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Rape charge for two boys, aged 10, over assault on eight-year-old | Mail Online

10 year olds being charged with rape, whats the world coming to, at that age I thought it was just for peeing, never mind anything else:(

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We need good old fashioned values again...won't happen though

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been saying that fer years, seems funny though how these 10 yr olds are old enough to charge, yet those older girls in accy are too young.:mad:

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Don't think that the kind of values you are talking of are old fashioned. I think they are always current and always of value .... to think of them as old fashioned makes it seem as if they belong to old farts like me and Cashy:eek::D, and have somehow become out of date.

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TV programmes set the standards.
Dissolute, materialistic celebrities are the role models.
A generation has been brainwashed.
A population gets the type of society it deserves
- we earned this by neglect

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Nothing new there then :rolleyes:

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It is not all one sided - believe me

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Nothing is ever one sided.

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Never believe them when they say that as you get older you go back to your childhood, well I do now Beni:D

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You lost me with that one:confused:Are you saying that the young girl will not remember the ordeal or that in years to come she will be an old women who has lost her marbles and made it all up?

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Page 3 of the Sun. The Daily (porn) Star. Trollops like Jordan who considers herself a celebrity! Reality trash TV. The list is endless. It appears that we are currently living in a violent and abusive, media driven society that can only result in the total breakdown of civilised behaviour right across the board.

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still trying to beat your personal best at how high you can pee up the toilet wall then eh ? :eek:

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accyman, there will be one or two down accy tonight trying to beat there personal bests, it,s the infamous mad friday,and thats just the women.:eek:

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I wish:D

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I was generalising Beni,:rolleyes: just saying that now I feel like I was in my younger days. only this week I went for a look outside and saw a little lad sat on the kerb crying his eyes out, I asked what was wrong, he just said he couldn't do what the big lads do, I agreed and sat down and cried with him:D

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Put a bench there and I'll come and join you.:hehetable On a good day that is:D:D

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I haven't seen a T.V. Programme or a materialistic celebrity, suggesting or promoting the rape of an eight year old by two ten year olds, that is a ridiculous statement.

If a generation is to blame, which one? As part of the older generation can I suggest it could be us? We brought up the generation that followed, some claim that generation don't make fit parents and therefore this is one of the results, perhaps what is happening is because we didn't do it right?
Parts of Society are to blame not just the people of any age that commit such awful crimes, but the members of the establishment that took away the powers of the courts to punish such crimes.

I agree, we have earned this by neglect, but the 8 year old and to some extent the 10 year olds are victims of that neglect and it should make us all bow our heads in shame that such a thing has happened, (again?).

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Beat you to it Beni, its already there mate:D

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Standards of behaviour have degenerated from generation to succeeding generation. The media? Generations accepted that and the subsequent lowering of standards.
Law & Order? The same story and we voted for the idiots who made the laws and saw to the enforcement of them.
I was no teen angel, but I had respect for my elders and property.
IMHO, parents are responsible for the behaviour of their children, set them the example that you expect of them, and lets get rid of these stupid laws, and the lawmakers who introduced them, that prevent parents from chastising their own children.

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Nail bang on the head.

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A major part of the problems today arise from the fact that half the kids being born are unlikely to know who their parents are! Hence the inbred morons currently trawling our streets with their pit-bull terriers in tow!

Bring back George Pratt and the birch!

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Do you not realise Barry these inbred morons have rights:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::( more flaming rights than you and me:(

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Imagine what it's like for the boys and girls in blue (or today's dayglow yellow) when they drag these scum off the streets only to see them rewarded with 'community service' by the politically correct magistrates. If it weren't so serious it would be laughable.

:D:D:D

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whilst agree about pc magistrates, they have a maximun n minimum tariff, the law allows to sentence, twas not them decided that.:)

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Ya cashy but there's nothing to stop them referring any case to a higher court if they don't feel able to deal out the right sentence

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Again it depends on the crime mate, some they can't commit to sessions etc.

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:uzi::behead: :flamethroMaybe if it was decreed no longer ecomical to keep prisoners in the lap of luxury, the powers that be may consider reverting to proper punishments, vis: making the punishment fit the crime.

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make the punishment fit the crime, bring back the birch and cat-o-nine tails.
none of these kids of today know the meaning of respect, sorry about 10% do.
but who is to blame, us!!!!!!! why, because we voted in the morons who made the laws and stopped us from punishing our kids with a smack. it never did me any harm, but taught me to understand right from wrong and respect for my elder's...

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I don't see how the odd smack would have prevented this crime.. and I don't see bringing back the "birch" as a punishment that would deter anyone from sexual crimes..you are talking crap.

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I disagree Mancie most of these feral youths are cowards and if they thought for one minute they were going to get a good hiding, they'd think twice about their actions. I've often said that birching one of these out of control youths would hurt one, but put the fear of god into thousands more

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I maybe wrong cashy but I think that any accused person can still elect trial by jury, even for the most trivial crime, so in these cases surely that sentence can also be referred to crown court

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You are plainly living in cloud cuckoo land on this one, Mancie. 'An eye for an eye' and 'A tooth for a tooth' are biblical quotations which, based upon current standards of behaviour, are clearly overlooked when meting out justice. My sympathies lie with the victim, not the perpetrator and, before you ask, yes, I have been a victim of a hammer attack myself - and seen the perpetrator treated with the politically correct version of kid-gloves that left me reeling in disbelief.

Justice my a**e!

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Unless the Law has changed mate that was never the case, as far as i'm aware.:confused:

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Agree with this ... a whole crock full of crap.

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Another thing just crossed my mind ... things do cross my mind when I am happily destroying brain cells .... all this bull about corporal and capital punishment, eye for an eye, "make the punishment fit the crime"; and using the term "human rights" as a pejorative .... Seems like thousands of your young men and women are fighting in Afghanistan in order to bring to the Afghanis those human rights some of you hold in such low esteem. (There's a bunch of Canucks there too, trying to do the same thing) Some people's views on flogging etc. seem to be more in tune with the Taliban than with citizens of a proud democracy, one which is a model for the free world. So let's hear it for cutting off the hands of thieves.:theband::rolleyes:

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re. use of the Birch .......seem to remember the Isle of Man had the birch for years after it was banned in the rest of the UK and think everyone who ever visited on holiday during the traditional wakes weeks will tell there was never much trouble , not even from the Glasgow 'gangs" who had a bit of a fearsome reputation , just the knowledge that it was on the books and WOULD be used was enough to keep most folks in line. No idea what specific crimes it covered but I'm thinking hooliganism and general social disruption were included . :D :D

intersting article CORPORAL PUNISHMENT: BIRCHING IN THE ISLE OF MAN: legal position 1972

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it was fer such things was reason i never went near the place, even when mates went fer hols one year.:eek:

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See cashy it put the fear of god in you mate just thinking about it:rolleyes::D

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You seem to be overlooking the fact that under 'New Labour' we no longer live in a true democracy. B'Liar saw to that when he changed the political boundaries in order to give his party electoral advantage over anyone opposed to his views - and look at the predicament that we are now faced with as a result of the 'Red Flag Flyer's' excuciating policies!

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it sure as hell did,once met a guy that had been, not a pretty site.;)