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steeljack 01-03-2010 17:59

Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Anyone know why the Ribble valley had so many asylums in one area , seem to remember they were originally built for the wounded after WW1 ( sure Retlaw will know the history about this). Just seems to be a lot of beds for one area considering there were other places as well , think there was also a place near Longridge as well (Wittingham sp?)

Neil 01-03-2010 18:30

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Its because they could not afford to build them in Hyndburn but needed loads of spaces for Hyndburn residents :p :D

Its the same reason Chaigley Manor is in the Ribble Valley

wadey 01-03-2010 18:30

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I always thought they were built by the big cities like Manchester and Salford

wadey 01-03-2010 18:34

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A sixth County Asylum for Lancashire, at Whalley, was commenced in 1912, at an estimated cost of £375,000.
Whalley Asylum

wadey 01-03-2010 18:37

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The National Archives | Search the archives | Hospital Records| Details

flashy 01-03-2010 18:39

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just been talking to the strange man next door and from what he knows Brockhall opened in 1913 and was originally built for drunkards, it opened up as just one building (which was to become the Admin block)

Langho Coloney was originally owned by Manchester and was for epileptics

Whittingham was a mental hospital too

and mi dad says that there was also one across from the Petre Arms at one time

wadey 01-03-2010 18:42

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"The Lancashire Asylums Board was established in 1891, by the county council and all fifteen of the county boroughs. Ten years later the Lancashire Inebriates Acts Board was established, but the County Borough of Oldham did not participate. The Inebriates Acts Board built a reformatory at Brockhall (in the Ribble Valley, but its function gradually changed and by 1920 it was a certified institution for mental defectives. 1925 saw the dissolution of the Inebriates Acts Board and the Asylums Board became the Lancashire Mental Hospitals Board."
Index of Lunatic Asylums and Mental Hospitals

flashy 01-03-2010 18:42

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its no wonder i'm off my head really, my dad worked at Brockhall, my mum did, my auntie did, 2 of my uncles and my dads cousin did

wadey 01-03-2010 18:44

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Calderstones Hospital
Mitton Road, Whalley, Clitheroe, BB7 9PE
Opened 1915: by Lancashire Asylums Board, but used during world war one as Queen Mary's Military Hospital
Dual Pavilion
1921 Calderstones Certified Institution for Mental Defectives
Or Whalley Asylum (Mental Defectives)
Calderstones Hospital (by 1929 - 1993) In 1971 it had an average of 1,710 beds available and 1,631 resident patients.

Brockhall Hospital (See Lancashire Asylums Board) was approximately two miles from Calderstones Hospital in the Ribble Valley. It opened as The Lancashire Inebriate Reformatory in 1904. It became Brockhall Hospital for Mental Defectives in 1915, Brockhall Hospital for the Mentally Subnormal in 1959, and Brockhall Hospital for Mentally Handicapped People in 1974. In 1971 it had an average of 1,844 beds available and 1,800 resident patients. Steve Wright worked there as a nurse from 1981 until 1985. During that time there where still children at Brockhall and approximately 1000 people lived there in total. It became Brockhall Hospital for People with Learning Disabilities in 1991, but closed in 1992.
As Above

Tealeaf 01-03-2010 19:58

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Remember that up until 1974, Lancashire (administrative) County encompassed an awful lot of what is now Greater Manchester, Merseyside and the Southern Lakes; remember also there was no NHS at the time these facilities were established. Health management relied upon local hospital boards across the region which nevertheless followed national guidelines on the treatment of 'mental defectives'. the policy was to place these unfortunate individuals in what was then regarded as state of the art facilities in semi-rural environments outside the muck and grime of the major urban conurbations.

Having said that, I worked in Calderstones back in the summer of '78; It was just after the place hit headline news because some of it's female residents had been put on the pill, whether they liked it or not. I do recall that there were a number of older female residents - well into their 70's & '80's - who were only there because in the 1920's they had dared to have a child outside of wedlock. After all those years, they had become so institutionalised; it would have become a crime to let them out into the wider community.

Neil 01-03-2010 20:36

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I still think my reply is the most accurate so far :D

turkishdelight 01-03-2010 21:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack (Post 793327)
Anyone know why the Ribble valley had so many asylums in one area , seem to remember they were originally built for the wounded after WW1 ( sure Retlaw will know the history about this). Just seems to be a lot of beds for one area considering there were other places as well , think there was also a place near Longridge as well (Wittingham sp?)

