Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

There I was googling for a bit of topsoil, feeling highly ambitious after my potato success last year.

What came up as my top search?

Hyndburn Life, now some of you might not remember that site, it only cost somewhere around £600,000 to set up and like a lead balloon it fell, possibly because the area was already covered by a website that served us extremely well, or perhaps because when people tried to become member's, half a million plus software wouldn't allow people to register.

We had the main man for Hyndburn telling us, if we hadn't accepted the cash and wasted it in this manner, (Ooop's sorry I meant used it), we wouldn't have had the cash.

It must be 4? years since we were told it was closed but couldn't actually have the servers cut off because then we, (the residents would have to pay back what was given as a grant).

Having found it again today, I wonder, are the servers grinding away in some long forgotten cupboard? If so maybe we should save a little more money by being Humane and finally pulling the embarrasing plug?
:rolleyes:

For those of you morbid enough in your curiosity:-

Hyndburn Life | Hyndburn Life Homepage

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teh way this thing is surviving we may need to resurect fred dibnah from teh dead to pull it down :)

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Well at least the European Union isn't wasting our money spending on silly projects. At least our massive net contribution is worth it.

Oh, wait...

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Well, thanks for that andrewb, I'm really happy now that you've told me that we managed to waste our own money rather than it being a grant.
:(

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i hope theres no stanley fans reading this .. just to have a look on their bit of hyndburn life ... they'll definately pull the plug ..

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I'm here to make you feel better. :D

I do have an @hyndburnlife e-mail address now. I do encourage you to sign up and get your moneys worth! :p

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no thanx they will probably be reading any accounts set up on their service lol

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As I have already said, it was announced that the site was declared defunct, finished, no longer with us, fortunately at no cost to the local populace, then you come on and declare our Wondrous leader to be mistaken, and actually sign up with something that is in the past tense just because the plug hasn't been pulled!

A really good bit of forward thinking from such a juvenile with 'far thinking', on the pulse, person, have you any further examples of wasted logic?
:confused:

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do you think theyre getting a bit ahead of themselves:



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I haven't declared anyone mistaken. I've no idea about the current funding if there is any, only that the original was apart of a European Union grant.

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Well, o.k. explain why you signed up for an email address? was it to show how ridiculous it is that such a barren site is still in existence, (if only because by more luck than judgement it hasn't crashed from neglect), or to show some strange form of loyalty that says, 'I want to be alone?' 'cos who the heck will contact you on such a stupid email address?

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Come, come, let's be factual.

It was in fact only £591,000.00 of taxpayer's money that Hyndburn Borough Council wasted on this white elephant.

Row flares over £591,000 spent on outdated website - News - Accrington Observer

Costly website a ‘desperate failure’ - News - Accrington Observer

I wonder what Roy's start up costs were, for setting up the successful community website that is Accy Web?

:rolleyes:

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Everyone needs somewhere where they can feel special.

In the Kingdom of the Blind,
the One-Eyed Man Is King

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I could probably tell you, if I looked through my credit card receipt's but it would involve a lot of searching to be accurate, I do remember my credit limit at the time was only £200 and I had used most of that to buy fag's and drink that week, any how what was left over he used.
:D

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I signed up to the site to see if it still worked. Lighten up.

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I am being light, obviously not 'lite' enough.
:D

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So Accy Web probably cost around 1/1000th of that, £59.10?

Just think what you could have done with the change left over?

Still, it's only money that was wasted...people's hard earned taxes, but only money at the end of the day, and as our council knows, that grows on trees.

No matter how much you send 'em, they'll always use it wisely.

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At the time I was working and often lived beyond my means, so I was probably digging deeply into my credit card myself, I would knock the 10p off your estimate so that we can't be accused of exaggeration, after all back then he did use freeware type software not this cutting edge, 'look Dad I'll update the software but not until I can catch the mod's when their all busy', cutting edge software.
:cool:

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Just a thought though - the money that was 'wasted', what was it actually spent on?

Hardware - possibly bought from a local supplier
Software - probably a national one, so we'll gloss over this one
Staff wages - all local people which means that people were paid a wage and it was spent in local shops in the local economy

I'm not trying to justify it, because I don't think there's any doubt that it didn't work, but just trying to play devils advocate and look at how 'wasted' money, isn't actually as 'wasted' as you might think. Some people who live locally earned money, which put bread on their table and clothes on their back.

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It's 'wasted' period, if it didn't fulfill it's brief, provinding a community website for Hyndburn, and never got off the ground because of the apathy of our council.

