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lancsdave 23-02-2010 15:24

Telegrapgh Headline - 4000 New Jobs In Hyndburn
 
Thats what the headline says outside the newsagents.

Am I to assume it's 3,999 planners for the town centre and one bloke with a shovel ?:rolleyes:

shillelagh 23-02-2010 15:30

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wrong dave .. :D:D:D

A NEW ‘high-tech’ business park employing 4,000 people is set to be built beside the M65.
Regeneration leaders want to turn greenfield land on the Oswaldtwistle and Blackburn border, next to junction six of the M65, into a £5million industrial hub occupied by advanced manufacturing firms.
They hope the site, to be built over five years, will attract blue-chip employers to East Lancashire and create 4,000 quality jobs.
The plan, which will be partly bankrolled with public money, has been backed by business leaders.
Bosses from Regenerate Pennine Lancashire, the publicly-funded body made up of councillors and town hall officers, want the sprawling business park to go on the area between Accrington Road, Whitebirk Road and the M65 eastbound exit slip-road.

High-tech East Lancs business park plans unveiled (From Lancashire Telegraph)

well i always thought greenfield sites were supposed to stay green ..

lancsdave 23-02-2010 15:38

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 790952)
wrong dave .. :D:D:D

A NEW ‘high-tech’ business park employing 4,000 people is set to be built beside the M65.
Regeneration leaders want to turn greenfield land on the Oswaldtwistle and Blackburn border, next to junction six of the M65, into a £5million industrial hub occupied by advanced manufacturing firms.
They hope the site, to be built over five years, will attract blue-chip employers to East Lancashire and create 4,000 quality jobs.
The plan, which will be partly bankrolled with public money, has been backed by business leaders.
Bosses from Regenerate Pennine Lancashire, the publicly-funded body made up of councillors and town hall officers, want the sprawling business park to go on the area between Accrington Road, Whitebirk Road and the M65 eastbound exit slip-road.

High-tech East Lancs business park plans unveiled (From Lancashire Telegraph)

well i always thought greenfield sites were supposed to stay green ..


It's only in the planning stage yet then, could end up anywhere north of Watford :D

Benipete 23-02-2010 16:28

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Sounds like a lot of money for a chip shop whatever the colour.:confused::D:D

Neil 23-02-2010 17:35

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Originally Posted by shillelagh (Post 790952)
well i always thought greenfield sites were supposed to stay green ..

We are not exactly short of green bits around here are we.
We however short of jobs so it sounds good to me.

Tealeaf 23-02-2010 21:55

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Whatever happened to the 'green' industrial park that was supposed to be being built by Foxhill Bank?

cashman 23-02-2010 21:59

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 791154)
Whatever happened to the 'green' industrial park that was supposed to be being built by Foxhill Bank?

Probably went "Tits up"like the "Zeri" complex.:D:rolleyes:

Tealeaf 23-02-2010 22:10

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 791156)
Probably went "Tits up"like the "Zeri" complex.:D:rolleyes:

What's the odds then this will go the same way? Anyway, even it was to go ahead, where the hell are they getting the figure of 4000 from? We will probably find that what goes up will be distribution depots for the likes of Tesco and ASDA; fully automated storage systems with the only employees being a few office staff and drivers who in any case will come from all over the country.

I can't exactly see many manufacturing facilities there, employing rows and rows of women to stick togeather computer parts. Whitebirk used to have that (think of Mullards) but these days that's all done in China. The sums just don't add up.

cashman 23-02-2010 22:12

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 791160)
What's the odds then this will go the same way? Anyway, even it was to go ahead, where the hell are they getting the figure of 4000 from? We will probably find that what goes up will be distribution depots for the likes of Tesco and ASDA; fully automated storage systems with the only employees being a few office staff and drivers who in any case will come from all over the country.

I can't exactly see many manufacturing facilities there, employing rows and rows of women to stick togeather computer parts. Whitebirk used to have that (think of Mullards) but these days that's all done in China. The sums just don't add up.

Agree but they say- God loves a tryer.

Tealeaf 23-02-2010 22:23

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The location certainly makes a good transpotation hub, with it's proximity to the M65, so I can understand that part. Some of the warehouses they stick up these days are the size of Wembley Stadium. Maybe if they build one on spec, rather than to order, we could stick a football pitch and some seats in there and Stanley could relocate to play games on nights such as this.

By the way, I'm hoping to get up there tomorrow...what's the weather like now?

Neil 23-02-2010 22:45

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 791164)
By the way, I'm hoping to get up there tomorrow...what's the weather like now?

We have 6' snow drifts, better stop where you are :rolleyes::D


We had a bit of snow but its nothing.

steeljack 24-02-2010 01:39

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seem to remember hearing/reading a while ago that all the area west of the old Whitebirk power station and south of the old Gt. Harwood railway line , west as far a Whilpshire rd (New Inns) and Blackburn Rd as the southern boundary had been included in a study for possible change of use and future industrial expansion
maybe accy web user Ken Moss (Rishton) has a comment

Less 24-02-2010 10:24

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Not wishing to sound pessimistic, (for a change), but what do you reckon are the chances that IF this goes ahead, we will attract 'real' businesses?

Express gifts was supposed to give us 'real' jobs got plenty of grants and runs on a skeleton permanent staff with temporary workers doing the bulk of the work ready to be laid off at a moments notice.
In fact the temp's got hit on the head so many times with the brown stuff, I believe the only way they can get staff is to import Poles and others that didn't make the grade as plumbers to fill these lucrative positions.