Whitingham is still there named Guild Lodge.

wadey 01-03-2010 21:59

Re: Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Greaves Hall on the road into Southport was a huge place

jaysay 02-03-2010 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 793341)
its no wonder i'm off my head really, my dad worked at Brockhall, my mum did, my auntie did, 2 of my uncles and my dads cousin did

Thats why your as nutty as a fruit cake shaz:D in the nicest possible way of course;)

jaysay 02-03-2010 09:27

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I actually served my time as a joiner near to Calderstones and actually worked with a number of male nurses who worked on their days of on our site, and before you start shut it Neil:D:p

groove 02-03-2010 11:23

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It was also widely accepted that the fresh,countryside air was beneficial to mental illness.Ribble Valley was a very logical location in that respect,and i presume there was a "not in my back yard" mentality regarding such places.Broadmoor is in a similar rural location.

martin01 05-04-2010 18:28

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I worked part-time (evenings) at Calderstones as a male nurse (obviously) in 1967 +-
I can tell you a few horror stories about my time there - under the heading of '5 cc of paraldyhyde' the common medicinal dosage of the time administered in the 'upper / outer quadrant buttock! ( I was responsible for 'socking' it to the poor buggers - under superior instruction of course)
On a lighter note I really enjoyed the TATA pie and mushy peas served up at the 'Dog Inn' washed down with a pint of the best and a game of russian billiards (the table with the mushrooms on for the unninitiated) all this as a part of my journey back to brockhall from clayton c.1965.
The 'Dog' still going?
Martin

acertun 08-05-2010 15:23

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Did your overalls button up the back jay say lol

wadey 08-05-2010 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 803752)
I worked part-time (evenings) at Calderstones as a male nurse (obviously) in 1967 +-
I can tell you a few horror stories about my time there - under the heading of '5 cc of paraldyhyde' the common medicinal dosage of the time administered in the 'upper / outer quadrant buttock! ( I was responsible for 'socking' it to the poor buggers - under superior instruction of course)
On a lighter note I really enjoyed the TATA pie and mushy peas served up at the 'Dog Inn' washed down with a pint of the best and a game of russian billiards (the table with the mushrooms on for the unninitiated) all this as a part of my journey back to brockhall from clayton c.1965.
The 'Dog' still going?
Martin

"The Dog Inn at Whalley" ?

martin01 09-05-2010 08:35

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aye - there were 4 pubs opposite to each other

jaysay 09-05-2010 09:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by acertun (Post 813330)
Did your overalls button up the back jay say lol

No, but I'm sure your head does:thefinger

brockshank5 27-05-2010 22:57

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I've worked in several houses in the community in Tameside with ex calderstones and brockhall patients in the past ten years, many of them now sadly deceased. Here's some names;
Henry Birch, Brenton Owens, Ronnie Labert, Frances Sage, Charlie White, Percy Rolfe, Richard Gurney, Alan Jackson, Kenny Evans, Latour Henry, David Jackson, Clive Renshaw. the older chaps were very institutionalised obviously and struggled to adapt and probably missed the community on the wards.
I think now with private companies taking over most of the contracts to run community care houses things seem to be going backwards.

jaysay 28-05-2010 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 813505)
aye - there were 4 pubs opposite to each other

Can you remember the names martin, Whalley Arms, The Dog, De Lacey, can't think of the other to save my life and I served my time in Whalley too :confused:

cashman 28-05-2010 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818642)
and I served my time in Whalley too :confused:

sorry shoulda known ya were ex-calderstones.:D

martin01 28-05-2010 09:58

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mornin Jaysay
got me thinkin too
as you came down the brew from Gt Harwood into Whalley there were 2 pubs occupied adjacent corners as you came into the T junction, the one on the left I think was the Whalley Arms, the other?? - across the road - the Dog and a little further down almost opposite the bus station - de Lacey - ( around the corner was the Starlight Club? casino and revue bar?)
Last time I was in Whalley had steak pudding, chips and mushy peas form chippy next to Whalley arms -- scoffed them on a park bench:)
there was another pub (a bit bleak I recall) halfway up the hill leading out of Whalley going towards Langho - ??
It'll come to me - if it dont come to you first
cheers

Wynonie Harris 28-05-2010 10:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 818660)
there was another pub (a bit bleak I recall) halfway up the hill leading out of Whalley going towards Langho - ??
It'll come to me - if it dont come to you first
cheers

Possibly, the Judge Walmsley, Martin?

cashman 28-05-2010 10:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 818664)
Possibly, the Judge Walmsley, Martin?

it was the judge, was the other in centre the SWAN?

martin01 28-05-2010 10:24

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Wyn/Cash (win cash??)
spot on on both counts - now I can get on with my studies
tx for that
Martin

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:24

Re: Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 818664)
Possibly, the Judge Walmsley, Martin?

