Travellers and fly-tipping
 

There is a suggestion from former Labour Leader, Councillor Ian Ormerod that Travellers should have their vehicles clamped as method of deterrent. I agree. Though I don’t think councillor Ormerod’s suggestion is tough enough.



Some of you will no doubt recall that a couple of months ago we were all delighted at the news that Coucillor Doug Heyes – and his wife, oddly enough – had been appointed as the boroughs new CRIME CZARS !

Speaking personally, I was so delighted I could hardly stop laughing.

Anyway, one half of the ‘Dynamic Duo’ have been in action on this very issue. I know that you are all now holding your breath in anticipation of some earth shatteringly dramatic pronouncement. Councillor Heyes Said: “We really have had our problems over the years with travellers. But until a strategy comes forward that incorporates all the partners involved, we will just have to be on our guard.”


That’s it Doug. Go get em! I’ll bet all those nasty traveller types, sorry, ‘partners’ are really shaking in their caravans now! I’ll bet they will certainly think twice before fly-tipping on our beauty spots now that our crime czars are on the case and have decided to …. do absolutely nothing at all!

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If the vehicles are clamped then how the hell are they supposed to move on?!

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Maybe they'll just saw off the clamps?


"............until a strategy comes forward............." Am I alone here in thinking that they are the ones who have been appointed to come up with strategies?

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Hehe...probably will do Willow....it just seems like a very bizarre and ineffectual 'deterent'!

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If they get enough of them they will make a fortune at the scrappers when they weigh them in!

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Are these two so called crime czars getting any money in expences for this work that they are not doing. ( i wonder )

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Well you don't suppose that they do it out of the goodness of their hearts do you? Taking all the flak that these two are going to generate is bound to come at a price.
The thing that puzzles me is why his wife has been nominated too? Oh, I get it now, Double Expenses!

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You have to laugh Bob, either that or have a bloody good cry at the way this town is going.

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It must take an awful lot of effort this waiting for a strategy to come forward you know.:rolleyes:

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The`ve moved to the access road for Rake Head Quarry, dumped a load of tarmac at the bottom and branches and foliage from their gardening activites at the top, though I believe this part is covered by CCTV. Why do they not have to tax their vans and wagons?

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A few years ago some travellers, to be politically correct, (I prefer the term Gypo's), set up camp illegally on land between Express Gifts and Emerson & Renwick. Eventaully when they were moved on, the police were in evidence to enforce the eviction order. When it was pointed out to the law enforcement officers that a number of the travellers vehicles were without tax, they turned a blind eye to the fact. So much for upholding the letter of the law. :(

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>>Why do they not have to tax their vans and wagons?<<



Probably for the same reason that they do not pay Council Tax or Income Tax or VAT.

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yeh why do they not have to tax their vans or other band wagons

av neva heard of tht one b4 but i bet u now who ever see a van or other motor they have we will walk past n chek to c if they got a tax disc on coz i sure will chek why have one rule for them and another for us..... they use the roads more than we do if they alwayz on the move so they sud pay it just like anyone else

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I think didicoy is a better description:
Definitions
didicoy
diddicoy
didicoi
noun

• didicoys, diddicoys, didicois
  1. An itinerant tinker or scrap dealer, not a true gypsy

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They call them didicoys down sarff, didnt they build something for them in the 70s between Huncoat and Clayton, I seem to remember going the back way and they had hard standings and water/electric hookups, seemed a nice place for yer average Gypo.

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yea basf its still there just off whinny hill.

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There has been fly-tipping at the bottom of Foxhill Bank (turn off Union Road where the Bank / Royal Pub use to be), for the last 15 years or more that I am aware of. The police, the council and just about everybody else has tried to stop it...all without success.

3 years ago I witnessed a Gypo's van offloading and then torching what looked like an old roof from a wooden garage. I chased after the van and even took it's number, then phoned our men in blue only to be told that they would look into it (fat chance). I went back to the now blazing timber wreck, only to hear the dying cry's of a dog that had been tied-up inside the structure before it had been (purposly) set alight. I and my friend couldn't get near enough to try and drag the dog out of the inferno. So the poor animal died in agony...burnt alive!

I phoned the police again...but they said they were too busy to attend the scene. So I phoned up the RSPCA...to their honour...they came in about 15 minutes. By this time the blaze was only smoldering, but the burnt corpse of the dog was visible.

I left in disgused after giving my details to the RSPCA guy. Several weeks later I received a call from the Accy Police asking if I could confirm the vehicle number, which I did. I asked if they had got the culprits, and they told me that a "Traveller" had reported his vehicle stolen 10 minutes after I rang the Police. So they had not charged anybody. I told Mr. Plod that I maybe able to identify a couple of the culprits. He said that as I lived in Germany he didn't think it would be cost effective to bring me over to Accy to identify a dog killer.

So much for justice!!!

CRIME CZARS........more like jobs for the boys!!!

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Incidentally, I notice that the travellers have been on the approach road to Snipe Rake/ Kings Highway for three weeks now.

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I noticed them there Bob when we were passing the other week.

Police not in my good books right now either but it's a long story.

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The Observer reports that the torrential rain of last week, which came flooding down Kings Highway, has washed the travellers camped there away. Is this the Strategy that our Crime Czars were expecting would 'come forward'?

Wow Doug! Divine intervention. We never expected that you were so well-connected! Ha, Moses, eat your heart out!

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So, the great unwashed copped for a dousing, eh? It's a pity a few bars of carbolic didn't come down in that particular deluge.

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Suddenly I like the rain :)

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Acrylic-Biff, my terrier, and I have just been for a drag up that way (although who was dragging whom is open to question), just to have a look. The wreckage left behind is apalling. there is refuse of every sort scattered all over the place. And this presumably after HBC have 'cleaned up' !

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Would that be the same sort of cleaning up that leaves my front garden full of other people's refuse on bin day?

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Yeah, makes you wonder why they bother in the first place.

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Well it looks as though our esteemed Crime Czar's policy of wait-and-see has not bourne the expected solution. The travellers are back at the bottom of Kings Highway. More mess, more inconvenience, more rubbish, more council handwringing and precisley NO ACTION to put an end to it.