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sm_counsell 24-01-2010 15:57

Too much iron?
 
Next time you go for a check-up or if you are feeling tired all the time, ask your doc. to control the iron ( simple blood test). The most common genetic disorder around (identified in 1996) iron overload, is extremely common in northern Europeans and people of Irish and Welsh descent, but many doctors don't know much about it., and as the treatment doesn't involve a lot of money, the pharmaceutical companies tend to keep quiet!!
I found out by chance(thanks to the Internet) and have managed to put cousins in the UK on guard so I thought I'd pass on info through this great forum
No cure, but all you have to do is give blood and keep a check on blood levels.

If anyone ie interested see: www.haemochromatosis.org/uk

K.S.H 24-01-2010 16:00

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Or better still here
Haemochromatosis Society UK :D

Less 24-01-2010 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 781946)
and as the treatment doesn't involve a lot of money, the pharmaceutical companies tend to keep quiet!!

Conspiracy Theory Alert!


Drug Companies like all major Corporations are run by accountant's these days, they are tighter than a Scotsman's Sporran, If anybody lives by the adage 'many a mickle makes a muckle', they do, if they think there is part of a farthing to be made they will go for it, they won't ignore something profitable!
:rolleyes:

Benipete 24-01-2010 17:13

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Just when I was feeling better.:spank::bangh8::bangh8:

emamum 24-01-2010 19:55

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my irons pretty good, had it tested few weeks ago :)

accyman 24-01-2010 21:11

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my iron is terrible i eat loads of liver and all the other things you do to help iron but no matter what i do or try i cant get that sticky stuff off the bottom of it and it keeps sticking to my clothes especialy when ironing t-shirt's.

i did find however after a bit of googleing that the situation could have been avoided if i had tured my printed t-shirt's inside out before ironing them :)

jaysay 25-01-2010 09:35

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Somebody trys to help and all you lot do is take the P***:rolleyes:

sm_counsell 26-01-2010 14:01

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Thanks Jaysay,
Perhaps they didn't understand. Still I've done my duty!!
rgds

Pamperqueen 29-01-2010 08:36

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Many member's of my husbands family have this. Loads of them were going to the doctors with the classic symptoms for years and had no joy getting a diagnosis. It was only when relatives in Ireland were diagnosed that the penny dropped. They are much more thorough about screening for it over there.

sm_counsell 29-01-2010 16:54

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Thanks Pamperqueen, at least someone other than Jaysay has got the message.
The condition, if found out in time is easily controllable and I just wanted to warn English people about just how common it is but that it's difficult to diagnose because the symptoms are common to many other illnesses.
Hope the info. might be useful to someone in the future
Rgds

AngleIron 29-01-2010 20:44

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Used to suffer from that myself until i swallowed a magnet!...lol

MargaretR 29-01-2010 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 781946)
Next time you go for a check-up or if you are feeling tired all the time, ask your doc. to control the iron ( simple blood test). The most common genetic disorder around (identified in 1996) iron overload, is extremely common in northern Europeans and people of Irish and Welsh descent, but many doctors don't know much about it., and as the treatment doesn't involve a lot of money, the pharmaceutical companies tend to keep quiet!!
I found out by chance(thanks to the Internet) and have managed to put cousins in the UK on guard so I thought I'd pass on info through this great forum
No cure, but all you have to do is give blood and keep a check on blood levels.

If anyone ie interested see: www.haemochromatosis.org/uk

I am surprised that you say 'no cure'.
This probably means that western medicine has not yet produced an expensive drug for it yet.

Chelation of heavy metals from the body is a well known practice in alternative medicine.

webglynne 30-01-2010 00:12

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Is the fact that to play games ,for one, a certain number of times a day got anything with the fact there is so much rubbishing of posts?

They actually got nothin to say?

accyman 30-01-2010 01:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 783586)
Is the fact that to play games ,for one, a certain number of times a day got anything with the fact there is so much rubbishing of posts?

They actually got nothin to say?

nah its more that not everyone is doom and gloom , in fear of dying from things such as bacon butties, masterbation, government conspiraceys,hidden chemicals in foods, "not many people know this" kind of facts and imigrants spreading disease

take it from someone with experience you only need to be very worried about your health when you either have blood pouring out your arse , severe sudden loss of weight or a rash in your private area that just wont go away or develop sudden urges to throw your self under passing cars.

personaly i think the balance between doom and gloom and humour is evenly balanced here and if you dont like it there is the option of sodding off which is your right to use at any time should you tire of us folk who appreciate a bit of a laugh :)

on a side note i would like to add that my advice about ironing printed t-shirts is a valid peice of information which i have no doubt will be appreciated by many a young man leaving home for the first time as us men are pretty damn useless on our first outing in life without mum to do our ironing and if i have at least saved one persons much adored t-shirt from tehir favourite bands concert i consider my good deed for teh year done

jaysay 30-01-2010 09:01

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The only thing is accyman, when somebody puts on valid information its not being doom and gloom, I'll have the crack with anybody but not on health grounds, except my own:D

Less 30-01-2010 14:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 783615)
The only thing is accyman, when somebody puts on valid information its not being doom and gloom, I'll have the crack with anybody but not on health grounds, except my own:D

Isn't it strange though how because we know your mind occasionally works we can make allowances for you, we know you. However we keep getting these people that come on know nowt' about the site or it's history yet they insist we should behave their way or else we are wrong?