Na Wyn thats on the way out of Whalley up the hill towards Blackburn

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818667)
it was the judge, was the other in centre the SWAN?

Thats it Cashy the Swan, should have known a seasoned boozer like you (reformed:D) would have known:D

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818654)
sorry shoulda known ya were ex-calderstones.:D

Cheeky git:D

martin01 28-05-2010 10:28

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Jaysay --------
the way to Blackburn is also the way to Langho cummin aat a Whalley - unless they,ve built a new road going in the opposite way:(

cashman 28-05-2010 10:28

Re: Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 81866)
there was another pub (a bit bleak I recall) halfway up the hill leading out of Whalley going towards Langho - ??
It'll come to me - if it dont come to you first
cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818672)
Na Wyn thats on the way out of Whalley up the hill towards Blackburn

when ya get the hang of reading,ya will see wyn is correct.:D

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 818660)
mornin Jaysay
got me thinkin too
as you came down the brew from Gt Harwood into Whalley there were 2 pubs occupied adjacent corners as you came into the T junction, the one on the left I think was the Whalley Arms, the other?? - across the road - the Dog and a little further down almost opposite the bus station - de Lacey - ( around the corner was the Starlight Club? casino and revue bar?)
Last time I was in Whalley had steak pudding, chips and mushy peas form chippy next to Whalley arms -- scoffed them on a park bench:)
there was another pub (a bit bleak I recall) halfway up the hill leading out of Whalley going towards Langho - ??
It'll come to me - if it dont come to you first
cheers

Can't remember that club being the Starlight Club Martin, was the Ace Of Spades, Starlight was in Little Harwood Blackburn

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 818676)
Jaysay --------
the way to Blackburn is also the way to Langho cummin aat a Whalley - unless they,ve built a new road going in the opposite way:(

Judge Walmsley was in Lango or just short

jaysay 28-05-2010 10:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818677)
when ya get the hang of reading,ya will see wyn is correct.:D

I'm only up to the Cat Sat On the Mat cashy give me time:D

martin01 28-05-2010 10:33

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you're right Jay - the ace of hearts - I mean spades-- there were some right goings on there in the 60's

cashman 28-05-2010 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818679)
Judge Walmsley was in Lango or just short

Just short was in Billington, had workmates lived on pasterlands drive n was there local.:)

martin01 28-05-2010 10:37

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yes again, the Judge was further on - the one I'm talking about was literally 2 minutes walk over the bridge ( still going toward Langho AND Blackburn:)

cashman 28-05-2010 10:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 818685)
yes again, the Judge was further on - the one I'm talking about was literally 2 minutes walk over the bridge ( still going toward Langho AND Blackburn:)

Martin 2/3 mins walk oer the bridge is the "Judge" on right hand side goin towards Langho.:)

jaysay 28-05-2010 11:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818682)
Just short was in Billington, had workmates lived on pasterlands drive n was there local.:)

Well Billington's just short of Lango:D pasturlands cardboard jungle, Derek Barnes built them, seeing his handy work glad he failed in his attempts to by the Rovers:D

martin01 28-05-2010 11:21

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Oh, are you sure? Cashie
I don't suppose you could just nip down there quickly (you're only round corner) just to confirm?

cashman 28-05-2010 11:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martin01 (Post 818697)
Oh, are you sure? Cashie
I don't suppose you could just nip down there quickly (you're only round corner) just to confirm?

no need used the pub quite frequently in years past.;)

cashman 28-05-2010 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818693)
Well Billington's just short of Lango:D pasturlands cardboard jungle, Derek Barnes built them, seeing his handy work glad he failed in his attempts to by the Rovers:D

yep them houses were crap built, many who lived yon used to think they were somebody,including me mates, i took great pleasure in reminding em they weren't.:D think they were built around 1960, as was 63 when i used to go down.

jaysay 28-05-2010 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 818704)
yep them houses were crap built, many who lived yon used to think they were somebody,including me mates, i took great pleasure in reminding em they weren't.:D think they were built around 1960, as was 63 when i used to go down.

