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jaysay 11-11-2009 11:18

DNA Storage
 
BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | How long should DNA be kept on a database?

What's your opinion of the storage of DNA, he European Court of Human Rights as said its illegal to store DNA of people with no criminal convictions, the government are now trying to be able to keep these samples for 6 years. From my point of view if keeping DNA helps with fighting crime so be it, they can have a sample from me anytime

garinda 11-11-2009 12:31

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I firmly believe we should have a national DNA database, and think, like on so many other issues, Europe should keep it's beak out.

alan7554 11-11-2009 13:12

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the point is in this debate is that people,s DNA is being stored on a data base even if you have not commited any crime in the UK,as the situation now is that when ever you are arrested a DNA swab is automatically taken,if you are not charged with any offence or found NOT guitly your DNA sampl;e should be destryed or taken out of the system,this is a clear breach of human rights,only people convicted should have there DNA recorded,this country is becoming a police state

pipinfort 11-11-2009 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 762204)
the point is in this debate is that people,s DNA is being stored on a data base even if you have not commited any crime in the UK,as the situation now is that when ever you are arrested a DNA swab is automatically taken,if you are not charged with any offence or found NOT guitly your DNA sampl;e should be destryed or taken out of the system,this is a clear breach of human rights,only people convicted should have there DNA recorded,this country is becoming a police state


If you live on the right side of the law (as i do) why worry........they can have my DNA anytime..............

garinda 11-11-2009 13:40

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Originally Posted by pipinfort (Post 762206)
If you live on the right side of the law (as i do) why worry........they can have my DNA anytime..............

Same here, they're welcome to mine too.

Though I guess you're like me, and have never been arrested.

Unlike alan7554, who has been arrrested, and is on the Sex Offender's Register.

Some people would be wiser to shut up, rather than bleat on about human rights.

BERNADETTE 11-11-2009 13:45

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I have no objections to my DNA being stored:) And no I have not been arrested but would be quite willing to give a sample for a data base:)

Mancie 11-11-2009 13:47

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cor blimey Jaysay.. you agree with this government? don't get all confussed now!

garinda 11-11-2009 13:47

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Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 762204)
when ever you are arrested a DNA swab is automatically taken,if you are not charged with any offence or found NOT guitly

You were found guilty of a sexual offence against an underage girl.

Is it just an abuse of human rights when the person isn't guilty of a crime, unlike yourself?

Mancie 11-11-2009 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by alan7554 (Post 762204)
the point is in this debate is that people,s DNA is being stored on a data base even if you have not commited any crime in the UK,as the situation now is that when ever you are arrested a DNA swab is automatically taken,if you are not charged with any offence or found NOT guitly your DNA sampl;e should be destryed or taken out of the system,this is a clear breach of human rights,only people convicted should have there DNA recorded,this country is becoming a police state

yes.. and if anyone wants my DNA they can take it out of my face in the car park... I'm not a criminal so why would I want my DN:£ A. or finger tabs taken?

garinda 11-11-2009 13:53

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 762213)
yes.. and if anyone wants my DNA they can take it out of my face in the car park... I'm not a criminal so why would I want my DN:£ A. or finger tabs taken?

Which carpark is your face in?

Let me know I'll go and get it for you.

You'll then be able to stop talkin' out of your....

:D

Mancie 11-11-2009 14:37

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 762215)
Which carpark is your face in?

Let me know I'll go and get it for you.

You'll then be able to stop talkin' out of your....

:D

a carpark near you.. take it out of my face and I'll take it out of your trolly.. that is if it's got a ramp!

MargaretR 11-11-2009 14:39

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They can now replicate DNA, which means that it can be fabricated and planted at a crime scene.
I do not have total trust in the honesty of all policemen.
It seems that some here do.

garinda 11-11-2009 15:00

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 762220)
a carpark near you.. take it out of my face and I'll take it out of your trolly.. that is if it's got a ramp!

Threatening behaviour's an arrestable offence.

;)

Mancie 11-11-2009 15:08

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 762225)
Threatening behaviour's an arrestable offence.

;)

your mush could be deemed as a threat.. I reckon it's bordering on a charge of a disgrace to mankind...no charge this time I'll let you off with a caution you ugly ****.