£591,000.00 would provide an awful lot of bread, on even the greediest of glutton's table.

It would be interesting to see an actual breakdown of where the money was spent, by whom, and on what.

You never know, perhaps an enterprising youngster, with an interest in local politics, might helpfully use the Freedom of Information Act to find out the actual spending details.

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You think that's bad? Just go and look at the Stanley section on the HBC council leader's own site...


Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Accrington stanley

...words fail me. :(

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As for 'staff wages', if that's the case, if I'd employed anyone so incompetent, they'd have more likely received a boot up the backside, back to the dole queue, rather than any wages, considering the shoddiness at the way it was so infrequently, and badly updated, and considering how little time it was actually active.

The whole sorry, expensive fiasco is shameful.

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Don't!

We must stop proofreading, and giving them time to correct their mistakes.

Mind you, it took ten years to get the infamous Accriwotton changed on Cllr. Britcliffe's BBC C.V.

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There's also quite a few factual inaccuracies, but I won't go into those, as I don't want to bore the non-Stanley fans on here.

However, do me a favour, Rindy, and listen to the heavy rock song on there. Are they really singing the word I think they're singing at 2.00 minutes? :eek:

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I think the idea was that us, the great people of Accrington, would keep it updated, once the site was up and running. Unfortunately, it didn't capture the imagination and so no one used it, thus in turn, no one updated it so it didn't contain much information.

I'm just trying to find a positive because that's my way. :D

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I still find it a little odd that here's no link to the local community website, Accrington Web, on his link page.

Councillor Peter Britcliffe - Interesting links

Though there is a handy link for Hyndburn Theatre & Events Guide, which takes you to H.B.C.'s website
...but sadly it doesn't work.

Oh well, what can you expect?

At least an effort was made, so that's good.

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I prefer to see thing in real terms, 20/20 vision clarity, incase things like facts are missed. That's just my way.

Let's try and work out what the financial costs would have been, if the good people of Hyndburn had taken it to their hearts, and if say it had been properly marketed, and they'd regularly 'updated' it themselves.

That's right, nothing.

No 'staff wages'.

Zilch.

Nowt.

In fact that wouldn't have taken one penny of the £591,000.00 they'd be given of tax payer's money.

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Oh Mr. Wynonie, you go to the top of the class!

Yes, you are quite right.

The leader of Hyndburn Borough Council has on his website a song with the foulest four letter swear word, there for every man, woman, and child to listen to.

Hold the front page!

Peter 'silly cow' Britcliffe in 'F' word shocker...uncovered on a community based website, that has cost the tax payer nowt.

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I'm not going to link the video, as this is a family forum, but the link to his site is there.

Please do not listen to the song, if you are offended by foul swearing.

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It's almost like he's put a load of stuff on about Stanley, to appear in a favourable light to the people and fans, but has no idea what is actually on there.

Even if it was posted by himself, in his third person guise, it's his website, and he's responsible.

Not in my name.

Disgraceful.

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so whats new about the guy?:rolleyes:

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If the foul video suddenly disappears from his site, which it hopefully will, so no innocent children are tainted by it, and anyone wants to see what was on it, someone in the media say, I have the featured video safely secured, where it is out of harms way.

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Some people are really just a liability, and their own worst enemy.

I genuinely feel sorry for Conservative activists in Hyndburn, they don't exactly get the best materials to work with.

Westminster?

The Tower of London would be a kinder, safer solution, for us...and himself.

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To be fair, I think he probably gave someone else the task of putting the Stanley video together. I was taught by the same English teachers at both St Peters and AGS and I'm convinced that he couldn't have written the semi-literate drivel that passes for captions.

As for the offending song, I can only assume he hasn't listened to it.

What amuses me is that the site's been up and running for at least two years and there's been no furore about it before. You'd think with the many visitors that a council leader's site receives, someone would've noticed... ;)

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Sorry Gayle no money spent locally, the site 'constructed' by a Manchester firm that was above a Barbers:-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/94586-post135.html

The shame is the link now shows that error 404 do you suppose these 'software Engineers', took the money and ran?
If so may I just say enjoy your early retirement lads, nice work if you can get it, we would all do the same if offered the same chance.

The standard of the sites poor coding was also discussed:-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/92838-post106.html

& The site was announced to the world in the Obbo', which managed to draw this comment from Acrylic Bob:-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/93033-post116.html

If you read the whole of that thread I think you will come to the conclusion that the money was, wasted.
:(

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[quote=garinda;780383]It's 'wasted' period, if it didn't fulfill it's brief, provinding a community website for Hyndburn, and never got off the ground because of the apathy of our council.