Why, Oh, why, do they do this? If they don't want to join in on our level why do they try to lift us above the primeval swamp that we are happy in, just because they know nothing and want to prove it?

:confused:

jaysay 30-01-2010 14:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 783725)
Isn't it strange though how because we know your mind occasionally works we can make allowances for you, we know you. However we keep getting these people that come on know nowt' about the site or it's history yet they insist we should behave their way or else we are wrong?

Why, Oh, why, do they do this? If they don't want to join in on our level why do they try to lift us above the primeval swamp that we are happy in, just because they know nothing and want to prove it?

:confused:

I see where your coming from Less, but I thought she was putting genuine concerns forward with a view to help others that's all, sorry if that offended:o

Less 30-01-2010 14:56

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 783747)
I see where your coming from Less, but I thought she was putting genuine concerns forward with a view to help others that's all, sorry if that offended:o

No offence taken, if anything we were at crossed purposes, I thought you were referring to this post.


Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 783586)
Is the fact that to play games ,for one, a certain number of times a day got anything with the fact there is so much rubbishing of posts?

They actually got nothin to say?

Just shows how intelligent it was, it helped to confuse me. How was it for you?
:D

jaysay 30-01-2010 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 783750)
No offence taken, if anything we were at crossed purposes, I thought you were referring to this post


Just shows how intelligent it was, it helped to confuse me. How was it for you?
:D

:confused::confused::confused::confused:Must have ben asleep when I saw that Less, its definately one from Mancies book of 4am posts is that:D

webglynne 30-01-2010 15:19

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Less

Have you spoken to anyone about your complexes?

cashman 30-01-2010 15:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 783763)
Less

Have you spoken to anyone about your complexes?

Does anyone actually speak to you..........fer long? just wondered.:rolleyes:

Less 30-01-2010 15:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by webglynne (Post 783763)
Less

Have you spoken to anyone about your complexes?

Why pray tell would I need to, or even have time to talk to anyone about such thing's?

I'm always on here batting against weirdo's like you.


The thread is about iron let's get back to it, it's innuendo's and any related puns that may occur instead of you trying to score points in one-upmanship from the hole you dug for yourself the first day you came on to attack the rest of us.
:D

jaysay 30-01-2010 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 783769)
Why pray tell would I need to, or even have time to talk to anyone about such thing's?

I'm always on here batting against weirdo's like you.


The thread is about iron let's get back to it, it's innuendo's and any related puns that may occur instead of you trying to score points in one-upmanship from the hole you dug for yourself the first day you came on to attack the rest of us.
:D

Looks like another chalked up on the Less scoreboard:D

Benipete 31-01-2010 09:13

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Well just to be on the safe side I have elbowed the liver and the Guinness,do I need to worry about the lead oxide in the water pipes?:confused::confused:

MargaretR 31-01-2010 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 783970)
do I need to worry about the lead oxide in the water pipes?:confused::confused:

...simple answer......yes

PS I will not give you a diatribe about what to do about it
...if you really want to know.....find out yourself

jaysay 31-01-2010 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 783979)
...simple answer......yes

PS I will not give you a diatribe about what to do about it
...if you really want to know.....find out yourself

That's a little out of character Margaret:D

MargaretR 31-01-2010 10:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 783984)
That's a little out of character Margaret:D

I have got past the stage of hoping to help people on here.
Everyone needs to find their own answers to solve their own problems.
If they can't be bothered..........tough

sm_counsell 31-01-2010 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 783555)
I am surprised that you say 'no cure'.
This probably means that western medicine has not yet produced an expensive drug for it yet.

Chelation of heavy metals from the body is a well known practice in alternative medicine.

There's no cure Margaret because it is hereditary.
Chelation is used for other types of anemia but for HH (hereditary Hemochromatosis) as its known, all you need to do is donate blood and get checked out regularly.

I'm sorry if some on the forum think this is doom and gloom but as I've lost quite a few relatives in the past before they reached 60 and it was probably due to this condition, I just wanted to make it known to others.
Perhaps I should keep quiet the next time!
Regards

MargaretR 31-01-2010 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sm_counsell (Post 784071)
There's no cure Margaret because it is hereditary.
Chelation is used for other types of anemia but for HH (hereditary Hemochromatosis) as its known, all you need to do is donate blood and get checked out regularly.

I'm sorry if some on the forum think this is doom and gloom but as I've lost quite a few relatives in the past before they reached 60 and it was probably due to this condition, I just wanted to make it known to others.
Perhaps I should keep quiet the next time!
Regards

I appreciate your info/good intentions and am sure some others do.
Do not be deterred by snidey comments from some people
just put them on your ignore list;)


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