Tealeaf 11-11-2009 15:09

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 762225)
Threatening behaviour's an arrestable offence.

;)

No...he's just having fun....a typical south london sweetie.

Mancie 11-11-2009 15:11

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 762229)
No...he's just having fun....a typical south london sweetie.

oh bollox it's chripy chripy cheap cheap

jaysay 11-11-2009 15:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 762211)
cor blimey Jaysay.. you agree with this government? don't get all confussed now!

Its not about agreeing wit this government Mancie, there are things don't by governments of any colour that are for the good of the majority of all the people, I actually think this is one of them,its not about party politics its about the common good

jaysay 11-11-2009 15:24

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 762229)
No...he's just having fun....a typical south london sweetie.

There's nout sweet about Mancie Tealeaf:D

Mancie 11-11-2009 15:30

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 762235)
Its not about agreeing wit this government Mancie, there are things don't by governments of any colour that are for the good of the majority of all the people, I actually think this is one of them,its not about party politics its about the common good

well i'm glad that's sorted... it's as if a great big Tory cost cutting machine just went over my head.. but in reality it won't

Less 11-11-2009 15:45

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Well children there seems to be opposing levels of bull manure talked on here about this subject so here's my interjection.

At the moment even those found innocent are swabbed and kept on record, that is surely naughty?

If found innocent anything such as this should be wiped out, removed, disposed of, done away with, Unless, we have a voluntary system in place.

I agree that because I have nothing to fear, take my DNA sample, then it can be checked and I can be proved innocent without being bothered by the 'electric shock' & other treatments Margaretr seems to fear from our Reasonably honest Police force, (not all rotten apples destroy the barrel, (yet another, Conspiracy)).

However until a voluntary system is put into place, (and I'll be one of the first in the queue), if someone is proved innocent then no-one has the right to keep such personal information.

:cool:

Mancie 11-11-2009 15:52

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well looks like I'm the only sober bod on here..so I'll agree with the drunk bloke..less has got it right this time.

Less 11-11-2009 16:02

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 762243)
well looks like I'm the only sober bod on here..so I'll agree with the drunk bloke..less has got it right this time.

And you have proof of that statement because.....?

How much lower can my opinion of you go?

Yes I drink, I admit that on site very often, but I don't lower myself to your state, drunk or sober you are beyond the Pale.

Love and kisses by the way!:D

webglynne 11-11-2009 16:24

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 762225)
Threatening behaviour's an arrestable offence.

;)

What about a clear death threat?

Mancie 11-11-2009 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 762245)
And you have proof of that statement because.....?

How much lower can my opinion of you go?

Yes I drink, I admit that on site very often, but I don't lower myself to your state, drunk or sober you are beyond the Pale.

Love and kisses by the way!:D

effin wierdo ..pots and pints of bitter ...try and kiss me or anyone I come in contact with it will be short trip up the humpty dumpy path to the jammy dodger rodeo..if you get my drift

Royboy39 11-11-2009 17:20

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Sounds like your falling foul of the 'High Profile Mob' Mancie.
Best of luck.

Mancie 11-11-2009 17:36

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well thats me not getting a picture of a train set..or a cat ..or a matress or a back door ah well got to admit I'm gutted

MargaretR 11-11-2009 18:01

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 762271)
well thats me not getting a picture of a train set..or a cat ..or a matress or a back door ah well got to admit I'm gutted

When the nasty backbiting people are excluded from your life it does feel peaceful:D -- join the club:D

Less 11-11-2009 18:55

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Originally Posted by Royboy39 (Post 762266)
Sounds like your falling foul of the 'High Profile Mob' Mancie.
Best of luck.

Welcome back, it looked for a while that you were going to spend all your time just viewing who's on line and not joining in.
:D

MargaretR 25-11-2009 06:54

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DNA is more important than just a means to identify
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accyman 04-12-2009 14:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 762215)
Which carpark is your face in?

Let me know I'll go and get it for you.

You'll then be able to stop talkin' out of your....

:D

wouldnt be the first time youv extracted DNA on a carpark would it lol

allegedly :D


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