advice I ever got, the only thing is football should have been tagged on the end too:D

Less 07-11-2009 10:55

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760880)
are In fact manly roman,

I would love to consider myself the ancestor of a 'manly Roman'.

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there are big pockets of people who think that this is there country all over britian, from small estates to large ones all over the country, they will not interact with other people of this country
Ah Yes, you must be talking about the Dingles, Norfolk and small pockets of Clayton, interbreeding is rumoured to be rife in these places!

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This country does not have no direct human inhabitance any more we are MIXED.
I and quite a few more think we can claim to be inhabitance,

In`hab´it`ance
n.1.The act of inhabiting, or the state of being inhabited; the condition of an inhabitant; residence; occupancy.

Yes, we are mixed however you just seem to be mixed up.

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But with a differance many of the people who came here and had families here still say they do not pleage there life to this country, like they will go back to there home land at some point, they never do go back. SO funny that is, POUND note spring to mind, thats why the people who are having hardship in there country travel all the way across europe to get here, word travels fast,
Nope can't make any sense from that part you got me there, Did they not insist that you learn English before you arrived on the Banana boat?

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WE ARE SOFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The steet I live in have pulling together to help people out, from moving rubish to putting up selves to help with filling out paperwork, l thing its time to pull together for the people of accrington, lancashire, england. and see who want to live here and pay there due.............and make this island of england pround again
I see the Scot's and the Welsh don't have much say in this according to you, why is that?
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I could type comments about this all night, but its time to stop and for you to respond. BRING IT ON!!!!!
You want a response?

What a load of gonad's.

Less 07-11-2009 11:08

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 761166)
I would love to consider myself the ancestor of a 'manly Roman'.

I think somehow I might have meant descendant and not 'ancestor'. Mind you I'm nearly old enough!:D

SPUGGIE J 07-11-2009 11:42

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 761173)
I think somehow I might have meant descendant and not 'ancestor'. Mind you I'm nearly old enough!:D

Maybe a few hundred years from now jules58 has seen in a crystal ball there will be a new Roman conquest. He will be the great great great great great great great great grandfarter of the new Ceaser in his view. :D

mani 07-11-2009 16:48

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damn those muslims - damn those immigrants - damn gordon brown - damn tony blair - damn anyone who doesnt feel the same way - damn illigals - but can we keep the kebab shops? pls?

SPUGGIE J 07-11-2009 16:51

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Originally Posted by mani (Post 761299)
damn those muslims - damn those immigrants - damn gordon brown - damn tony blair - damn anyone who doesnt feel the same way - damn illigals - but can we keep the kebab shops? pls?

ONLY AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP THE CHINESE INDIAN AND PIZZA TAKE AWAYS AS WELL!!!!!!!!!


When you think about it look what we take for granted has been imported by people who moved here.

Less 07-11-2009 17:32

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 761301)


When you think about it look what we take for granted has been imported by people who moved here.

Just about everything, except rainy weather & long may we continue to get diversity in our foods thanks to immigrants, who could possibly do without deep fried Mars bars imported from Bonnie Scotland?


SPUGGIE J 07-11-2009 18:31

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 761310)
Just about everything, except rainy weather & long may we continue to get diversity in our foods thanks to immigrants, who could possibly do without deep fried Mars bars imported from Bonnie Scotland?



Never tried em Less and have no intention of. Better off with a deep fried steak pie. :D

Eric 09-11-2009 06:00

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J (Post 761327)
Never tried em Less and have no intention of. Better off with a deep fried steak pie. :D

Between two slices of fried bread with lots of HP sauce on it .... mmmmm ..... and for dessert, double pudding, chips, and peas:theband:

accyweb 09-11-2009 09:05

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the thread starter has gone very quiet?

as he is picking on 'Muslins' (we know who you mean) let's have some stats :

Muslims contribute around £28 billion to the economy (through work and business).

Muslims are only around 3% of the population yet contribute a larger percentage in tax.

If all muslims were all to leave this country, they would take with them a lot of jobs, money and businesses, possibly OIL supplies.

The 'Aryan' race was Persian in origin ... and who are Persians?

Finally, there was a program last week on Ch 4 which showed that MIXED RACE people have an advantage in terms of genetics and if you go back 40 generations in any country, EVERYONE is mixed race.

garinda 09-11-2009 11:29

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Originally Posted by accyweb (Post 761589)

Muslims are only around 3% of the population yet contribute a larger percentage in tax.

Larger than whom?

Oh nevermind, I take your point, but you can prove any argument with 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'.

You'll probably only encourage the bigots to post that all mainland terrorist attacks in the last ten years, have been carried out by people who belonged 100% to one religion.

accyweb 09-11-2009 11:47

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 761614)
Larger than whom?

I meant by percentage of the population.

But as you say correctly, statistics can be manipulated so i'll let this one go.

garinda 09-11-2009 11:53

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Originally Posted by accyweb (Post 761615)

But as you say correctly, statistics can be manipulated so i'll let this one go.

They can.

Personally I can't remember ever seeing my religion mentioned on my tax returns.

cashman 09-11-2009 12:20

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Originally Posted by jules58 (Post 760880)
BRING IT ON!!!!!:dummy:


Re: origin of this country
the thread starter has gone very quiet? like ya said accyman, people seem to have brought it on,as requested by jules58, yet he seems to have absconded.:D

SPUGGIE J 09-11-2009 17:58

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 761580)
Between two slices of fried bread with lots of HP sauce on it .... mmmmm ..... and for dessert, double pudding, chips, and peas:theband:

Eric that aint too bad its when they put a mutton pie on a roll with brown sauce for their breakfast!!!!!

US Angel 09-11-2009 20:38

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Very interesting comments


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