£591,000.00 would provide an awful lot of bread, on even the greediest of glutton's table.

It would be interesting to see an actual breakdown of where the money was spent, by whom, and on what.
So would I, how much does it actually cost to create a website, wages for the designer, cost of hosting the website. I think £10,000 is too much
never mind £591,000. Some one is laughing all the way to the bank, and some of our local bigwigs need to get a grip on reality, and do a proper job, instead of filling offices with made up jobs & time wasters.

Retlaw.

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You, me, or anyone else with any common sense at all, would at least check what was put on our own personal website.

I certainly would.

The odd link to the H.B.C. site that doesn't work is an embarrassment.

Accriwooton/Hywndbun is a laughable faux pas.

Having a video on your own personal website, which clearly features the f-word, is very sloppy.

Like you say, it's been there for ages. Obviously not many Stanley fans are Britcliffe fans, no matter what trite guff he puts on there, trying to appear supportive.

The f-word, on a site accesible to anyone, of any age?

You can be damn sure it wouldn't be there, not in my name.

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[quote=Retlaw;780480]Well we're informed by the man who funded Roy, that Accy Web took about sixty quid, give or take a tenner or so, to set up.

Which would leave rather a lot of change out of £591,000.00.

Well £590,940.00 to be precise.

Enough to employ a couple of people to run it for years, some marketing, making sure everyone in the borough knew about, or could access it.

There'd even be enough change to provide a few butties and balloons, and have a launch party.

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[quote=garinda;780484]Rindy can I just tell you, I didn't actually fund Roy, I was only joking when I mentioned him using my credit card, the figure arrived at between you and I was plucked out of the air, though no doubt, is nearer to an accurate amount than £600,000 odd for setting up a website!:D

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So.. did all the £600k of the fund go towards this website? I can't understand how a company or council would charge and pay that much.

If they do, I've clearly made a career mistake. :D

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i can understand it andrew, don't sound that incredible when yer as owd as me.;) aint saying it did, but saying owts believeable wi politicians.:rolleyes:

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I would assume that the Council obtained several quotes for the website before signing a contract with the people who actually carried out the work.
I wonder what some of the rejected quotes were?
A figure of £10000 has been mentioned and that would be about right for a website like that. There would be ongoing costs but even if the site had taken off and a huge photo library was created, it would never have cost more than £500 per year.

In the real world, it would take many years to reach the final total.

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You're right, of course. It's simply professional to check anything that goes out under your own name in the most minute detail.

It also says a lot about his attitude towards Stanley, too, despite his grandoise words about the importance of the club to the borough.

And, quite frankly, it does him no credit at all. :(

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A video, with lyrics that say, 'If ya wanna fight just step inside the ring'. I doubt very much any media would be interested in that. Only a select few individuals, motivated by getting one up on Councillor Britcliffe, without having established the facts. :rolleyes:

Oh you do get yourself in a giddy mood. That is twice in a week that excitement has got ahead of you.

Silly billy.

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I doubt we will ever know what the rejected quotes were.


Can I just ask, how do you know that £10k is 'about right'?

Especially as it was a site never fit for purpose?

In the real world since Roy started Accyweb he has moved on from using free software and renting space on someone else's servers to running two servers of his own which because of the amount of space taken by everything are upgraded sometimes as quickly as after 18 months.
The software isn't cheap, he is planning another upgrade for that has all ready purchased it just doesn't have time to install it due to work commitments.

Although these and sundry other overheads have to be paid for, I doubt very much that even though the site has been running since 2003 the total expenditure would be anything like that figure, if it was he just wouldn't be able to afford it.
:D

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I've saved the version that's appeared for the last few years.

;)

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ok Less have you got inside information on what the accy observer is going to print this week?

Only asking seeing as on page 8 of this weeks accy observer theres a little piece about this website!!!!

Its either inside information or hes pyschic .. either of them think though i'll stick with the other one choice .. someones been reading accyweb again .. and sticking it the accy observer ..

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Haven't seen it, can't find it on their site, give me a clue.

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from this weeks accrington observer neatly typed out by me just for you less ... :D:D:D By the way its on page 8 ...

WEBSITE IS A 'WASTE OF MONEY'

A labour councillor has branded a community website a 'waste' and called for it to be taken down.