What's the chances that we end up attracting the very last of the cigarette makers to put a state of the art production line in and get it up and running the day before a surprise Government announcement that production of all tobacco products is made illegal.

Or perhaps a really large canning factory just as the do-gooders finally bully Supermarkets into banning the sales of all alcoholic products from their shelves.

I really do hope this isn't another 'pie in the sky', dreamsville idea and at last we get some decent companies, (Engineering would be nice, get a few apprenticeships going), I don't think I'll hold my breath though.
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garinda 24-02-2010 10:28

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 791261)
Or perhaps a really large canning factory

The man from Del Monte say's 'Where is dis white berk Hind born?'

Ken Moss 24-02-2010 11:27

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Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 791199)
seem to remember hearing/reading a while ago that all the area west of the old Whitebirk power station and south of the old Gt. Harwood railway line , west as far a Whilpshire rd (New Inns) and Blackburn Rd as the southern boundary had been included in a study for possible change of use and future industrial expansion
maybe accy web user Ken Moss (Rishton) has a comment

It's a sore point in Rishton as it is perceived as further crepitation of the Blackburn boundary into Hyndburn. The green land provides an attractive buffer zone that residents are not keen to see filled up with more industrial units when there are plenty of empty units elsewhere. Also, the money generated from changing the use of the land is not guaranteed to be used to improve Rishton facilities as it should be, by rights.

As it stands, the M65 infrastructure is deemed unfit and requires a third lane to be constructed. Technically, until that happens there will be no development of land at junction 6 although I remain unconvinced that this will stop them. We have been told categorically at a public meeting that no amount of complaining from the residents could halt the project.

Acrylic-bob 24-02-2010 15:54

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Well doesn't that just say it all about how things are run in this country. Say goodbye to our green and pleasant land and hello to the new industrial wasteland composed of tin sheds erected at public expense to gratify the ego's and pipe dreams of an unelected and unaccountable quangocracy.

shillelagh 24-02-2010 16:09

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Dont i know it acrylic bob .. two pictures to compare .. the second one took on 31st March 2009, the first one took at 5.05pm today ...

Acrylic-bob 24-02-2010 16:35

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And to hear him talk Graham Jones, our Labour PPC, advocates yet more investment in schemes like this. BTW where is the photograph taken from?

shillelagh 24-02-2010 17:30

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its in rising bridge acrylic bob .. and i took them from my bedroom window ..

This has been done by LCC when it was labour controlled .. and the planning permission went to rossendale council (conservative run) .. a conservative councillor said it was ever so exciting .. and voted for it. Our local councillors one of which on the planning committee .. one walked out after declaring an interest as he'd been lobbied by local residents .. the other sat there and kept her mouth shut.

No one in rising bridge wanted this ... we were quite happy with what it was .. a bit of land in the middle of the village where a bonfire could be held quite safely once a year ..

Oh and what is actually going up there is 9 offices .. they started building in july last year ... and according to what ive been told .. 1 has been let, and 2 possibles .. so who's going to fill the rest .. ok its my bugbear!!!

Acrylic-bob 24-02-2010 19:00

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Don't feel you need to apologise for being annoyed. I think politicians should all be open to UN-election.

shillelagh 24-02-2010 19:08

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thing is theyre building these offices ... and just down the bypass on carrs theres a building full of offices to rent ..and have been for ages .. we dont need em.. and now theyve wasted a pile of money on this .. oh and according to the planning permission theyre allowed to be open from 7.30am - 11pm but theyre not allowed to be call centres ....

Neil 24-02-2010 23:02

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Whats wrong with call centres I wonder?

garinda 25-02-2010 00:33

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 791634)
Whats wrong with call centres I wonder?

The Monsoon season sometimes causes the power supply to short circuit.

Ken Moss 25-02-2010 09:52

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 791160)
Anyway, even it was to go ahead, where the hell are they getting the figure of 4000 from?

I can't exactly see many manufacturing facilities there, employing rows and rows of women to stick togeather computer parts. Whitebirk used to have that (think of Mullards) but these days that's all done in China. The sums just don't add up.

That's precisely the question I've been asking. The last time I heard, it was an estimate just shy of 450 jobs.

Blackburn can't even fill up the units it already has so the interest in getting control of Hyndburn land sounds like empire-building rather than a desire to create jobs. Improvements to existing industrial areas might be better and if they're keen on Rishton then we have a large derelict industrial complex at the other end of the village that they're welcome to regenerate.

However, they still have the small matter of the M65 to consider.

shillelagh 25-02-2010 17:19

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they've said the offices here hopefully provide 150 jobs :rolleyes:.. it has 64 car parking spaces and space for 30 bikes ... so where are they all going to park? wheres the visitors to the offices going to park? :rolleyes:

Neil 25-02-2010 17:55

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They should be making full use of public transport, walking and car sharing Jen - think green not lazy :p

duggie 25-02-2010 18:13

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4,000 jobs, are they creating a new council, only local authorities can employ so many people, I used to work for the largest employer in clitheroe in the 1990's and at their peak they employed 650 and covered an area twice this size. pehaps they are going to employ audley range !!!

lancsdave 25-02-2010 18:17

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss (Post 791755)
That's precisely the question I've been asking. The last time I heard, it was an estimate just shy of 450 jobs.

They count every job possible. 3448 council employees to process the paper work, one man to build it and another to run the bacon butty van for the man building it :)

Ken Moss 25-02-2010 19:33

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Originally Posted by lancsdave (Post 791950)
They count every job possible. 3448 council employees to process the paper work, one man to build it and another to run the bacon butty van for the man building it :)

Nice try, Dave. You forgot about the four men leaning on spades watching the one guy digging.


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