I started work down Whalley in 1963 cashy and they were still building on pasturlands then, sortley after he opened a new site in lango itself

cashman 28-05-2010 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 818726)
I started work down Whalley in 1963 cashy and they were still building on pasturlands then, sortley after he opened a new site in lango itself

yeh they were, twas early 63 when i started goin down yon, so they musta started before that, cos were quite a few finished n lived in then.:)

Eric 29-05-2010 08:25

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Just noticed this. Donald Vaughan and I got summer jobs at Calderstones, back in '66. The work was ... interesting. Got to lay out a corpse one time ... fun stuff. There were some weird, sadistic characters working there. As far as I remember, most of the money I earned went across the bars of all those pubs.

Bob Dobson 29-05-2010 08:38

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When I was a policeman, my most unusual case was at whittingham mental Hospital. I got a call over the radio -"any patrol to attend Whittingham Hospital - report of an escapee" When I got there, I discovered it was far mnore serious. Before escaping, a male patient had broken into the hospital's laundry and had raped two female laundry assitants.

The headlines in that night's Lancashire Evening Post read

'Nut Screws Washers and Bolts.'

On a serious note....there were also privately-run mental hospitals in the Ribble Valley (Billington-Brockhall )area. I think they were all there because there was plenty of land and the countryside was seen as suitable for inducing a calm mental attitude.

jaysay 29-05-2010 09:19

Re: Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 818901)
Just noticed this. Donald Vaughan and I got summer jobs at Calderstones, back in '66. The work was ... interesting. Got to lay out a corpse one time ... fun stuff. There were some weird, sadistic characters working there. As far as I remember, most of the money I earned went across the bars of all those pubs.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: Are you really sure you and Donald WORKED there Eric;)

jaysay 29-05-2010 09:24

Re: Calderstones, Brockhall , Langho Colony
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dobson (Post 818904)
When I was a policeman, my most unusual case was at whittingham mental Hospital. I got a call over the radio -"any patrol to attend Whittingham Hospital - report of an escapee" When I got there, I discovered it was far mnore serious. Before escaping, a male patient had broken into the hospital's laundry and had raped two female laundry assitants.

The headlines in that night's Lancashire Evening Post read

'Nut Screws Washers and Bolts.'

On a serious note....there were also privately-run mental hospitals in the Ribble Valley (Billington-Brockhall )area. I think they were all there because there was plenty of land and the countryside was seen as suitable for inducing a calm mental attitude.

That reminds me of the time this naked blond escapee from Calderstones came running through the building site followed by six male nurses, the last one carrying a bucket of sand, I asked what the bucket of sand was for, he shrugged his shoulders and said, its my handicap I caught her last month:D

kestrelx 19-07-2011 16:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wadey (Post 793342)
Calderstones Hospital
Mitton Road, Whalley, Clitheroe, BB7 9PE
Opened 1915: by Lancashire Asylums Board, but used during world war one as Queen Mary's Military Hospital
Dual Pavilion
1921 Calderstones Certified Institution for Mental Defectives
Or Whalley Asylum (Mental Defectives)
Calderstones Hospital (by 1929 - 1993) In 1971 it had an average of 1,710 beds available and 1,631 resident patients.

Brockhall Hospital (See Lancashire Asylums Board) was approximately two miles from Calderstones Hospital in the Ribble Valley. It opened as The Lancashire Inebriate Reformatory in 1904. It became Brockhall Hospital for Mental Defectives in 1915, Brockhall Hospital for the Mentally Subnormal in 1959, and Brockhall Hospital for Mentally Handicapped People in 1974. In 1971 it had an average of 1,844 beds available and 1,800 resident patients. Steve Wright worked there as a nurse from 1981 until 1985. During that time there where still children at Brockhall and approximately 1000 people lived there in total. It became Brockhall Hospital for People with Learning Disabilities in 1991, but closed in 1992.
As Above

Interesting information! Which Steve Wright worked there? Not the Radio One DJ?

martin01 19-07-2011 18:32

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you will probably find that most of the inmates - now escapees - are on the accy website - they go under various seudonymes?
check out the music section and I will reveal all


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