The Hyndburn Life portal was first launched in 2003 with the aim of providing online information about services available to some of the borough's most deprived wards.

But the website has failed to attract many visitors and in 2006, was branded a waste of money by labour leader councillor graham jones.

At a meeting of the full council on tuesday the website once more came under fire.

Councillor Jones said "They spent £700,000 across the country on this website but the leader tried to say it was a government failure. Can he tell me when will this waste be removed from the web so we will all have done with it?"

Council leader Peter Britcliffe disputed councillor Jones' figures. He replied "the figure was not £700,000, that is another cock-eyed idea. It was a measure which was done by the government and it was brought to every borough and city to make information more accessible. But they tried it too late and it failed here, just like it failed everywhere else."

Cash to fund the project consisted of £75,000 from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, £266,000 from the single regeneration budget and a further £250,000 from the European regional development fund.


Now i need a brew .. especially after seeing mr britcliffes face peering out on page 14 ...

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Well, thanks for that, I had no prior knowledge of this, I think what must have happened is that because it had been discussed a few people had been to the website to have a look for themselves and that could have brought it up googles list so when I asked about topsoil we got the following interpretation:-

Top soil= manure,

manure= pile of sheet,

pile of sheet=Hyndburn lite.

:D

The time line seems wrong to me though, it's claimed to have been launched in 2003, but, the thread I put links to was saying that it went 'live' in 2005, so what happened during the 2 years between launch and it blocking new members from signing in, Er' I mean going public?

:confused:

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i dont know .. i only typed out what the accy observer said ...

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Shillelagh, I don't have an Observer yet. Did you make a typo when you wrote 'country'? If you didn't then this makes me more confused. Was it our council that spent £600,000, or was it a government scheme across the country that cost £600,000? :S

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excuse me .. im a typist i dont make typing mistakes .. i always check ..

anyway in the accy observer it says country .. its on page 8 .. so when you get it tomorrow check it for yourself ..

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Was only asking as it didn't seem to make sense as I didn't think 'country' had been mentioned before. I believe you! :D

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now if accy observer has got it wrong i cant be held responsible for them .. but i only typed what i read ...

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Wow Less do you think that others do not read all the posts posted before? Shame on them!

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What an idiot, new to Social websites are you?

You are starting to become a little like piles, rather irritating and of no use to anyone.;)

I get the feeling you have joined the site not to converse with others, but to to bring us all into line with your petty way of thinking.
:(

Please do not think you are unique, there have been others before you and when you finally realise it is you that is out of step not the rest of us, you will go the same way as they did, save us the aggravation, go now, or if you want we can start you your very own thread exclusive to you and you can spend your time in there arguing with yourself.

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Sadly wasting the public's hard earned money seems to be common aim of some, as witnessed over the years, and this quotes from a Tory supporter.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/n...reply&p=132990

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One of the featured residents on the site, even though he apparently lives in Manchester, was the crimper and snipper who suggested in the press that Accrington should have a Gay Pride parade. The one who also slapped the Asian girl shop assistant.

I was going to give the link in the recommended hairdresser thread.

Though sadly this is no longer possible.

Oh well, at least the girl who wants a hairdresser won't get a slap, if she didn't give him a big enough tip.

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The Government gave the money to the Council for the Council to come up with ideas. The council match funded it with European money we had been allocated.

It was 100% a Council decision and it says that in the proposal .

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If only there was some of the £591,000.00 left, that was given to be used for community websites.

Costly website a ‘desperate failure’ - Accrington Observer

It could have been used to provide technological help...for a month or two.

:rolleyes::D

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£591,000???

It is interesting to note that none of that money came directly from Hyndburn Council but how can that figure possibly be justified? Millions of people around the world host fantastic and vastly informative websites for a pittance but this was passed through as a good use of tax revenue and value for money??

Let's just work on the principle that an administrator works two hours a day on maintaining the site on a generous wage of £10 per hour (within which I'll include the cost of the domain name per day) you could run a website for over 80 years.

Even if someone was employed full-time on a wage of £15,000 per year just to update it you could still keep it going for over 39 years for that price.

I'm disgusted with every councillor who voted in favour of this proposal, it is an absolute disgrace.

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Oh dear, I wish I'd not brought out this particular mouldy old chesnut now.

:rolleyes::D

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I'm glad you did. Any more instances of ludicrous waste that we might all be interested in hearing about again?

(Can opening......worms....cannot be.......contained!!!!)

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I haven't got time to read through all the 'threads started by garinda' right now, as Jezzer's about to start, and it's lie detector results day this morning.

:D

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Just to let you know Ken, you're on one of the:-

But with hidden costs such as software updates & Running servers to give it enough space, the bill comes to quite a large pittance each month.

If it wasn't for the regular donations from some members the site would not be here.
:)

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And the Mods have just put in for a 20% wage rise too
So we need all the Donations we can get.:)
Please help the poor site and the Mods:D

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Oh, I'm sure it's not as simple as I implied it to be but did no one look at that figure and wonder if it was just a tad on the expensive side?

Accyweb is a prime example of a great website, as you just pointed out Less. I use it every day and have started promoting it to residents of Rishton as something they might be very interested in having a look at and getting involved with.

It's a superb central community resource for Hyndburn, well done to all.

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You're welcome Ken.

Accrington Web

:D

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I'll cut you a cheque....

But there we have a figure of £200 per month to host the site. Let's be generous and say £250 per month plus put your wages up to £17k per year and have two of you running it full time.

Still means that you've got a website you can run for 15 years for that cost.

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I will apologise now, the biggest saving the site has is the mod's they do their thankless task for nothing, there are NO wages drawn against accyweb, it was started for what it still is, like, (and not so like), minded people getting together and having discussions.

I think it's time we went back on thread, rindy gave you a link for the report on the council site, maybe we can continue over there?

:D

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I don't think the cost was JUST for Hyndburn. It's still ridiculously expensive, but then government projects always are. They never seek to get the best value. Why bother when it's not their money. :rolleyes:

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Unfortunately Andrew, that's how it reads. If you can direct me to information that states otherwise I'll gladly take a look and reappraise things.

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The people of Hyndburn certainly didn't get value for money, when the £591,000.00, given to our council to facilitate a community website, was wasted on the dismal, and now defunct, Hyndburn Life website.

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I assume it is national thing simply because of the huge cost. I don't think it's fair to blame just the council for the waste of money though. All the funding came directly from the office of the deputy PM, the single regeneration budget and the European regional development fund. They requested that Hyndburn council have the site, and offered the cash.

The most shocking thing is this:

"The Portal was to be a project that broke new grounds in IT, but unfortunately rapidly developing technologies such as Ebay, Amazon, Facebook etc. made it obsolete almost at the point that it was launched."

Sites like Ebay, Amazon, that already existed before the project was embarked on! Quite how Hyndburnlife sought to replicate those sites, I don't know...

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'Assume', 'think'.


Personally I find facts a more useful tool, when discussing an issue.

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The council votes on how money is spent so stating that it's not really their fault because it was given to them is a very, very poor excuse. It's the equivalent of a sickly child throwing away £25 on sweets and then blaming their parents for giving them birthday money.

I know that the Hyndburn Labour party budget meetings contained lengthy debates about the best way of spending money and sums that were many orders of magnitude less than £591k were very closely scrutinised. Surely the same principle should be applied by those in power when spending public money?

Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to blow it in a cavalier fashion.

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The budget is well scrutinised (and costed unlike some Labour budgets of past!). The money was only to be used for the website. I'm not making excuses. I also didn't say it was their fault. I said it wasn't JUST the council's fault. It's not the same as the scenario you suggest, as government knew what it was getting spent on, and how much, since they proposed it and offered the cash.

re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

Yes, community based websites.

On which our council frittered away £591,000.00, with their pitiful effort, the now dead as a Dodo, Hyndburn Life.

re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

Fair points, but without getting into the whole tedious 'budgets of the past' debate, someone in control at HBC should have stood up and had the balls to say that it was a waste of money.

I don't know the particular ins and outs of this incident but we're talking about over half a million pounds of our money being approved for a project that was obviously wildly overpriced to start with.

If you want to get political about it, the Tories have had control in Hyndburn for some time so it would have been they who had the deciding vote.

£591,000. That figure is probably somewhere near to what you will earn (after tax) in the rest of your working life, Andrew.

Re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

You're probably right. As for a vote, they weren't spending council money, I don't know if one took place. One of the councillors might know.

Re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

Money is money, when the source is people's hard earned taxes.

Period.

Re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

nope hyndburn council is pretty thrifty when it comes to teh old purse strings infact you could describe their money management as carrying water in a bucket full of holes which is a good thing isnt it ?

Re: Hyndburn Life - Well Would You Believe it?
 

Out of interest, does anyone know what the budget for HBC's own website is?